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In Florida, Virtual Classrooms With No Teachers
NYSlimes ^ | 1/18/11 | Laura Herrera

Posted on 01/18/2011 7:52:53 AM PST by markomalley

MIAMI — On the first day of her senior year at North Miami Beach Senior High School, Naomi Baptiste expected to be greeted by a teacher when she walked into her precalculus class.

“All there were were computers in the class,” said Naomi, who walked into a room of confused students. “We found out that over the summer they signed us up for these courses.”

Naomi is one of over 7,000 students in Miami-Dade County Public Schools enrolled in a program in which core subjects are taken using computers in a classroom with no teacher. A “facilitator” is in the room to make sure students progress. That person also deals with any technical problems.

These virtual classrooms, called e-learning labs, were put in place last August as a result of Florida’s Class Size Reduction Amendment, passed in 2002. The amendment limits the number of students allowed in classrooms, but not in virtual labs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: education; fl; florida; publicschools
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1 posted on 01/18/2011 7:52:54 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Government.

Schools.

Are.

Merely.

Prison.

Preparatory.

Institutions.

2 posted on 01/18/2011 7:57:18 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: markomalley
Ain't gonna work for math.....

Mike

3 posted on 01/18/2011 7:58:14 AM PST by MichaelP (It's the end of the world as they know it, and I'm so glad!)
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To: markomalley
It's not for everyone, but I think this is an important part of the future of public education. Find the best calculus teacher you can. Script out some great lessons. Film the lessons. After that, your cost to present calculus to HS students drops to nearly nothing. You filmed it once. You're good for the next 20 or 30 years. Roll the tape!

That's a simplistic description, but in the age of YouTube and DVDs, there is no longer a need to put a lecturer in front of 30 kids in a room for 6 hours a day. It is not effective -- and certainly not cost effective.

To paraphrase the Buggles: "Video killed the Teachers Union".

4 posted on 01/18/2011 7:59:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: MichaelP
Ain't gonna work for math.....

Bet me. My daughter learned calculus at 12 without a teacher or an online class.

5 posted on 01/18/2011 8:06:45 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: markomalley

I remember classes in junior high in the Tampa Bay area over 50 years ago where the lecture was presented to a class of probably 300 on multiple black and white televisions.

We had to take a lot of notes, but it was very effective. I kind of liked it.


6 posted on 01/18/2011 8:07:57 AM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: markomalley

These people are shooting themselves in the foot (feet? — whatever). Parents are going to wonder why they send kids to school and pay all those taxes if they are going to sit in front of a computer all day. You can do that at home and take whatever courses you want. (It’s called homeschooling, and I hear it’s very effective.)

Some kids might like it, though, if they don’t particularly care to interact with a teacher or their classmates so I can see the benefit there, but why trudge down to the local school when you can take classes in the privacy of your own home?


7 posted on 01/18/2011 8:08:15 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: markomalley
Since pathetic public schools are turning out illiterate, air-headed, ill-prepared skulls full of mush by the millions, education enhanced by computer lab training can't be any worse, can it?

Employees across the fruited plane are learning new things every day via computer while on the job....and I don't think it's stunting their personalities.

The unsaid story behind this article is the fact that the teachers' unions are going to have a cow over these new concepts. They won't like being even partially replaced by a computer. They'll strike and shut schools down over this issue sometime in the future as the lab concept develops and expands....wait and see.

Leni

8 posted on 01/18/2011 8:09:23 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: markomalley
I am sure that this is not for everyone, but it is working for many homeschoolers. The Clark County School District in Nevada has such a program for homeschoolers: http://www.odysseyk12.org/high_school/about_us/hs_home.php
http://www.odysseyk12.org/high_school/about_us/faq.php
9 posted on 01/18/2011 8:09:56 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: MichaelP

>>Ain’t gonna work for math.....<<

It does for my kids.
I know nothing about math, but with a good program, they are two years ahead (my 10 year old is doing Algebra 1).

Saxon Algebra with their D.I.V.E. video and “Teacher” program have gotten them flying through. Now I’m not saying that every computer program can do this (when we were on Switched on Schoolhouse, I was begging the FReeper Math people for help every day), but Saxon has found a way to get it done.

Just the other day, my older girl said, “This is so easy!”. She is two lessons away from Geometry. If they are using Saxon, it will work.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 8:10:57 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: markomalley

You can get your high school math and then some online now:

http://www.khanacademy.org/

Why even have a brick and mortar classroom for learning?


11 posted on 01/18/2011 8:14:35 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Turn off the EPA, FCC, Federal Dept. of Education, ...)
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To: MichaelP

MichaelP,

Whatever you do, don’t take Carrie_Okie’s bet. Both his daughters are sharp as tacks, and neither was abused by teh pooblik skool system, IIRC.

PS Neither one is a genius, either, so what worked for them can will work for any student willing to learn.

PPS You can send the money you would have bet to me as a thank you for all the embarrassment I saved you.

;-)


12 posted on 01/18/2011 8:18:13 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: netmilsmom
Maybe I should have tried it.. The old fashioned way was hell!

Mike

13 posted on 01/18/2011 8:18:40 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: MinuteGal

I hereby humbly suggest that every school shut by a teacher strike be immediately sold.

I believe that would keep the union extortionists at bay.


14 posted on 01/18/2011 8:20:41 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: goldi

Children go to pub(l)ic school to be beaten up or molested by a teacher.


15 posted on 01/18/2011 8:21:55 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: netmilsmom

Is Saxon good? No lib agenda? No questions like - Tommy’s dad has two extra daddies he met at a club. If one daddy leaves - how many daddies does Tommy have?


16 posted on 01/18/2011 8:24:12 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: MichaelP
It will absolutely work for math if the teaching program is well written.

There is very little subject matter, that can't be taught using a well written program. And taught faster and more efficiently to the level of the individual child instead of the slowest kid in the class.

My kids learned almost everything through 3rd grade math prior to Kindergarten from a computer and had advanced to 6th grade math by the 2nd grade again thanks to well written computer games like the "Adventure" series.

And I learned almost all of high school algebra and geometry in the 6th grade because a teacher excused me from the regular class and sat me and a friend at a table and gave us problems to work at our own pace.

The only things that teachers are really needed for are the more touchy feelly things. Social interaction, leading group discussions, etc. Everything else should be computer driving and go at the pace of the individual student.

A good program can do things like adjust the teaching method for the way the child learns, use multiple teaching methods if the child isn't picking it up, test and reinforce the teaching where the child appears weak.

If it can be reduced to book form, it can pretty much be taught by a computer.

17 posted on 01/18/2011 8:31:51 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: ClearCase_guy

When I was in high school we had a couple of History classes in an auditorium with TV screens. We did have a teacher, but it was more like a large college class. In elementary school we took spanish in a class like that, too.


18 posted on 01/18/2011 8:33:04 AM PST by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: DannyTN

What is the “Adventure” series?


19 posted on 01/18/2011 8:36:17 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: markomalley
Why not just shut down half of the universities in the US? What is the point of creating dimwits with worthless BAs for $40K a year?

The academy is a bloated tapeworm in our economic organism. Lawyers, tenured...we cannot afford to support these parasites.

20 posted on 01/18/2011 8:37:55 AM PST by Mamzelle
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