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Bondi, Aronberg Aim to Shut Down 'Pill Mills' (Florida Bipartisan Effort)
Sunshine News ^ | 1/6/11 | Kenric Ward

Posted on 01/19/2011 7:22:48 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Calling Florida "the drug supplier for the rest of the country," former state Sen. Dave Aronberg is leading Attorney General Pam Bondi's fight against "pill mills."

Aronberg, a Greenacres Democrat, was selected by Bondi, a Republican, based on his long-running battle against the abuse of prescription drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at sunshinestatenews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bondi; drugs; fl; florida; society
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To: SoFloFreeper
Oh great. I thought I liked this woman, now I have second thoughts. Who the hell is she to get between a Dr. and the patient?

It's because of people like her that Doctors are afraid to prescribe adequate pain medication to their patients. As if dealing with the DEA weren't enough, now they have to worry about this chick sticking her nose into what's supposed to be a private, confidential relationship.

Talk about not getting it.

21 posted on 01/19/2011 11:15:39 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: rarestia
It has to stop.

Why? Who cares if some idiots kill themselves with prescription medicines. I don't. I'd rather have them getting their fix from a pharmacy than some pusher on the street.

What we have here is another Nanny State RINO. If it weren't for the fact that she has a nice rack most here wouldn't be giving her a second thought. And rightly so, apparently.

22 posted on 01/19/2011 11:19:30 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: org.whodat

It’s not just old people who have problems. Ever met anyone who was in a car accident and permanently damaged bones? How about folks with severe arthritis and bone degeneration or other bone problems?

Did you know that the pain doc is only allowed to write the scrip for one month? That means you have to go every month and ‘pay a copay’ every month.

They are punishing patients more than they are preventing crime.

How many died from drunk drivers in Florida Ms Bondi? What are you doing about that? How about a tax on alcohol just like cigarettes? Both are vices that aren’t good but I’ve never heard anyone lose their composure and kill someone by crashing their car into them because they smoked too much tobacco. Ooops went off topic....

Fight the crime, don’t punish the patients.


23 posted on 01/19/2011 11:21:29 AM PST by tutstar
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To: Nightshift

gnip


24 posted on 01/19/2011 11:22:09 AM PST by tutstar
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To: tutstar

Thanks, it is no use to point out how it really is, they don’t care that people are mistreated, it’s just like the gun controls freaks. Arrest the druggies leave the other people along.


25 posted on 01/19/2011 11:33:21 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Lurker

This isn’t about people legally obtaining prescription pain medication. This is about people faking illness to get a script for pain medication and then turning around to sell that medication at $100 a pill for massive profit. This stuff is legalized cocaine. Narcotics are narcotics whether sold by a pharmacy or on a ghetto street corner.

This was going on way before Bondi. I understand where you’re coming from with the Nanny State stuff, but this is not about freedom to put whatever you want into your body. These drugs are going from a chronic faker into the hands of other addicts and causing major problems.

My brother is alive, thank God, and through the power of the church and NA, he’s been able to get his life back on track. When you see someone who was your best friend turn into an addled lunatic pawning mom’s jewelry for a fix, you understand the gravity of the problem.


26 posted on 01/19/2011 11:50:23 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
When you see someone who was your best friend turn into an addled lunatic pawning mom’s jewelry for a fix, you understand the gravity of the problem.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

Legalize the crap. All of it. Sell it in five pound bags at Safeway to anyone over the age of majority at market prices. Get the gangs out of the business and the Government back into the Constitutional prison designed for it.

I'm sick of paying to babysit these people and I'm really sick of watching the Government trash the Constitution and destroy liberty in order to protect these people from themselves.

I already have to show more ID to buy cold medicine than I do to cast a vote in a Federal election. I'm fed up with it. Let them kill themselves. I no longer care.

Your 'cure' is worse than the disease.

27 posted on 01/19/2011 12:23:54 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Ya know, Lurker, I wasn’t going to respond to your post. I threw up my hands and just said, “Forget it.”

However, I want to thank you. I went back and read a bunch of my posts in drug-related threads, and I’ve stated the exact same argument as you numerous times. In this case I was letting my personal emotions cloud the fact that I really hate government getting involved in our lives.

It would take a few million people to die from overdoses before the general public pretty much eschewed the drug of choice in those ODs. You’d have your outliers, your “that can’t happen to me” crowd, but in general, people won’t look to those drugs for a quick fix.

I believe in survival of the fittest. I believe that we have the right to pursue happiness but that it’s not a God-given right. We have to want to be happy to achieve that happiness, and, being a recovering alcoholic and former pot smoker, I can say that no drug has ever made me happier than I am when I’m sober, healthy, active, and motivated.

All of that aside, I agree with you that this regulatory garbage has got to stop. Unfortunately due to the unconstitutional DEA and fearmongers in the media, the drug war will never wind down, only get worse. Until we can return this country to the Constitution and let personal responsibility reign once again, we’ll continue to have those in politics and the media who say that we’re calloused and cruel to let these people kill themselves. In my book, however, let them waste their lives away as long as I’m not paying for their rehab or their habit.

My sincerest apologies for arguing. The personal nature of my experience clouded my thinking. Thank you for keeping me grounded in fact and truth.


28 posted on 01/19/2011 2:49:23 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Lurker

Or, we could allow the states to work out their OWN problems...like “patients” coming in from out of state to “doctors” who prescribe “medicine” to them.

I happen to believe states have the right to regulate businesses within their borders—it is fundamental to the concept of federalism.


29 posted on 01/20/2011 6:17:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: rarestia
First of all please allow me to send my most sincere thanks for the polite and well reasoned response.

I've had a lot of experience with addicts myself. My ex managed to get herself addicted to cocaine a couple decades ago. It was about the ugliest thing I've ever seen. And I have a couple of recovering alcoholics in my immediate family. I've seen the struggle they go through daily so I completely empathize.

I call my attitude, proposed 'solution', whatever you want to call it "National Tough Love Drug Policy". I figure it would take about 6 months to a year for all the hardcore idiots to kill themselves off with the legal, purer, market price poison. I'd be willing to pay a bit extra for the cleanup, but not a single dime to subsidize their habits.

Once the majority of them have either kicked or died and the streets are swept clean of the corpses, the rest of us adults can go on about our lives and maybe, just maybe, we can take one small step towards casting the Federal Government back into the Constitutional prison our Fathers designed for it.

My sincerest apologies for arguing.

No apology is necessary. This place was built for arguing. LOL.

I can say that no drug has ever made me happier than I am when I’m sober, healthy, active, and motivated.

That's very true. And we're all going to need to be those things to face whats coming. I have no doubt about that.

You have my sincerest best wishes for a continued recovery. One day at a time my friend, one day at a time.

Regards,

L

30 posted on 01/20/2011 7:05:50 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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