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Wall Street Journal rips Newt Gingrich for defending ethanol subsidies
Hotair ^ | 02/01/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 02/01/2011 9:02:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I will support a candidate who goes to Iowa and campaigns on ending ethanol subsidies.


21 posted on 02/01/2011 9:21:16 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: SeekAndFind

22 posted on 02/01/2011 9:21:26 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: cizinec
"If there were a benefit, the government wouldn’t have to mandate it to be done."

I don't believe that's a true statement. If that were true, we wouldn't need government at all. Yet clearly we do.

There are lots of areas where government appropriately sets rules that benefits us all, that the free market would not do on it's own.

Examples, include:


23 posted on 02/01/2011 9:22:11 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Why do we need proof of benefits? Cut the subsidies and quit forcing us to buy it. If it survives on its own then it can be deemed beneficial.

A free market place is the only test needed.


24 posted on 02/01/2011 9:23:05 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: SeekAndFind
I heard a new statistic last night, and that is;

4 out of 10 loads of Corn now go to produce Ethanol.

And if we up that amount to 15% by volume, it will translate to over 5 loads for every 10. (50% of our Corn production in other words.)

It not only increases our cost at the pump, it increases our taxes to pay off the ransom money supporting the subsidies to produce it!

25 posted on 02/01/2011 9:24:06 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: SeekAndFind

Gingrich = Old Republican = Not conservative = No money or votes from me.

EVAH!!


26 posted on 02/01/2011 9:25:47 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: DannyTN

Pollution is not a good example. The government enables pollution yet you give it credit for cutting it? Beleive it or not this country is capable of producing better and cheaper housing in the abscence of codes. Etc is not a good example either.

I will agree on defense but i limited scope. And I will add enforcement of property rights and punishing the guilty.


27 posted on 02/01/2011 9:31:00 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Time to go Egypt on their A$$!

I'm tired of no being able to buy gasoline!

I want good ol'gasoline and nothing but gasoline, so help me God!

The pipeline companies don't like it cause it craps up their lines, are vehicles are no different, they should pay/or be legally rejoined to their responsibility for stealing our money and ruining our property, that's just the truth of the situation, plain & simple.

28 posted on 02/01/2011 9:31:31 AM PST by de.rm (Your growth depends on your willingness to experience anxiety - Herb True)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Ugh, must engage spell check before posting. My apologies.


29 posted on 02/01/2011 9:34:35 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: SeekAndFind
Republicans don’t need a presidential candidate who wants to conduct business as usual by buying farm votes with promises of our money. We need a candidate who recognizes the historical moment for change, rather than the opportunity to sell more of the same.

Amen. Sit down and shut up Newt...you're embarrassing yourself.

30 posted on 02/01/2011 9:36:36 AM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
"Why do we need proof of benefits? Cut the subsidies and quit forcing us to buy it. If it survives on its own then it can be deemed beneficial. A free market place is the only test needed."

I don't think there are any benefits in this case. But suppose that it really was reducing our dependence on foreign oil and in the process helping defund terrorist supporting states. That would certainly be a goal I could get behind and would support government intervention in the market place to help happen.

If Biofuel was likely to be viable alternative to oil given economies of scale and this program was helping achieve those economies of scale, then again I could support the government intervention. Especially if it meant American jobs vs overseas jobs during a time of high unemployment.

But I think there are better alternatives that have already been proven viable like Nuclear, that I'd rather see the government put it's resources behind. I just think the Biofuel, is not going to be viable unless you go to it 100% like Brazil and even then it's very questionable.

31 posted on 02/01/2011 9:40:01 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Remember: Newt is a big GLOBAL WARMING guy too. He is in with all the Dem schemes.


32 posted on 02/01/2011 9:42:48 AM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: DManA
But his policies are irrational.

Not irrational, just self-serving.

33 posted on 02/01/2011 9:45:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
"Beleive it or not this country is capable of producing better and cheaper housing in the abscence of codes.'

I believe the part about cheaper. But codes aren't federally mandated. Yet practically every community freely votes to adopt them.

"The government enables pollution yet you give it credit for cutting it?"

huh? How does the government enable pollution? They sit in their offices and do nothing? They don't pollute. Individuals and businesses pollute. And many of them do so with reckless abandon, until government steps in.

34 posted on 02/01/2011 9:46:28 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Newt isn't pandering for any votes at all.

A little research will reveal that he's on the payroll of one or more alternative-fuel lobbying groups. Just like that former CIA director James Woolsey who writes articles and gives speeches in which he describes our nation's reliance on fossil fuels as a "national security issue" -- when he's got his own agenda lobbying for the alternative fuel industry and even sits on the board of directors of Plug In America (an advocacy group for electric vehicles).

These people get tiresome after a while, don't they?

35 posted on 02/01/2011 9:52:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Newt, stand aside and let the new boys show you ole boys how it is done. You will not get a vote from anyone in my house.


36 posted on 02/01/2011 9:56:16 AM PST by bbernard
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Newt is blatantly pandering for the Iowa Farm vote.

It couldn't be more obvious. Another is Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) who's generally conservative but has never seen an ethanol subsidy he'd vote against.

37 posted on 02/01/2011 9:57:54 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Alberta's Child
Sleazy carpetbagging carnival barkers all!

Here pass out these rotten tomatoes, let's have some fun.

38 posted on 02/01/2011 9:58:25 AM PST by de.rm (Your growth depends on your willingness to experience anxiety - Herb True)
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To: DannyTN
You will not defund anything by cutting our imports of oil. The oil just moves around the market place until it is sold and world wide supply and demand come into equilibrium. There are other ways of handling terrorists that don't involve restricting our freedoms.

If Bio was viable why would you need subsidies to get it going? You would not. But if you consider Bio to be good then the fact that the free market wont make it or buy it is considered a failure.

I will take a free people buying and selling as they see fit over having your preferences imposed on me by government diktat.

39 posted on 02/01/2011 10:01:35 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: DannyTN

Have you looked at the crap being done in the name of Environmentalism with modern building codes? LEED is a joke.


40 posted on 02/01/2011 10:07:17 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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