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W.H.: Resignation of Mubarak son not enough
Politico ^ | Feb. 5, 2011 | Glenn Thrush

Posted on 02/05/2011 10:11:44 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

The White House is now openly pushing for replacing Egypt President Hosni Mubarak with a temporary caretaker government that includes the military and is applauding a decision by Mubarak’s son to step down as head of the country’s ruling party.

But a senior administration official said those steps weren’t enough - and suggested that Mubarak needs to take “additional steps” to quell the chaos in the streets of Cairo, which is threatening to sink Egypt’s already foundering economy.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, speaking to a conference of allies in Munich, Germany, on Saturday, expressed support for a transition effort led by the country’s vice president, Gen. Omar Suleiman - and said it was vital for Suleiman to reach out to all opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood.

“There are certain things that have to be done in order to prepare” for open elections, Clinton told European leaders.

And in another signal that the administration sees Suleiman as key to resolving the crisis, the White House said Vice President Biden spoke with Suleiman on Saturday about “progress in beginning credible, inclusive negotiations for Egypt’s transition to a democratic government to address the aspirations of the Egyptian people.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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KEYWORDS: backstabberdnc; backstabberobama; carterredux; egyptcrisis; egyptunderthebus; fecklessadmin; foreignpolicy; marxistbrotherhood; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood; obama; traitor; treason
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1 posted on 02/05/2011 10:11:45 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When did Mr. Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama become pharaoh?


2 posted on 02/05/2011 10:15:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Lincoln)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The question NO ONE is asking is; who is in line to take control of the country?

0bama is pushing Egypt into further chaos. Where are the adults?

Oh, yeah, there are no adults in elected office.


3 posted on 02/05/2011 10:19:24 PM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When did Mr. Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama become pharaoh?

When the sheeple made him Leader of the Free World.

Know any sheeple? I do.

4 posted on 02/05/2011 10:19:48 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ppfffttt.. it won’t be enough for this administration until they string Mubarak up in the middle of Tahrir Square.


5 posted on 02/05/2011 10:20:46 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

o wants either a muslim takeover or all out war. It is frightening that he is sending Marines to Egypt.


6 posted on 02/05/2011 10:22:14 PM PST by MestaMachine (Note: I never capitalize anything I don't respect. Like obama and/or islam.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Every known islamist front-group is clamoring to get their people inside the power vacuum created by this tossing out of 40 years of diplomatic normalcy.
7 posted on 02/05/2011 10:23:30 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Every time he opens his pie hole, he makes things worse. Go play golf already.


8 posted on 02/05/2011 10:24:32 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, Mr. Smartypants President... SHOW them how it’s done and ... DO IT!!!


9 posted on 02/05/2011 10:28:30 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (NY... Can't afford to Live Here... Can't Afford to LEAVE!!)
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To: Islander7

“Where are the adults?” Great question.

EVERYBODY (except for FReepers) seems to be losing their FREAKING minds!

Is this the end of times? It’s almost like the world itself is trying to start a world war.


10 posted on 02/05/2011 10:31:05 PM PST by ConservativeChris
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So much for self-determination.


11 posted on 02/05/2011 10:36:35 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The administration's behavior is appalling.

It is as if the administration prefers chaos to any semblance of stability in Egypt.

And, perhaps, for their own sinister reasons, they really do...

At this point, one must also ask, why didn't the Iranian people get this kind of aggressive support from an American President...?

12 posted on 02/05/2011 10:39:06 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The great pharaoh O-bam-A will be president of Egypt and the US simultaneously because of his Muslim faith and world historical importance.

Only he can guide the Egyptians to a future full of the promise of Obamacare and green jobs.

13 posted on 02/05/2011 10:39:42 PM PST by mojito
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This administration needs to do their talking behind the scenes. They know nothing of discretion and or International dialogue to be doing this in full view of the audiances. Idiots.. who have no understanding whatsoever what they are doing and every time they speak they show they haven’t a clue to the reality of the situation.


14 posted on 02/05/2011 10:40:16 PM PST by caww
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To: Islander7

I wonder if they already discussed this in detail at the last secretive Bilderberg meeting. Put the financial squeeze on Egypt to create inflation and unrest, and then usher in some globalist friendly stooge in a coup under the guise of a “grassroots” movement.


15 posted on 02/05/2011 10:41:07 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: caww

Micro managing. I couldn’t agree more with you. I think they need to have time to turn the country over to the military and strengths they have to repel a terrorist regime. I believe that Mubarik is a brutal man, but he doesn’t to give Egypt to the terrorists. Dangerous times we live in.


16 posted on 02/05/2011 10:44:53 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yes, he AND Hillary need to STFU.

Words can’t convey how horrific their behavior has been through this whole crisis, with the whole world watching no less. Let’s see - how many more strategic allies can he throw under the bus? He’s killed two birds with one stone this time - Egypt and Israel.

And how about the supreme hypocrisy - he and his ilk vilifying Bush/Cheney for “nation building”. Then they spout THIS pompous rhetoric about Mubarak and his son??

As to whom BHO favors for running Egypt - and the rest of the world - so much enemy ass to kiss, so little time.


17 posted on 02/05/2011 10:48:08 PM PST by llandres
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope this administration falls on its ugly face so bad with this affair that it becomes an inescapable embarassment. I just hope people from this adminstration just keep blabbing their mouths off about what Egypt has to do or should do or might do or could have done. The more the merrier. There is probably an 85% chance this goes Islamofascist, perhaps after some period of military rule, perhaps after some Potemkin village elections, perhaps, unfortunately, after some sort of civil war. The fact is, we have essentially no influence over there, especially considering the influence that Iran and Syria will attempt to exert via Hezbollah. I simply do not believe we have the ability to predict how this will turn out.


18 posted on 02/05/2011 10:50:05 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder ("Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: caww
This administration needs to do their talking behind the scene.

But how can Dear Leader take credit for having "taken control" of the situation unless he does it public, for all to see and appreciate his magnificence?

19 posted on 02/05/2011 10:50:05 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: CIDKauf

It’s absolutely astonishing how this administration conducts itself on every level, but when your’re dealing with international events you need to be sure footed in your responses in every respect. Even the Egyptians are saying the US is sending mixed messages...because they are!

Egypts administration is already allowing meeings with the Mulim Brotherhood....a dangerous move indeed....how far they will permit their involvement remains to be seen. But the Military will have something to say about that no doubt....and the Military is about the only stable player Egypt has right now.


20 posted on 02/05/2011 10:54:25 PM PST by caww
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To: okie01

“one must also ask, why didn’t the Iranian people get this kind of aggressive support from an American President...?”

It’s obvious - because a) he’s not an American President and b) they were revolting against an enemy of the U.S., not one of its allies.

With BHO it’s now Bizarro World.


21 posted on 02/05/2011 10:59:17 PM PST by llandres
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When you start trying to overthrow allied governments, sometimes there are unforeseen consequences.

Now all our allies are on notice that the US has turned on them. That includes London and Israel as well as our bad friends like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and our semi-bad friends like Jordan. Iraq, Karzai, they are also forewarned that a new power is in DC that is not to be trusted. They will all have to make new arrangements until all this blows over. Once they figure out that this isn’t just another one of Washington’s crazy ideas, that this is a new hostile force in power, you will see things shift in ways we may not foresee.


22 posted on 02/05/2011 10:59:36 PM PST by marron
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To: caww

Silently move the force near Eygpt, couple of flat tops and of course the marines. War on terrorism if they officially ask for US intervention. Dangeruous world we live in.


23 posted on 02/05/2011 11:00:11 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: ConservativeChris

Of course things are lining up for that, but God has known to slow things down as well, nothing will happen before it’s time....but the pace this is moving tells me He has lifted His hand and allowing man to take the reins for a time. There are many nations moving now as the USA has lost so much of it’s credibility with other nations and seen as wekk. Obama can only play now in such a fashion as to be re-elected rather than for the welfare or concern about the Egyptians or any other country for that matter. He really ahs no clue how to handle the position He holds other than for his own purposes...and even that He is doing poorly in.


24 posted on 02/05/2011 11:01:44 PM PST by caww
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To: CIDKauf

Well we do have Marines already over their...to what extent I cannot say. And I understand ships as well off the coasts ready if necessary to intervein.....but then other nations too are positioning themsleves worldwide.


25 posted on 02/05/2011 11:03:31 PM PST by caww
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To: MestaMachine

Marines? Hoo-boy, here we go.


26 posted on 02/05/2011 11:05:44 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: caww

If it wasn’t for the Suez province and the canal, then who would care?


27 posted on 02/05/2011 11:06:33 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: llandres
It’s obvious - because a) he’s not an American President and b) they were revolting against an enemy of the U.S., not one of its allies

Therefore, you have to wonder: Is it just incompetence? Or is it intentional? Is it benign bumbling? Or is it malign maneuvering?

And, by the same token, is he operating on his own...or under instruction?

These are two vital questions that desperately need answers...

28 posted on 02/05/2011 11:10:41 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: CIDKauf

We’d still have to care because there is more at stake here than the canal. Iran/Syrian push to flank Saudi and the resources there and throughout the ME. is in full throttlel right now....and why if the Brotherhood gets in will cause great problems. It is vital the right individuals are positioned in the Egyptian administration.

This is why Jordon is attempting to stay ahead of the domino affect whcih could easily come pending the outcome of Egypt. Heck even Italy is now protesting their Leader to step down...Algeria and Liyia protests as well. And others.

My concern is if too many nations leaders step down or are in turmoil the world is then left wide open for a one world dictator to step up to calm it all...and the nations will be in such dier straits they’ll accept anyone who can take the pressures off.....it seems possible things could shape up as that if things continue as we see them beginning to....just pray it doesn’t go that far until the time it is ment to be so..


29 posted on 02/05/2011 11:15:37 PM PST by caww
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Idiots who cannot show LEADERSHIP in America telling an Egytian how to LEAD.

Dumb & Dumber.

30 posted on 02/05/2011 11:17:34 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: caww

“Your grandfather and your great grandfather put their faith in God, not in the government.” Sarah Palin


31 posted on 02/05/2011 11:19:14 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"When did Mr. Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama become pharaoh?"

Perhaps, Barak Hussein bin Obama al-Kenyata's public utterances are campaign rhetoric.

Perhaps, he knows he is not calling the shots in Egypt.

yitbos

32 posted on 02/05/2011 11:20:04 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: caww

“People don’t start wars, governments do.” Ronald Reagan


33 posted on 02/05/2011 11:20:04 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: okie01

This is of course just my own black helicopter opinion which you can take for what its worth.

He’s a puppet president. He doesn’t show up for meetings. He doesn’t govern. He is a face and a voice but others write the words. He’s got a script to read and a role to play.

They keep saying that he’s bored with being president, and the reason is that he isn’t president. The same people who maneuvered him into power are the same people who are trying to maneuver Baradei into power in Egypt. They’ve been at work there for several years planning this, an alphabet soup of organizations that are similar to the alphabet soup of organizations that put Obama into power here, and were busily writing our laws until they lost congress.


34 posted on 02/05/2011 11:21:55 PM PST by marron
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To: marron

I think you’re right in that respect. However we have a military force that has yet to be seen in what it can really do if their hands are untied, and I think nations know this could happen if they push the envelope too far with us. So they will give Bo the coutesey of hearing him just the same and may even allow a bit of glory given to his “help” for a time.

In my opinion other nations “play” with this administration. Unfortunately while they aline themselves for powerful positions in the longer haul when it will not matter one way or the other what our Country thinks.


35 posted on 02/05/2011 11:25:20 PM PST by caww
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To: CIDKauf

Your grandfather and your great grandfather put their faith in God, not in the government.” Sarah Palin

Though that is true God expects man to co-operate with Him and not just stand by for a genie to come out of a bottle. Keeping in mind that other countries do not for the most part seek God in their decisions.... and that is the stage we are on...and why the battle for control of power.


36 posted on 02/05/2011 11:32:12 PM PST by caww
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To: MestaMachine

I did not see where he was sending marines in. Was that posted on another thread or did you hear it on the news?


37 posted on 02/05/2011 11:32:38 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: caww

God helps those that help themselves. I agree with you alot!


38 posted on 02/05/2011 11:44:54 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: marron

“Now all our allies are on notice that the US has turned on them.”

I just pray that at least some of them realize that BHO doesn’t speak for the American people, that millions of us didn’t vote for him and millions more won’t vote for him in ‘12.

It makes me sick how often he’s bashed Bush, saying he’s “restoring our image in the world” after Bush “destroyed it”. Virtually all the aforementioned countries, friends and enemies alike, respected (or feared) GW. Now our friends feel hurt, betrayed and afraid, while our enemies are laughing and emboldened.

Huckabee and Jon Voigt have been in Israel the last few days, not only talking with the people but also meeting with Bibi Netanyahu, who looked so different in these photos vs. all the ones of his meetings with BHO. It was obvious he was warm, relaxed and among real friends.

Wouldn’t you love to have been a fly on the wall of this get-together? We all know how outspoken Jon Voigt is about BHO :-))) I’m sure he and the Huckster tried to offset as much damage as possible done by the Charlatan in Chief.


39 posted on 02/05/2011 11:47:30 PM PST by llandres (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition. Please: NO profanity, NO perso)
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To: CIDKauf

God also helps those who cannot.


40 posted on 02/05/2011 11:48:50 PM PST by caww
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To: Free ThinkerNY
President Obama on Protests in Iran

June 15, 2009 "It is up to Iranians to make decisions about who Iran’s leaders will be," President Obama said this afternoon, underlining "that we respect Iranian sovereignty."

Contrast Obama's statements on Iran with his actions the past two week in regards to Egypt.

I can't even begin to say what little I think of this stinking pile of Kenyan excrement.

41 posted on 02/05/2011 11:57:01 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Only two things come from Texas and I see you're wearing an "I Heart Austin" t-shirt)
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To: marron

That wasn’t a tagline in my reply to you, my computer was doing crazy things, don’t know how that happened - just fyi
:-)


42 posted on 02/06/2011 12:02:58 AM PST by llandres (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition. Please: NO profanity, NO perso)
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To: caww

“The only thing it takes to make a difference is the COURAGE to stop proving that I was RIGHT that I can’t make a DIFFERENCE” Werner Erhart


43 posted on 02/06/2011 12:05:23 AM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: okie01

Ordo ab chao. More staged events brought to you by the NWO.


44 posted on 02/06/2011 12:07:57 AM PST by Hayride
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To: marron
They’ve been at work there for several years planning this, an alphabet soup of organizations that are similar to the alphabet soup of organizations that put Obama into power here, and were busily writing our laws until they lost congress.

The Apollo Alliance? Funding by...Soros? And, maybe, others?

Something like that?

And who might the head controller be? Valerie Jarrett?

Obviously, I've been speculating along similar lines...

45 posted on 02/06/2011 12:14:10 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: bruinbirdman
WTF...Sounds like 0bambi channeling Hitler to Chamberlain in 1938.
46 posted on 02/06/2011 12:23:51 AM PST by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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To: CIDKauf

Micro managing was Jimmy Carter’s fatal flaw to his presidency.


47 posted on 02/06/2011 12:24:04 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; null and void; Yehuda; Jeremiah Jr; 444Flyer; Armaggedon
When did Mr. Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama become pharaoh?

I'd say around Passover last year, when the Obamacare plague was signed and Anubis surveyed New York Harbor.


48 posted on 02/06/2011 12:24:35 AM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: caww
"My concern is if too many nations leaders step down or are in turmoil the world is then left wide open for a one world dictator to step up to calm it all...and the nations will be in such dier straits they’ll accept anyone who can take the pressures off....."

Throw in the possibility of a nuclear exchange re Israel and it's not hard to imagine those dire straights will be dire indeed.

The world has a real 'leaderless' quality to it right now and as the saying goes...nature abhors a vacuum.

49 posted on 02/06/2011 12:51:36 AM PST by mitch5501 (fine!)
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To: Islander7

Yeah, extremely fishy we’re not hearing about that. If there is no viable successor then Obama has just foisted Somalia 2 upon the world.


50 posted on 02/06/2011 1:10:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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