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China's new stealth fighter may use US technology
Associated Press ^ | 01/23/2011 | SLOBODAN LEKIC & DUSAN STOJANOVIC

Posted on 01/23/2011 5:02:45 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

China's new stealth fighter may use US technology

SLOBODAN LEKIC and DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press

BRUSSELS – Chinese officials recently unveiled a new, high-tech stealth fighter that could pose a significant threat to American air superiority — and some of its technology, it turns out, may well have come from the U.S. itself.

Balkan military officials and other experts have told The Associated Press that in all probability the Chinese gleaned some of their technological know-how from an American F-117 Nighthawk that was shot down over Serbia in 1999.

Nighthawks were the world's first stealth fighters, planes that were very hard for radar to detect. But on March 27, 1999, during NATO's aerial bombing of Serbia in the Kosovo war, a Serbian anti-aircraft missile shot one of the Nighthawks down. The pilot ejected and was rescued.

It was the first time one of the much-touted "invisible" fighters had ever been hit. The Pentagon believed a combination of clever tactics and sheer luck had allowed a Soviet-built SA-3 missile to bring down the jet.

The wreckage was strewn over a wide area of flat farmlands, and civilians collected the parts — some the size of small cars — as souvenirs.

"At the time, our intelligence reports told of Chinese agents crisscrossing the region where the F-117 disintegrated, buying up parts of the plane from local farmers," says Adm. Davor Domazet-Loso, Croatia's military chief of staff during the Kosovo war.

"We believe the Chinese used those materials to gain an insight into secret stealth technologies ... and to reverse-engineer them," Domazet-Loso said in a telephone interview.

A senior Serbian military official

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KEYWORDS: aerospace; balkans; china; f117; kosovo; serbia
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To: mvpel

Form follows function, and there are only so many engineering solutions to stealth requirements. The F-117 is old, obsolete stealth technology, and everyone knows it. Which is why the “current” (or immediate past) generation(s) of stealth shaping (F-22, YF-23, PAK-FA/T-50, F-35, CALF, “J-20”) bear significant similarities to one another.

The “J-20” looks exactly like the CALF, just scaled up. The PAK-FA/T-50 looks like a hybridization of F-22, F-35, YF-23 and Su-27 engineering.


21 posted on 01/23/2011 6:37:11 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Colorado Doug

if they use our tech we have a much better chance of countering it.


22 posted on 01/23/2011 6:43:13 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: omega4179

Oh, so this is how they’re going to package it. Clintoon in consort with his buddy BERNIE SCHWARTZ of the Loral Corp. SOLD our missile guidance system components (amongst other things) to the Chicoms. But we idiots out here in middle America are to dumb...


23 posted on 01/23/2011 7:14:52 AM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: omega4179

We have to be the dumbest nation on Earth.


24 posted on 01/23/2011 7:29:56 AM PST by Rappini
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To: Walkingfeather

um I dont believe so. I think I remember we “Accidentally” bombed the chinese embassy in serbia about a week or so later. Rumor was they had this stealth fighter stored there and we took care of it then.”


Holy cow, I think you got something here! The ‘we got the map wrong’ never convinced me so this makes a lot of sense. And CIA, no doubt, had many spies in Serbia back then to know about the Chinese.


25 posted on 01/23/2011 7:31:30 AM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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To: omega4179

Thanks a LOT, Mr. Clinton! Your many DIRECT technology transfers to the Red Chinese weren’t ENOUGH, apparently.


26 posted on 01/23/2011 7:54:19 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: tanknetter
Sure, form follows function, but don't kid yourself into thinking that espionage was not a key and fundamental part of the J-20 development program.

(CBS) "60 Minutes" has obtained an FBI videotape showing a Defense Department employee selling secrets to a Chinese spy for cash. The video, which has never been made public before, offers a rare glimpse into the secretive world of espionage and illustrates how China’s spying may now pose the biggest espionage threat to the U.S.

China may be the number-one espionage threat now. "The Chinese are the biggest problem we have with respect to the level of effort that they’re devoting against us, versus the level of attention we are giving to them," says Michelle Van Cleave, once America’s top counter-intelligence officer who coordinated the hunt for foreign spies from 2003 to 2006.


27 posted on 01/23/2011 8:05:10 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Rappini
We have to be the dumbest nation on Earth.

Not only did we sell them the rope. We showed them how to make the rope more inexpensively, then turned around and paid them for the rope with which they are hanging us.

The Chinese send a bill to the family for the bullet they use to execute people. Americans are paying the bill for the Chinese bullets up front.

Hey, but don't bring up the notion of "fair trade" with the Communists or you'll be called a Communist.

28 posted on 01/23/2011 8:14:48 AM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: mewykwistmas

yeah dropped off the news media radar quickly if I remember correctly. This was a while a go but I seem to remember the bomb hitting the left side of the embassy, (like the parking garage) which would make sense when you think about storing a car size fuselage. But I may be remembering wrong.


29 posted on 01/23/2011 8:29:37 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: tanknetter

I was in the Navy during the early 1980s. Having relatives living in communist countries prevented anyone from a Top Secret Clearance. Why? Because of blackmail.

It happens all the time with folks who have relatives still living in China.

The solution is do not hire ANYONE with living relatives in China.

A very simple solution scowled upon by elites, particularly in the engineering and science fields.


30 posted on 01/23/2011 10:29:28 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: mvpel

So our secrets go for a few thousand now? A few public and well publicized executions might help


31 posted on 01/23/2011 10:50:25 AM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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