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Americans are angry with us for polluting their language
The Telegraph ^ | February 7, 2011 | Kath Hinton

Posted on 02/07/2011 5:08:46 AM PST by NCjim

After mangling our language for years, Americans are complaining about the invasion of traditional British lingo, says Kath Hinton.

New Yorkers always fall for a nice English accent: whenever my well-spoken sister-in-law visits, they trill at her flowing diction and faultless vowels. Coming from Liverpool, I have a trickier time. In fact, I stopped ordering butter after three waiters in one smart restaurant failed to grasp my pronunciation. "Bootta! Bootta!" I pleaded, while my American friends wept with joy at my embarrassment.

Now, however, it is the words we Anglo-Saxons use, not how we say them, that is causing a stir. After mangling our language for years, Americans are complaining about their own dialect being polluted by "Britishisms".

New Yorker Ben Yagoda, a professor at Delaware University, is studying the invasion of traditional British lingo. He has set up a website to keep track of the wicked, uniquely British words such as "kerfuffle" or "amidst" that are creeping into everyday American usage.

Yagoda's biggest objection, he tells me, is to words for which there are "perfectly good American equivalents, like 'bits' for 'parts' and 'on holiday' instead of 'on vacation' ". They are, he says, "purely pretentious".

Of course, British English has been under assault from this side of the Atlantic for centuries. America's most notorious linguistic anarchist, Noah Webster, decided more than 200 years ago that the English couldn't spell, decreeing that theatre should become theater; favour, favor; jewellery, jewelry; and so on.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: british; english; expats; grammar; tiddler; tittingoffagain
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1 posted on 02/07/2011 5:08:48 AM PST by NCjim
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To: NCjim

“boot” for trunk (of the car).........


2 posted on 02/07/2011 5:13:46 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NCjim

Yobs. I hate that word.


3 posted on 02/07/2011 5:14:59 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Snowpalooza 2011)
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To: NCjim

And calling a cigarette a “fag” may just be a hate crime!


4 posted on 02/07/2011 5:15:48 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: NCjim

My pet peeve is Americans using the Brit’s spelling. They are just trying to be cute.


5 posted on 02/07/2011 5:18:07 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: NCjim

Two peoples, separated by a common language.


6 posted on 02/07/2011 5:19:17 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (BO + MB = BOMB -- The One will make sure they get one.)
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To: NCjim

I give the Brits a thumbs up for “bloody hell.”

As in “What the bloody hell did you do?”


7 posted on 02/07/2011 5:20:03 AM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: NCjim

Not every American thinks British accents are charming, not those who know American or Irish history, for instance. And that accent can get old very fast if you’ve ever found out what’s behind some of the false smiles and deceptive politeness. Australians don’t swoon much to them either.


8 posted on 02/07/2011 5:21:36 AM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: NCjim

Someone invented a subject so they can justify their paycheck.


9 posted on 02/07/2011 5:22:43 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: NCjim
It is one thing to welcome the British enriching the language with their usage but it will mark the ultimate decline of civilization if we permit them to have the slightest influence over our cuisine.

One has to go to former British colonies like New Zealand to get worse food. It is, no doubt, why we fought two wars in 1776 and 1812 and I can think of no more righteous casus belli.


10 posted on 02/07/2011 5:22:49 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: NCjim

"perhaps Kath can provide a translator for the cockney accent. here's one for ya Kath....bullocks"

11 posted on 02/07/2011 5:23:00 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: NCjim

Re-inventing the wheel? Linguists have been documenting this ‘evolution’ for centuries.

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/langevol.html

Ricky Gervais is, however, responsible for this most recent travesty!!!!!


12 posted on 02/07/2011 5:23:09 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: caver

I believe Brit bias may have coloured your judgment.


13 posted on 02/07/2011 5:24:07 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: NCjim

There is less of a seperation between British/ American english than ebonic/American english.


14 posted on 02/07/2011 5:24:15 AM PST by Captain PJ
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To: NCjim
Shortly after my now-deceased wife arrived in the States from her native Australia, we went into the PX here at Fort Hood to purchase some eraser tips for my mechanical pencils. We went back to stationary are looked around for awhile but couldn't find any, so my wife decided to go up to the front of the store and ask one of the cashiers where they were.

I was way near the back of the crowded store when I heard my wife's Australian-accented voice calling from the front cash registers ...

"Honey, the cashier says that the rubbers are in the pharmacy section."

It was only later that I found out that the Aussies (and the Brits, I guess) call "erasers" "rubbers" because, as my wife put it, "They rub out your mistakes."

It was awhile before I went back into that PX again.

15 posted on 02/07/2011 5:25:14 AM PST by BlueLancer (Nuke Austin from orbit .... it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: traderrob6

Ha!


16 posted on 02/07/2011 5:25:17 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: NCjim

Well, I read the thing, and all I have to say is:

Bob’s your uncle.


17 posted on 02/07/2011 5:28:59 AM PST by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: caver
My pet peeve is Americans using the Brit’s spelling. They are just trying to be cute.

At theatres and shoppes everywhere you look.

It's enough to send one to hospital.

18 posted on 02/07/2011 5:29:25 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: NCjim

My favorite British-ism is “sod off.”


19 posted on 02/07/2011 5:31:05 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Graybeard58
If I were to hear an American use a phase like "on holiday" or drop the "the" as in "going to the hospital", I would be willing to bet that the speaker is a liberal.
I don't see your average Conservative using such silly affectations.
It's a pride in one's own country thing.
Libs don't usually have it.
20 posted on 02/07/2011 5:31:10 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: caver
My pet peeve is Americans using the Brit’s spelling. They are just trying to be cute.

Back in my younger days, every aspiring poet, upon first discovering e.e. cummings, went through a stage where capitalization was shunned. Same phenomenon.

21 posted on 02/07/2011 5:33:09 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: NCjim

The true lesson here is how you should never believe your home papers concerning what is an important or a current issue in a foreign land.

If there is a truism at all here, it is that Americans treat a highbrow British accent unrealistically as a sign of intelligence. Likewise they mock the same as a sign of pretenciousness. People have been doing this for at least 40 years (my memory) and I assume that it likely started well before 1776.

Do the Frogs really hate the encroachment of English words? No doubt there are Franco purists that do, but I doubt the common Frog gives two shakes.

Papers must have controversy, and the further away the source, the more believable it is that the mole hill really is a mountain.

I experienced this in my early 20’s, when I would read about some widespread issue of deep concern somewhere that had every citizen on edge, only to arrive there and find that no one gave a crap and often had no knowledge of the subject at all.

Remember “Everyone” = “This reporter and my friends”


22 posted on 02/07/2011 5:34:04 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: NCjim
The true lesson here is how you should never believe your home papers concerning what is an important or a current issue in a foreign land.

If there is a truism at all here, it is that Americans treat a highbrow British accent unrealistically as a sign of intelligence. Likewise they mock the same as a sign of pretentiousness. People have been doing this for at least 40 years (my memory) and I assume that it likely started well before 1776.

Do the Frogs really hate the encroachment of English words? No doubt there are Franco purists that do, but I doubt the common Frog gives two shakes.

Papers must have controversy, and the further away the source, the more believable it is that the mole hill really is a mountain.

I experienced this in my early 20’s, when I would read about some widespread issue of deep concern somewhere that had every citizen on edge, only to arrive there and find that no one gave a crap and often had no knowledge of the subject at all.

Remember “Everyone” = “This reporter and my friends”

23 posted on 02/07/2011 5:34:16 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Graybeard58

LOL!!!

Was being helped by a guy at Home Depot and noted his accent. When I asked how long since he left South Africa - he was impressed - most Americans thought he was Australian.

It’s a gift;)


24 posted on 02/07/2011 5:35:59 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: NCjim
Bwhahahahahaha!

I was imploring the UK Telegraph this very morning to "please speak English."

Yes, I am the World's Muse.

25 posted on 02/07/2011 5:36:04 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Muse to the World, and loving it)
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To: NCjim

I’ll gladly sit and listen to a Brit (who speak very well) than be forced to endure one of America’s ‘urban residents’.


26 posted on 02/07/2011 5:36:33 AM PST by jla
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To: NCjim

It is called “English” for a reason.


27 posted on 02/07/2011 5:36:33 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

A popular one today among the young but I don’t know that it’s Brit in origin is:

“Wanna come with?” as in, “I’m going to the mall, wanna come with”?

I’ve forbidden my grand children from using it in my presence.


28 posted on 02/07/2011 5:37:28 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: nathanbedford

LOL - What’s wrong with meat, potatoes and peas?


29 posted on 02/07/2011 5:37:42 AM PST by jla
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To: yldstrk

Most New York restaurant menus call it: Starters,rather than Appetizers. Except the old school Italian red sauce places.


30 posted on 02/07/2011 5:39:04 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: jla
LOL - What’s wrong with meat, potatoes and peas?

Smushey peas, please! With chips.

31 posted on 02/07/2011 5:42:33 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (Muse to the World, and loving it)
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To: Graybeard58

I think “Come with” is a Philadelphia thing. At least that’s where I was first exposed to it in frequent usage and that was 20+ years ago.


32 posted on 02/07/2011 5:45:34 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: jla
LOL - What’s wrong with meat lamb, potatoes and peas?

there, fixed it

33 posted on 02/07/2011 5:46:00 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: NCjim

Read Shakespeare.

It won´t be long before someone really starts messing with their language...and it won´t be Americans.


34 posted on 02/07/2011 5:47:37 AM PST by onedoug
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To: reagan_fanatic

Me too—and gob smacked. One of my English cousins talks in some version of a cutesy English slang on Facebook. Half the time, I can’t understand a thing she’s talking about. My English born mother wouldn’t be able to understand her either.


35 posted on 02/07/2011 5:49:04 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Joe 6-pack
I think “Come with” is a Philadelphia thing

it's native-speak to Chicagoans for at least the last sixty years ... companion phrase is "go with"

36 posted on 02/07/2011 5:50:39 AM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: Graybeard58

Very colourful comment, what?


37 posted on 02/07/2011 5:50:42 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: NCjim

I’ll never forget when the cute British girl in the apartment across the hall told me, “Just come over and knock me up whenever you’re ready to leave.”


38 posted on 02/07/2011 5:52:55 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: NCjim

What’s wrong with “bits”?

It takes “bits’’ to make “bytes”...................


39 posted on 02/07/2011 5:53:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: BlueLancer

Now that really let the air out of your tyres.


40 posted on 02/07/2011 5:54:20 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: onedoug

I was stationed for five years in Yorkshire, in the north of England. Even though I’ve been gone since 1974, I still use a lot of Britishisms, with a Yorkshire accent, mate.


41 posted on 02/07/2011 5:54:52 AM PST by Ax
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To: Miss_Meyet
Smushey peas, please! With chips.

Mmmmmmm

42 posted on 02/07/2011 5:55:25 AM PST by jla
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To: NCjim
Americans are angry with us for polluting their language

Some Americans just look for a reason to be po'd.

Bloody wankers.

Maybe if they got snogged, their outlook would improve.

43 posted on 02/07/2011 5:56:17 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: BlueLancer

I suppose her ‘clarifying’ that the “rubbers” were “for the end of my husband’s pencil” wouldn’t have helped much. ;)


44 posted on 02/07/2011 5:56:31 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Back in my younger days, every aspiring poet, upon first discovering e.e. cummings, went through a stage where capitalization was shunned.

They eventually gave up poetry, became computer geeks and invented "texting"............

45 posted on 02/07/2011 5:56:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: BlueLancer

In India they use ‘rubbers’ for erasers as well.


46 posted on 02/07/2011 5:56:44 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: sergeantdave
"I give the Brits a thumbs up for “bloody hell.”

I just used it myself this morning on another thread...it felt "quite right".

47 posted on 02/07/2011 5:58:33 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: nathanbedford

There’s a theory that the true cause of British worldwide expansionism and colonialism was mainly a search for something good for dinner.


48 posted on 02/07/2011 5:59:59 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: NCjim
While we are losing our regional accents, we are not losing our national idioms, we are adding others.
The reason for both is mass instant worldwide communications.
At the current rate of change, a 100 years from now English will be the official language of the entire world. Just as it is now in aircraft communication and business.
By then American English with it's addition of words from every language on earth including American Indian Tribal dialects will be part of every language on earth.
So instead of complaining, I am just going to sit back and watch. or listen. As one who hated English and other languages in school, I now find it fascinating.
49 posted on 02/07/2011 6:00:12 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: TheRightGuy

Nothing tastier than a tender lamb shank, served with potatoes and peas, with a bit of gravy if one is feeling roguish!


50 posted on 02/07/2011 6:00:49 AM PST by jla
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