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House Unexpectedly Defeats Patriot Act (Freedom & Liberty Restored?)
FoxNews.com ^ | February 08, 2011 | Chad Pergram

Posted on 02/09/2011 3:09:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1

It was the Congressional version of never count your chickens before they're hatched.

And when you do on Capitol Hill, you can sometimes lose a vote.

The newly-minted House Republican leadership botched a vote Tuesday night when it presumed it had the necessary support to reauthorize the Patriot Act, the anti-terrorism law imposed after September 11th.

The GOP expected little trouble with the bill. So Republicans brought the Patriot Act to the floor under a special procedure that requires a two-thirds vote for passage. It's a maneuver that's typically reserved for non-controversial legislation or bills that carry wide support.

Renewing that Patriot Act had certainly had wide support. 277 members voted in favor of the measure compared to just 148 nays.

But that's short of the two-thirds supermajority. Which means the House defeated the bill.

With 425 members voting, 284 yea votes were necessary to cross the two-thirds threshold for passage. 26 Republicans voted against renewing the law.

Democrats opposed to the Patriot Act were gleeful at the GOP miscalculation.

"Look at the ‘Don't Tread on Me flag.' It doesn't say don't tread on me, but it's okay if you spy," said Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), one of the most ardent opponents of the Patriot Act. "What the Republican leadership didn't count on is that they have some new members who are freshmen who are conservative, libertarian, who really do believe in civil liberties."

Eight Republicans whom the GOP regards as freshmen voted against the reauthorization. That's precisely the number of yea votes Republicans needed to pass the bill.

House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) used to set the schedule when Democrats were in the majority and is familiar with floor meltdowns like the one Tuesday night.

But despite the misstep, Republicans blamed Democrats for the defeat.

(Excerpt) Read more at politics.blogs.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; congress; counterterrorism; gop; house; obama; patriotact; teaparty
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To: d-back

Good for you.


141 posted on 02/09/2011 1:15:20 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Crim
You seem to be threatening american cities a lot - very telling

But if we lose our constitution - you can keep your cities - cause they ain't american.

this PATRIOT ACT (so-called) violates 6 of the original 10 amendments.

How dare you defend it and hide behind a flag?

142 posted on 02/09/2011 2:30:56 PM PST by jd777
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To: jd777

“You seem to be threatening american cities a lot - very telling”
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Innuendo...guilt by disagreement...

I’m pointing out who wants those cities destroyed....

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.8528/pub_detail.asp

And you guys dont want to just slay the messenger...you want to gang bang the coprse...


But if we lose our constitution - you can keep your cities - cause they ain’t american.


Circular logic.


this PATRIOT ACT (so-called) violates 6 of the original 10 amendments.


Prove it...provide some kind of documentation to support that statement.

Parhaps you missed this USSC ruling on the matter:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0621/Supreme-Court-upholds-controversial-part-of-Patriot-Act


How dare you defend it and hide behind a flag?

How dare I?

My arent you the authoritarian.

I’m not hidng behind anything...not even a flag...


143 posted on 02/09/2011 2:47:06 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: mrmeyer

Quite right...my apologies for calling you a dumbass.


144 posted on 02/09/2011 2:48:15 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: driftdiver

See post 139.

And I thought you were done.


145 posted on 02/09/2011 2:49:59 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: jd777

BTW...a quick review of you posting history reveals you spend a bit of effort defending Islam.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2645890/posts?page=21#21

Even praising The occupation of cordoba:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2663981/posts?page=50#50

Care to explain that?


146 posted on 02/09/2011 3:04:29 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: VermiciousKnid
No. And many states are moving to do away with the sales of it all together.
147 posted on 02/09/2011 3:06:42 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: listenhillary
Thread winner!!! Nailed it.
148 posted on 02/09/2011 3:08:57 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: MrB
Obama lied, liberty died.
149 posted on 02/09/2011 3:10:50 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: broken_arrow1

This piss poor anti-freedom measure needs to fry. It doesn’t keep us safe and it enables jackbooted government thugs.


150 posted on 02/09/2011 3:19:51 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Crim
Sure friend: how's this?

our nation was founded for the sake of religious freedom and we were endowed with inaliable rights by our creator. And so I pray. And when I do...

I pray to the One God.

The God of Abraham

The God of Moses

The God of Jesus

and yes to the God of Mohammed

may peace be upon them all. And when these wars are over it shall come to pass that the three great faiths shall dwell in The New Jerusalem. And while some may scoff when they see all the children of Abraham gathered. I hope they shall remain to pray.

151 posted on 02/09/2011 3:29:14 PM PST by jd777
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To: jd777

Yeah that’s what I thought....last time you did the islam shuck and jive...you disappeared for a year...from 12/27/10 to 1/27/11 to be exact...

Mohammed was a pedophile who bedded a 9 yr old.


152 posted on 02/09/2011 3:38:37 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: jd777; Candor7; Las Vegas Ron

sniff sniff


153 posted on 02/09/2011 3:43:20 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Crim
What do you think they are going to do with 80 million gun owners? Round us up?

I'd like to remark on that. The NRA estimated that there were 80 million gun owners in the early '90s. Since then we have been through the Clinton-gun-ban-motivated firearms sales surge, 9-11-01, increased population and two years of an 0bambi inspired gun sales surge. I think it's only reasonable to estimate that there are now at least 100 million gun owners in America.

That constitutes a standing militia that is far larger than all of the standing armies in the world put together.

Pardon the interruption but I just thought an update on that figure was in order.

154 posted on 02/09/2011 3:51:50 PM PST by TigersEye (We're gonna need more blades of grass.)
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To: broken_arrow1
However, under Obama's DHS, returning war veterans, pro-lifers, pro-Constitutionalists, pro-Second Amendment and freedom loving Americans everywhere are under assault as "domestic extremists" and treated like terrorists prone to surveillance by our own government.

Knife in hand of surgeon trying to cut out the cancer--generally good. Knife in hand of maniac trying to cut your throat--generally bad.
155 posted on 02/09/2011 3:52:12 PM PST by aruanan
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To: TigersEye

I stand corrected...100 million gun owners...

Thanks.


156 posted on 02/09/2011 3:59:59 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Crim
20 million gun owners thank you for not forgetting them. ;-)

Hey, I think that's more than all the standing armies in the world. Or close to it.

157 posted on 02/09/2011 4:27:28 PM PST by TigersEye (We're gonna need more blades of grass.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Really? I hadn’t heard that one, mad...well, that’s just GREAT. Chalk another one up for the meth heads then.

Regards,


158 posted on 02/09/2011 4:52:00 PM PST by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: TigersEye

well then we can let our govt get away with anything they want, right. cause we got 100 million gun owners who arent organized and most shoot their gun once a year.


159 posted on 02/09/2011 5:12:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Crim
If it was a 9 year old boy maybe he could get a job with the Catholic Church .

By the way Abraham married his sister. Is he not A prophet of the One God.?

160 posted on 02/09/2011 5:19:38 PM PST by jd777
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