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Factories boom, but with few new workers
msnbc ^ | 2/7/11

Posted on 02/07/2011 10:33:25 AM PST by Nachum

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To: red irish
they are being pushed to do more and work longer hours. There are a lot of miserable people out there

It's the name of the game....The employers know they have a never ending line of people who are being choked off....

Lets be honest...

"Work harder for less and less" is the new slogan for the American work place.

21 posted on 02/07/2011 11:00:06 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ciexyz
If the new economy requires high school grads to read blueprints and understand basic math in order to program a robot, then high schools should emphasize these skills that will lead to job placement.

But what about Global Warming, surely you don't want the polar bears to die, and the whales to run aground?!

22 posted on 02/07/2011 11:00:18 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: dragnet2

Exactly! A friend of my son is a computer technician who works for a bank, they make his life miserable and control his every move. He is looking for another job but just can’t find another one. He is also NOT making enough money to live on, so now he is talking about joining the military. More young people today are miserable. Even my daughter her job is soo stressful because of management, she too is looking for a new job. She said they are asking her to do more and more even on her days off because of the pressure of the CEO’s that are putting on everybody.


23 posted on 02/07/2011 11:01:08 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Nachum
Barack Hussein Obama's jobless recovery. He is a failure!
24 posted on 02/07/2011 11:01:54 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: red irish
Exactly!

Of course, those that are honest will admit, today's work place is a punitive experience for those left behind...They're over worked, their wages and hours have been reduced, slashed, and their benefits have been decimated..

Instead of pay raises to keep up with ever rising prices, the employers are coming up with schemes of unobtainable incentives, phony commissions and stupid prizes instead of deserved pay raises...

25 posted on 02/07/2011 11:05:42 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t know. There will always be a need for a core of company people who retain the institutional knowledge about how the business is run, how the product is made. Not everything can be farmed out.


26 posted on 02/07/2011 11:07:49 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: red irish
More young people today are miserable. Even my daughter her job is soo stressful because of management, she too is looking for a new job. She said they are asking her to do more and more even on her days off because of the pressure of the CEO’s that are putting on everybody.

The young people today, are basically screwed, and won't even be able to afford or sustain basic things, like a roof over their head.

27 posted on 02/07/2011 11:10:19 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Nachum

One of the positive “benefits” of the 1930s depression was an improvement in automation. This came about because of legislation that favored unions. So now we have innovation out of necessity. But eventually, the onslaught of regulations and work rules will overwhelm the ability of industries to wring out more productivity gains.


28 posted on 02/07/2011 11:10:36 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: red irish
I hear this all the time from my husband and others. In other words the people who are working are working much harder with more hours, their salary and most are not being compensated.

That's about it. Mandatory 12 hour days, 6 days a week.

The other problem is that because so much of our manufacturing jobs have left the country and that means we have less people that know how to perform certain manufacturing jobs. This is why I think companies are trying to get their present workforces to learn more skills. It cheaper than hiring, dumping and hiring and dumping people that cannot be taught or fail to learn how to do the job correctly.

29 posted on 02/07/2011 11:11:47 AM PST by Netizen
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To: dragnet2

Sure. Unless they, you know, acquire some useful skills that the market needs.


30 posted on 02/07/2011 11:13:21 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: dragnet2

IOW—they “hang a carrot” in front of you—with a “promise of more” if YOU do more, but when you do, they just keep moving that carrot. And some—even admit to a ‘revolving door policy” for their workers. not exactly an ‘incentive” to “do more” in my opinion.

Been there—AM there now!!


31 posted on 02/07/2011 11:15:27 AM PST by Rca2000 ( The Obama regime.....and all that goes with it .."All part of the "big plan"......)
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To: red irish
Exactly! A friend of my son is a computer technician who works for a bank, they make his life miserable and control his every move. He is looking for another job but just can’t find another one. He is also NOT making enough money to live on

You bet...

Walk through the neighborhoods of America...Look at the driveways of homes the banksters have not confiscated yet... You see lots of cars, as the kids and adults are forced back home etc....Grow adults, kids, families and their extended families all living together....It's happening everywhere....

32 posted on 02/07/2011 11:16:10 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoothingDave
Sure. Unless they, you know, acquire some useful skills that the market needs.

Oh, like bankruptcy consultants?

33 posted on 02/07/2011 11:18:56 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: stylin19a
He said, "right now, the union job is the only job protecting the wage." as I look back on it, he might have a point.

That's true, but only up to a certain point. I've worked in union shops where they talked the employees into taking wage cuts 'to keep the from relocating'. The workers took the wage cut and the company relocated anyway! lol

The thing the unions are good for is preventing the shops from working you 18 hour days etc.

If companies treated their employees well, there wouldn't be a need for unions.

34 posted on 02/07/2011 11:19:48 AM PST by Netizen
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To: ClearCase_guy
...and we don't know what to do with the workers we don't need.

Soylent Green.

35 posted on 02/07/2011 11:22:23 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: dragnet2
Young people today are too damn lazy to earn a living, they don't look for work, they look for paycheck.

If work is involved they want no part of it. There is plenty of good paying work out there with nobody willing to do it.

36 posted on 02/07/2011 11:25:53 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t know. Maybe so.

Point is, again, if you have useful skills you don’t have to worry about being worked like a dog. If you are so easily replaceable that an employer can treat you like dirt cause if you leave, 20 people will show up to take your position, then you need to learn something more useful.


37 posted on 02/07/2011 11:26:35 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: dfwgator

Right Answer. Necessity is the mother of invention. When people who need jobs can’t find jobs, they will think of a way.


38 posted on 02/07/2011 11:26:51 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Rca2000
Just don't think too hard about those in the government public sector, in their 50s, retiring with lottery style, tax paid retirement pensions.

lol...

The real big fun is coming, when all of those government retirees are eventually told, "Sorry, the tax payers are out of money"

39 posted on 02/07/2011 11:28:26 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: red irish

My husband was one of those people...working for a manufacturer as an engineer. They refused to hire the 4-5 engineers needed and therefore left everything on the shoulders of the 4 remaining engineers (which included my husband). He was working pretty much 7 days a week, upwards of 70+ hour weeks with a wife and four kids at home wondering where he was, LOL. Not to mention they just generally treated him like dirt.

Without getting into too many specifics, he got fed up both physically and mentally from the job, and I’ve not met too many people who will work as hard as my husband. He got a phone call last summer from a former plant manager that he worked for in Indiana. The guy was now in SE OH and told dh about a manufacturing engineer opening they had posted that he thought my husband would be perfect for. It’s the same industry, so dh applied, and long story short, he was offered and accepted the job.

Needless to say, dh’s (now) former employer was not happy when he turned in his notice letter. I guess that’s what they call ‘the shoe’s on the other foot.’ LOL Right now he is in OH working and we are here until school lets out for the summer or the house sells. That part’s difficult, but overall he likes his job a lot more, works only about 45-50 hours a week (at most), and got more money out of the deal. The added bonus is only driving about 4 hours to see family versus the 12 we are driving now.


40 posted on 02/07/2011 11:29:36 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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