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To: mandaladon

What food crisis.

Don’t Americans pay farmers not to grow foods?
Isn’t America using Corn for Fuel?

Certainly food prices are going up.
Our dollar is worth less and less thanks to QE.
Making gas from Food runs up the cost of grain
When the cost of grain goes up the cost of meat goes up(what do you think they feed all those cows and chickens).
They won’t allow the San Joaquin Valley in Claifornia to grow food because of a snail or fish or some stupid azzed thing.They are turning that bak into a desert.

Don’t tell me about a food crisis when I know what they are doing. It’s BS.


11 posted on 02/07/2011 9:04:49 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Never try to reason with a Libnatic Whacko. They have no ability t process logic.


26 posted on 02/07/2011 9:43:57 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Venturer
"Making gas from Food runs up the cost of grain When the cost of grain goes up the cost of meat goes up(what do you think they feed all those cows and chickens)."

Knowing more than just a little about this subject, I have to interject to dispel this particular myth. Contrary to popular belief, cows and chickens are rarely fed grains. Most of what they eat is composed of a variety of waste products (some including their own), along with grasses in the case of cows. Cattle are only fed grain, if at all, for a short period before slaughter.

In fact, these days they are likely to be fed an ethanol by-product called either WDGS (Wet Distiller's Grains with Solubles) or DDGS (Distiller's Dried Grains with Solubles). The process of producing ethanol from corn only removes the starch from the kernel. Everything else, including the protein and nutrients remains in the WDGS or DDGS that is left over. DDGS in particular has therefore become a highly sought-after animal feed and is used extensively to feed cattle, poultry, and to a lesser degree fish in fish farms. Because of its concentrated nature, it actually contains a higher protein level than a similar mass of raw corn.

Therefore, contrary to the belief that the ethanol production process creates a food versus fuel dilemma, it actually produces BOTH at the same time. While ethanol production has increased corn prices slightly, most of the price increase has been due to oil price increases (a major input into the cost of producing and transporting corn). If ethanol were to blame for high corn prices, then why is it that wheat, barley, and other grains have also mirrored the rise in the price of corn? They are not used to produce ethanol.

I know what I have said is almost heretical around here, but it is the truth. As conservatives, we must always remember that we are the group that favors rationality and facts, wherever they may lead, over unthinking ridicule and emotionalism. We should never jump on a popular bandwagon, just because it gives us an excuse to beat up on liberals, when we don't know the actual facts. To do so is to undermine our credibility on issues where we DO have the facts on our side.

47 posted on 02/07/2011 3:22:46 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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