Posted on 02/08/2011 4:29:46 AM PST by marktwain
Colorado --(Ammoland.com)- Friday State Rep. Chris Holbert (R-Parker) and State Sen. Greg Brophy (R-Wray) introduced HB1205, the Constitutional Carry Act of 2011.
This bill is designed to do one thing: allow citizens who are legally eligible to possess handguns to carry that handgun without obtaining a costly, burdensome and bureaucratic permit.
One of the chief advantages this bill presents is that citizens are not put on any government tracking list merely for carrying the tools for self defense. Citizens in Vermont, Alaska and Arizona currently enjoy that right, and Wyoming could be joining that list in the next few months.
Just as important as what HB1205 does are what it does not do:
* Does not repeal or otherwise change Colorado’s existing concealed carry permit law (CRS 18-12-201).
* Does not authorize the carrying of a concealed handgun by felons, the mentally ill, juveniles or anyone otherwise prohibited from possessing a handgun under state and federal law.
* Does not change where concealed handguns are allowed as defined by CRS 18-12-214.
* Does not affect reciprocity agreements with other states in any manner.
* Does not affect the ability of prosecutors to pursue charges for other crimes.
This bill is a major step for freedom, and is something every gun owner in Colorado should get behind.
Make sure you sign our petition for this bill by clicking here. We’ll let you know as soon as this bill is scheduled for a House Committee.
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“This bill is designed to do one thing: allow citizens who are legally eligible to possess handguns to carry that handgun without obtaining a costly, burdensome and bureaucratic permit. “
So how do you figure out who can ‘legally’ carry?
Especially since no permit, and I’m assuming no ‘application’ would be necessary.
Excellent! Very glad to hear this.
If you don't fall into one of those categories you can legally carry. If you do you will have no doubt about it.
Still doesn’t answer the question though.
If there is no ‘application’ process, how do you determine who is a felon or mentally handicapped?
Because without some ‘process’ to allow carrying, you wouldn’t know unless the person is stopped by law enforcement for some reason.
Open carry is already legal in many states; I don’t know if Colorado is one of them. But there are two points to be gained from that — first, that people already have a responsibility to know if they’re legal to carry if they wish to do so, this doesn’t impose a new burden on anyone. And second, if people can already open carry and there hasn’t been a bloodbath, there’s no reason to fear one from permitless CCW. This law doesn’t do anything but offer another carry option to people already allowed to carry (again, that’s the situation in most states, not sure about CO).
If they stop you and find that you are carrying a firearm they can run a check on you just as they do any time they make a traffic stop on you. If you are underage that will be obvious. If you’re a felon or adjudicated mentally incompetent it will be in the database. Those things are already there.
Open carry is legal in CO except in Denver, Boulder and probably a few other municipalities. This would end the need for the permit system we already have for concealed carry.
Yeah. That’s what I was referring to.
So someone just buys a gun and carries it whether they are ‘legally’ eligible or not and the only process would be law enforcement checking on a traffic or other stop.
Thanks.
Ok. I kinda missed this line.
“* Does not repeal or otherwise change Colorado’s existing concealed carry permit law (CRS 18-12-201). “
Got it now..
Thanks
As far as carrying any way you want to it has always been that way in VT and AK adopted an almost identical law a few years ago and AZ adopted one of their own just recently.
True but as I read it under the new law you would not need to get a permit to carry concealed.
Is there a “test” to see who can exercise what Rights?
“Is there a “test” to see who can exercise what Rights?”
Don’t know about a ‘test’ but in New York State you sure have to jump through a lot of hoops to exercise your ‘right’ to carry.
You know in VT there are no state permits or restrictions on owning and carrying a machine gun. You have to abide by Federal laws of course but a paragraph in the VT state constitution is the only firearms law of the state and it says, to paraphrase, “there shall be no restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms” and they have never made any.
Laws don’t prevent crime. If you’re found carrying a gun, and you’re legal, this law says no crime. As it is if you’re carrying a gun, then if you have no “permit” you are in violation of law, even if you are otherwise law-abiding. This is a good law, but I’m afraid the ‘rat majorities here will stymie it. (’Rat house, ‘rat senate, ‘rat governor.)
It appears to me that the only thing our law makers need to do is insure that the Colorado Government obey the law that is already on the books, the second amendment.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed is the law.
* Does not repeal or otherwise change Colorado’s existing concealed carry permit law (CRS 18-12-201).
* Does not authorize the carrying of a concealed handgun by felons, the mentally ill, juveniles or anyone otherwise prohibited from possessing a handgun under state and federal law.
While it makes sense that the mentally ill should not have guns, the rest of it is just a bunch of bull and says no such thing in the second amendment.
How many so called juveniles fought in the war for independence? how many fought to free the slaves? world war 1 and world war 2 ?
Since the courts decide who is a felony then a felony could be almost any thing, so by todays standards we should ask the question how many felons and juveniles fought in the wars to keep our sorry ass,s free.
Besides, how are they going to keep a real criminal or the mentally ill from carrying a gun?
I do not carry a weapon of any kind and most likely never will, but i believe it is the peoples right so i will go along with what ever helps restore those rights.
At the same time if some one tried to stop some one from getting welfare because it appeared they did not need it bad enough every one would yell infringement.
But where it comes to the 2nd amendment no one seems smart enough to know what infringement even means.
It is our government and the people in control of the government that is trying to take away all of our freedoms so if we let them determine who the criminals are and what an infringement is concerning the 2nd amendment then we will all be criminals and will not be allowed to keep and bear arms any way.
And no i am not anti government, i just think we need to control the people in government instead of letting our hirelings control us.
Still doesn’t answer the question though.
If I were in the prohibited classes, I sure wouldn’t think of Carrying, would you? Medical privacy rights prohibit disclosing the Crazies anyway. So, if you aren’t in the state bug house, you are good to go. Pother! ( and maybe even then)
Please excuse this non PC post.
Of course, if they don't mean anything to you, expounding on how others choose to exercise theirs doesn't make a lot of sense.
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