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Green Follies Escalate in the Face of Failure (CFLs are a dud in the real world)
American Thinker ^ | 01/20/2011 | Ed Lasky

Posted on 01/20/2011 6:53:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Those widely heralded compact fluorescent bulbs (CFLs) turn out to be a bit of dud in the real world.

For years, we have seen traditional light bulbs vanishing from shelves of hardware stores and Home Depots across America.  They have been replaced by those screw-shaped things that bespeak the future -- a future of dull lights, money flowing overseas, Americans jobs being terminated, and promised energy savings going up in smoke.

From the Wall Street Journal:

California's utilities are spending $548 million over seven years to subsidize consumer purchases of compact fluorescent lamps. But the benefits are turning out to be less than expected.

One reason is that bulbs have gotten so cheap that Californians buy more than they need and sock them away for future use. Another reason is that the bulbs are burning out faster than expected.

California led the way, as it often does with damaging fads, especially those beloved by environmentalists and green energy schemers.  The Golden State has been wonderful for job creation -- in Arizona and New Mexico, as businesses flee from high energy costs and move to states with sensible energy -- and tax, and regulatory -- policies.

No state has done more to promote compact fluorescent lamps than California. On Jan. 1, the state began phasing out sales of incandescent bulbs, one year ahead of the rest of the nation. A federal law that takes effect in January 2012 requires a 28% improvement in lighting efficiency for conventional bulbs in standard wattages. Compact fluorescent lamps are the logical substitute for traditional incandescent light bulbs, which won't be available in stores after 2014.

California utilities have used ratepayer funds to subsidize sales of more than 100 million of the bulbs since 2006.  Most of them are made in China. It is part of a comprehensive state effort to use energy-efficiency techniques as a substitute for power production. Subsidized bulbs cost an average of $1.30 in California versus $4 for bulbs not carrying utility subsidies.

Anxious to see what ratepayers got for their money, state utility regulators have devoted millions of dollars in the past three years for evaluation reports and field studies. What California has learned, in a nutshell, is that it is hard to accurately predict and tricky to measure energy savings.  It is also difficult to design incentive plans that reward-but don't overly reward-utilities for their promotional efforts.There are additional problems since it seems the state may have over-rewarded utilities with taxpayer money to promote a program that has failed to live up to the green dreams of its proponents.

There are additional problems, since it seems the state may have over-rewarded utilities with taxpayer money to promote a program that has failed to live up to the green dreams of its proponents.

In the real world, these buggers burn out at a fast rate. If I may indulge the reader with my own personal tale: I bought into the dream, mostly because I thought I would save money and energy.  Also, I am lazy, and I got tired of getting up on the ladder or slippery surfaces to reach bulbs that needed to be replaced.  I thought screwing these wonder-bulbs in as substitutes would save me time and some nagging from everyone in the house.  Well...the nagging never stopped, since everyone complains about the quality of the light and how long it takes for these things to power up to their full brightness (a brightness that is a bit unnatural).  The studies in California show that these bulbs do not work well in recessed lighting and in bathrooms.  This is bad news for me, since most of our lights are recessed.

So once again, we see how government elites and green dreamers have pushed through programs -- imposing them on us -- that have proven to be boondoggles and failures.  The landscapes of Europe (and the balance sheets of its governments) are pockmarked with solar and wind power plants that are woefully inefficient at anything other than sucking taxpayers' monies down the drain.  Spain is wobbly in no small measure because of the billions spent on solar power ventures.  Germany's chancellor, Angela Merkel, is considering prolonging the operation of Germany's nuclear power plants because that is the only affordable way to keep Germans supplied with power (the plants were slated to be closed, with their replacements being ultra-expensive solar and wind power plants).

But back to the bulbs and the dimwitted ones who saddled us with these screwy things.  As Investors Business Daily (and all my family members) noted, the quality of light from CFLs is poor:

Despite governments' effort to market them, CFLs are not necessarily better. Tests conducted by the London Telegraph found that using a single lamp to illuminate a room, an 11-watt CFL produced only 58% of the illumination of an equivalent 60-watt incandescent -- even after a 10-minute warm-up that consumers have found necessary for CFLs to reach their full brightness.

Lack of light isn't the only drawback. CFLs apparently are so dangerous, the European Commission has to warn consumers of the environmental hazards they pose. If one breaks, consumers are advised to air out rooms and avoid using vacuum cleaners to prevent exposure to the mercury in the bulbs.

Compounding the problem is that these bulbs are usually made in China.  The old-fashioned kind that we grew up with are being phased out, and the very last American company making them turned off its lights and closed last year -- a victim of environmentalism run amok.  Hundreds of Americans, many in their 50s, were laid off with no place to go (I wrote a requiem on the closing).  The saga of the old-fashioned light bulbs is not just a nostalgic tale of buggy whips and horse-drawn carriages being rendered extinct by progress.  They were killed by government policy.

The new House may change that policy; one of the Republican proponents of CFLs, Congressman Fred Upton, has -- pardon the pun -- seen the light, and from his new post as chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, he may do what few politicians ever do: undo the damage they have helped to cause.

China is going gangbusters business selling us all sort of gimcracks and doodads that are supposed to save us megawatts of energy.  In the real world -- outside Washington, D.C., outside the centers of crony capitalism (since General Electric and other politically connected corporations feed off green energy programs) -- billions of taxpayer dollars are being exported to China in return for cool and futuristic-looking curlicues that are giant, toxic wastes of money.  

I think windmills are nice-looking -- at least in Holland, they are.  But they don't suit everyone's tastes.  The Kennedys and other mega-wealthy residents of Cape Cod have been in high dungeon for years over the Cape Wind project to place windmills in a windy area offshore.  The actual eyeprint would be quite small, but why should they endure anything but perfection as they (including Senator John Kerry) take their yachts out for a spin?

The bluebloods have been successful in killing the project.

Mere commoners have also complained about the environmental and health effects of having windmills near their homes or workplaces.  But they did not have their hands on the tillers of power and could not stop these projects from being built near them.  The Not in My Backyard (NIMBY) dynamic failed in the face of utilities, venture capitalists, and government officials plopping these projects around.  These are often in rural areas, and we know that elites, led by Barack Obama, don't have much respect or concern for hayseeds who live outside Washington, New York, Los Angeles, and other bastions of sophisticated civilization.  There are not many voters and very few donors to care about in those neighborhoods.

Government mandates regarding percentages of utility power that must come from renewables worsen the problem since this is just one more means of subsidizing grossly inefficient ways to generate power.  They would never be built without governments finagling the rules and balance sheets to rig the game to keep them alive.  Without these incentives, they would die.  Those vast solar power plantations and windmill farms will be the 21st century's industrial ghost towns.

The federal and state governments have been giving away hundreds of millions of dollars to get American companies to invest in green energy plants here in America.  In reality, all too often, these companies take the money and run...to China.  The products are then made there.  Again, American money (much of it deriving from the "stimulus" program) is flowing to China to save and create jobs over there.

The Chinese are laughing all the way to their banks.  So are the venture capitalists and green promoters who have benefited from their campaign donations to Democrats and the Democratic Party.

Will Barack Obama do his labor allies another solid favor during his meeting with Chinese President Hu Jintao?  Will Obama bring up complaints that China is violating World Trade Organization rules by unfairly subsidizing manufacturers of green energy products at the expense of union laborers here in America?

Why ruin a good party and upset the environmental theologians Barack Obama considers experts and geniuses?

Ed Lasky is news editor of American Thinker.


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KEYWORDS: cfl; environmentalist; green; lightbulb
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To: SeeSac
I see a market for adapters...
61 posted on 01/21/2011 6:40:32 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Hardastarboard
That's because I eat it as fast as I stockpile it, LOL!
62 posted on 01/21/2011 7:44:04 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: muawiyah
Consequentially it is virtually impossible to gauge what incandescent light usage was and it's equally impossible to determine what benefit any switch to CFLs for home lighting could possibly deliver.

"Energy Management" has been a snake-oil scam for decades. "Green and sustainable" is the FedGov subsidized continuation of the scam.

63 posted on 01/21/2011 8:07:38 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: KarlInOhio
A friend put in a set of 5 6500 Kelvin daylight CFLs in his dining room. They are painfully bright.

Luminosity (in candelas or foot-candles), power consumption (wattage), and color (Kelvin number) are all separate concepts.

The color of traditional incandescent lighting is about 3300 Kelvin; halogen lamps at full power are more like 3800. The hottest halogen Osram and Sylvania Silverstar headlight bulbs are right at 4100K, just below the 4200K lower end of the high-intensity discharge (Sylvania's name: Xenarc) arc-type lamps, which go up beyond 10000K (violet and ultra-violet).

Those dining-room CFL's are supposedly "daylight" lamps and probably totally inappropriate for dining. A morgue would be more like it.

Then there's the problem of steadiness of the light source. Halogen bulbs on AC current and fluorescents tend to flicker invisibly at 50Hz or 60Hz, which causes eyestrain as the iris tries to follow the flickers and adjust. We're unaware of this losing battle, until we develop eyestrain, fatigue, and presbyopia.

I'm not sure how LED lamps perform on AC house power. I suspect they'd produce the same eyestrain as halogens.

The very best reading light is halogen bulbs on straight DC current. Incandescents are a good compromise, since their tungsten filaments heat and cool more slowly than halogen filaments, suppressing the flicker effect. My den uses recessed floodlights and spots (the spots look better); I'm stockpiling them. Ozero can sue me.

64 posted on 01/21/2011 9:51:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
The new bulbs don’t work very well outside in the cold. They also don’t last long, and the produce low light levels. Ain’t progress wonderful?

My experience with bulbs has been that the fluorescents last longer than incandescents. I replaced incandescent floodlights (50w) in my back yard with 15- or 20-w fluorescent floods (U-shaped fluorescents, old style, wrapped in a big plastic reflector) and got about 7 years from the latter.

My best bulb has been a thick-walled halogen Sylvania Capsylite which I installed on a post lamp with a photoelectric eye, on at dusk, off at dawn. The photocell switch reduced the output of the bulb from its normal light output for a 90w halogen to about what you'd expect from a 40w incandescent, stretch 50w or so. The bulb lasted 11 years.

65 posted on 01/21/2011 10:00:31 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Erasmus
Indoors, I find the 6500K lamps horrendously blue. In the dining room, they probably make the food look like unappetizing crap too.

I suspect even the "soft white" versions have a lot of UV and violet output, much moreso than incandescents, and that's the source of the "icky look". It's blue light.

66 posted on 01/21/2011 10:04:29 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

They put CFL’s in our storage freezer at work as part of our “green initiative.” It never got brighter than a dim glow and you needed to bring a flashlight to find anything.


67 posted on 01/21/2011 11:41:26 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: kevkrom
CFLs simply don’t work in my house. There’s only one room in the entire place that doesn’t have some sort of “problem”, such as an enclosed fixture (dome lights), recessed lights, and/or dimmer switches. All of which I am warned don’t play nice with CFLs.

CFLs will work in enclosed fixtures. If you are concerned about the warning, get one designed without the warning. CFLs can be bought for use with dimmers. I put regular CFLs in recessed lighting fixtures and had no problems.

Aside from that, I agree that the light quality is much poorer.

Tests using live subjects showed that they prefered CFLs over incandescents.

Now we’re finding out that they don’t last nearly as long as were promised.

By a good one and they last. Besides, I have had MANY incandescents that never came close to the rating on the box.

68 posted on 01/22/2011 12:30:37 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: lentulusgracchus
Halogen bulbs on AC current and fluorescents tend to flicker invisibly at 50Hz or 60Hz, which causes eyestrain as the iris tries to follow the flickers and adjust.

Obviously you have NO idea how flourescent bulbs operate. Go google and read the description of the operation of the ballast. You will see that they DO NOT have a 60hz component, it is more like 40Khz!

69 posted on 01/22/2011 12:37:39 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: lentulusgracchus
The color of traditional incandescent lighting is about 3300 Kelvin; halogen lamps at full power are more like 3800. The hottest halogen Osram and Sylvania Silverstar headlight bulbs are right at 4100K, just below the 4200K lower end of the high-intensity discharge (Sylvania's name: Xenarc) arc-type lamps, which go up beyond 10000K (violet and ultra-violet).

Typical halogen lamps are about 3000k. I don't understand why you say 4100k is hotter?

70 posted on 01/22/2011 12:47:57 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac
Typical halogen lamps are about 3000k. I don't understand why you say 4100k is hotter?

I'm referring to the color in Kelvins, not to temperature in degrees Kelvin. They're different.

71 posted on 01/22/2011 6:59:11 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: SeeSac

If you have better knowledge, please post up. Link, please.


72 posted on 01/22/2011 7:00:43 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: SeeSac
Obviously you have NO idea how flourescent bulbs operate.

Oh, and here's my put-up on this business of flickering fluorescents:
http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays/1988-76.pdf

[From the Introduction]

Introduction

An intermittent light no longer appears to flicker when the frequency exceeds some limit commonly referred to as a flicker 'fusion' threshold. When the light is bright and diffuse and stimulates a large retinal area this threshold can be as high as 90 Hz but is rarely higher(l). The 'fusion' threshold cannot, however, be taken as a limit above which intermittent light has the same effect as continuous light. First, Greenhouse and colleagues(2) have recorded human electroretinogram responses to intermittent light at frequencies higher than 100 Hz. Second, Brindley(3) demonstrated psychophysically that the nervous system resolves intermittent light at frequencies at least as high as 125 Hz. He stimulated the retina electrically so as to produce the appearance of flashes of light (phosphenes). When he increased the frequency of electrical stimulation sufficiently the phosphenes appeared continuous. Brindley combined electrical stimulation and stimulation from flickering light simultaneously, at frequencies at which both forms of stimulation appeared continuous when presented on their own. When the frequencies of the combined electrical and visual stimulation were slightly different observers reported seeing the beat between the two. The beat was perceptible when the visual stimulation had a frequency as high as 125 Hz indicating that, at some level, the visual system was resolving the stimulation at this frequency.

Fluorescent lamps operating on an AC supply emit light that pulsates in brightness(4). Twice with each cycle of the electricity supply (e.g. at 100 Hz) the light output varies between a maximum and about 60% of that maximum, depending on the decay rates (persistence) of the phosphors and the range of wavelengths measured. The light output also varies slightly at half this frequency (i.e. at the frequency of the AC supply) partly because the dark spaces in front of the cathode alternate between the ends of the tube, and partly because the electrodes may burn unevenly, and as the tube ages an asymmetrical discharge can result.

--Paper by Wilkins, Nimmo-Smith, Slater, and Bedocs, rev. version 1989. (full cite at link)

There you are. As I was saying. Without a special ballast, US fluorescents would (did) flicker at 120 Hz, the house-power cycle rate X 2 (not 60Hz, my bad, good ding), but then at 60Hz later on, as they age (oops). If they were on 410Hz AC service, like some military applications, there'd be less of an eyestrain problem, as I've pointed out -- but they'd still flicker. More links available.

73 posted on 01/22/2011 8:06:39 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
There you are. As I was saying. Without a special ballast, US fluorescents would (did) flicker at 120 Hz,

But the ALL have 'special ballasts. You dissed CFLs because they have 60 hz flicker. I posted that they operate at 40Khz. There is NO perceivable flicker since they all have electronic ballasts.

74 posted on 01/23/2011 3:00:49 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: lentulusgracchus
Typical halogen lamps are about 3000k. I don't understand why you say 4100k is hotter?

I'm referring to the color in Kelvins, not to temperature in degrees Kelvin. They're different.

They are the same.

75 posted on 01/23/2011 3:03:25 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeekAndFind

bfl


76 posted on 01/23/2011 3:18:38 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Oh, and here's my put-up on this business of flickering fluorescents: http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays/1988-76.pdf

Ho Ho Ho .... Your source is from 1989!!!!!

77 posted on 01/23/2011 5:22:48 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac
Oh, how could I miss that? Physics changed since 1989!

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78 posted on 01/23/2011 6:38:57 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: SeeSac
You dissed CFLs because they have 60 hz flicker.

Read my post again for comprehension. I wasn't talking specifically about CFL's, I was talking about fluorescents, of which CFL's are a subset.

You say they don't flicker; but you haven't proved they don't. You talk about ballasts with a higher cycle rate -- but do they not flicker at all, or do they flicker "imperceptibly", the way fluorescents on 410-cycle AC would?

Other people are posting info, you're playing games with posters.

79 posted on 01/23/2011 6:49:12 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: SeeSac
[Me] I'm referring to the color in Kelvins, not to temperature in degrees Kelvin. They're different.

[You, being a PITA] They are the same.

Not.

See below, found online. (Which you could have done.)

Color Temperature (Kelvins) and Color Rendition Index (CRI)

The color of light is determined by its wavelength. The two ratings that are commonly used to describe the color properties of lamps are color temperature and color rendition (CRI). Color temperature is the color appearance of the light produced by a bulb and the color appearance of the bulb itself. It is measured on a Kelvin scale (K). A bulb with a low color temperature will have a "warm" appearance (red, orange, or yellow). Conversely, a bulb with a high color temperature will have a "cool" appearance (blue or blue-white). Color rendition is a measure of how the lamp influences the color appearance of the objects that are being illuminated. It represents the ability of a lamp to render color accurately and to show color shade variations more clearly. High color rendition allows us to see objects, as we would expect them to appear under natural sunlight. Color rendition is measured via a complex process on the Color Rendition Index scale ranging in value from 0 to 100.

To put it in slightly different terms, the color temperature of light refers to the temperature to which one would have to heat a "black body" source to produce light of similar spectral characteristics. Low color temperature implies warmer (more yellow/red) light while high color temperature implies a colder (more blue) light. The standard unit for color temperature is Kelvin (k). (The Kelvin unit is the basis of all temperature measurement, starting with 0 k at the absolute zero temperature. The "size" of one Kelvin is the same as that of one degree Celsius, and is defined as the fraction 1/273.16 of the thermodynamic temperature of the triple point of water, which positions 0° Celsius at 273.16 k.)

It shouldn't be forgotten that a color temperature value, though expressed as a single number, doesn't describe a simple property. In reality, it only summarizes the spectral properties of a light source. Two light sources with the same light color can differ widely in quality, e.g. when one of them has a continuous spectrum, while the other just emits light in a few narrow bands of the spectrum. Some of the qualitative aspects of such a spectrum can be summarized by means of its color rendering index (CRI). Therefore the higher the CRI, the higher the “quality” of the light produced. CRI is measured on a scale from 0 to 100. A 100 CRI light bulb does not exist. Our HID bulbs range from 60 to 90 CRI depending on the bulb's manufactor and the salt mixture inside the bulb.

Blogsource:

http://tinyurl.com/63x6bxm

Black-body radiation is not what we are discussing in these illumination sources. See the discussion at link about color rendition indices, and the fact that common light sources do not usually have full spectra.

80 posted on 01/23/2011 7:44:12 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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