[brent13a]

At what point does it stop?

'Endemic' doesn't begin to describe/define the problem. It's my opinion that a libertarian mindset of "legalize everything, it will eventually level out - because we don't need any oversight" is just wrong on multiple levels. I agree that there is a "big brother" effect at work with our gov't and I'll be right there championing individual rights with anyone else. HOWEVER, when so many parts of our society are born genetically devoid of responsibility who do we turn to to endorse and enforce those responsibilities for the good of the other parts of society that SHOULD NOT be brought down because of the irresponsible? Should it be the federal gov't? Should it be the state gov't? Whom are we left with a the end of the day to protect the irresponsible from US and THEMSELVES?

[r9etb]

It's my opinion that a libertarian mindset of "legalize everything, it will eventually level out - because we don't need any oversight" is just wrong on multiple levels.

At root, that mindset makes bad behavior the basis on which society is built, and dismisses any attempts for good people to define the conditions of where they live.

It's the logical endpoint of a selfish and infantile philosophy that in effect promotes rights without responsibility.

[The Working Man]

That’s an interesting question about being genetically devoid of responsibility. Is it your contention that they are genetically that way and therefore don’t need to take responsibility for their actions, in fact are totally incapable of doing so?

If so then take it a few steps further if they aren’t responsible for ANYTHING that they do then at what point is it the responsibility of those in our society who are genetically capable of taking responsibility for their own actions. And what should be the actions of those who accept responsibility on those who genetically can’t.

It is a terrifying thought that those who can be responsible citizens would have to cull those who can’t from the gene pool. I don’t mean killing them but removing the capacity for passing those defective genes onto future generations.

What are your thoughts on that? Do you still want to contend that they are genetically incapable of accepting responsibility or maybe that they have not been made to by those who had the primary responsibility of raising them to maturity.

And yes I DO believe that there are such people born who are genetically incapable of accepting responsibility for their actions. We used to say that they were born without a soul. Today we use various diagnosis of psychosis, schizophrenia or personality disorders.

In any case I am glad that you do ask such questions. This forum allows us to discuss them and I am grateful for that.