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Oooops! Saudi oil reserves 'overstated by 40%' (Long suspected, now apparently confirmed)
American Thinker ^ | 02/09/2011 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/09/2011 7:52:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind

As far back as 2004, there was worry that the Saudis were fudging on how much oil they still had in the ground. Thanks to Wikileaks, we now have a little better idea. The Guardian:

The US fears that Saudi Arabia, the world's largest crude oil exporter, may not have enough reserves to prevent oil prices escalating, confidential cables from its embassy in Riyadh show.

The cables, released by WikiLeaks, urge Washington to take seriously a warning from a senior Saudi government oil executive that the kingdom's crude oil reserves may have been overstated by as much as 300bn barrels - nearly 40%.

The revelation comes as the oil price has soared in recent weeks to more than $100 a barrel on global demand and tensions in the Middle East. Many analysts expect that the Saudis and their Opec cartel partners would pump more oil if rising prices threatened to choke off demand.

However, Sadad al-Husseini, a geologist and former head of exploration at the Saudi oil monopoly Aramco, met the US consul general in Riyadh in November 2007 and told the US diplomat that Aramco's 12.5m barrel-a-day capacity needed to keep a lid on prices could not be reached.

According to the cables, which date between 2007-09, Husseini said Saudi Arabia might reach an output of 12m barrels a day in 10 years but before then - possibly as early as 2012 - global oil production would have hit its highest point. This crunch point is known as "peak oil".

Husseini said that at that point Aramco would not be able to stop the rise of global oil prices because the Saudi energy industry had overstated its recoverable reserves to spur foreign investment. He argued that Aramco had badly underestimated the time needed to bring new oil on tap.

In other words, if there's a war between Israel and Iran, our goose is cooked. Saudi Arabia will be unable to pump enough oil to materially affect the price of a barrel of oil which could lead to nightmare prices exceeding $300 bbl.

Meanwhile, caribou graze peacefully in ANWR and Gulf oil rigs are being sent elsewhere because we have an administration that is allergic to crude oil. They break out in hives anytime someone mentions drilling.

In other news, solar plants are closing and no new nuclear plants are planned for the foreseeable future.





TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; ethanol; goldbugs; mubarak; oilreserves; peakoil; saudiarabia; wikileaks
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1 posted on 02/09/2011 7:52:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

More BS from the “Peak-Oil” crowd.


2 posted on 02/09/2011 7:55:30 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: SeekAndFind
Drill baby drill....

...and scare the shiite out of the A-rab Saudis.

3 posted on 02/09/2011 7:57:32 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: US Navy Vet

That’s how I see it too. The information i this wikileaks document is worth every penny we pay for it.


4 posted on 02/09/2011 7:58:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a new line of argument that I take for those who say we should not even start drilling for our reserves until other reserves in other countries are used up:

Let’s say it takes 5 years minimum for new drilling to produce usable stuff. That 5 years is used to set up all of the infrastructure. Would it be smarter to drill NOW and cap off the wells until we want to use them or would it be smarter to wait until the reserves are gone and then begin to drill?

What do you think would happen to the price of gas until the drilling is complete? What would happen to this country’s productivity? It is just insane that we continue to wait to at least begin to drill.


5 posted on 02/09/2011 8:00:17 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not much for tin foil hattery, but this is all starting to have a pattern.


6 posted on 02/09/2011 8:00:37 AM PST by doodad
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To: DManA

Sweet! Build U.S. oil rigs now so when Saudi oil “runs out” we can rake in HUGE profit$$$!

(Unfortunately, the U.S. gubbermint doesn’t have this sort of sensible mentality.)


7 posted on 02/09/2011 8:01:13 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: SeekAndFind
The Saudi bubble will burst one of these fine days.
8 posted on 02/09/2011 8:01:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: SeekAndFind

9 posted on 02/09/2011 8:08:00 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: SeekAndFind

And the U.S. supply is probably understated by a factor of three or four.


10 posted on 02/09/2011 8:09:30 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because no foreign nationals ever feed self-serving disinformation to State Dept types.

NEVER, EVER!


11 posted on 02/09/2011 8:10:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

For all of Obama’s jawboning about nuclear, we have exactly 1 plant under construction and it was approved in 2007.

And we have approved government backed financing for 1 reactor in Georgia, which I think is a research facility and not really a power plant.


12 posted on 02/09/2011 8:17:48 AM PST by DannyTN
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RE: we have exactly 1 plant under construction and it was approved in 2007.


Where is this plant located?


13 posted on 02/09/2011 8:21:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: FreedomPoster

Yeah, but I think this has a ring of truth to it. It appears to be a confession of a truth western oil experts have long suspected; that the Saudis have pumped out most of what they have.

The Saudis didn’t get a limitless supply, and just like Pennsylvania and Texas, after 3/4 of a century of pumping oil the end is in sight. Now, it’s probably still a long way off; even 60% of what they claimed to have is a lot of oil. The economic problem is that they can no longer bring a daily supply to market to keep the price down.

I would not doubt that this was discussed by George W. Bush the last time he went to grovel before the degenerate Saudi king for more oil back in 2008. The Saudis have enough of an economic stake in America that they didn’t want a collapse like we are going through. If they could avoid it by opening up the faucets a little more, they would have. I think the Saudis told Bush “it’s not that we won’t, it’s that we can’t.” Bush, being a savvy oil man, knew he had to keep that under his hat.

The real problem is that the current regime should know these facts, and isn’t doing anything constructive in our own country. We should be drilling our brains out, building nukes, and converting our plentiful coal into synthetic fuel. But no, our leaders would rather tilt at windmills.

My other take on this is that once Saudi oil production starts to decline, you are going to have some serious political instability in the Kingdom. It will only get worse as time goes by. There is no sustainable economic activity there, thanks to their adherence to their barbaric medieval religion. My guess is that they will run through their oil money, and sell us back all our property (or sell it to the Chinese). In 20 to 25 years, their empire turns back to sand (a prize for anyone who can quote artist and song).

And keep in mind that the Chinese and Japanese get their oil from the middle east (we get more of ours from Canada). Watch them try to open up OUR reserves for their own use.


14 posted on 02/09/2011 8:31:17 AM PST by henkster (Before we make any more "investments" we ought to be shown the prospectus.)
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To: US Navy Vet

They’re hiding that oil, Texas oil is being hidden they did not peak in 1973 at 3+mbd and drop to less than 1mbd today because of something stoopid like PO (which is a CIA plot). No sir them resevoirs is filling up as we speak and a huge conspiracy is taking place right before our eyes. Now don’t get me going on the Alaskan North Slope oil conspiracy where they supposedly peaked in 1988 at 2mbd and now down to less than 1mbd. (I think whats her name knows about this but is in on it)


15 posted on 02/09/2011 8:31:30 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: henkster

Those resevoirs are filling up faster than we burn it, PO is a giant conspiracy hatched by the NWO and its secret tentacles, I know it I read about it on the internet.


16 posted on 02/09/2011 8:33:24 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: junta

Would god let us run out of oil? I think not.


17 posted on 02/09/2011 8:36:33 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: DannyTN

The GOP needs to start hammering Obama on this. He has talked on and on about “clean energy” and “green jobs”. Oil just hit an all-time high for February and we are in danger of skyrocketing oil prices derailing the economy. He has violated a court order and stopped production in the Gulf. Where is his energy plan? Even if everyone bought electric cars, solar and wind power aren’t enough for the grid. North Dakota is booming because of “oil jobs”. Imagine if we opened up full production here all of the good jobs that would be created. Manufacturing is already mostly dead in this country and construction will be stalled for years. We have natural resources we refuse to exploit. Exxon Mobil is about to invest 15 billion dollars in a LNG pipeline in Papua New Guinea—we have tons of natural gas in this country we could be tapping. We should have nuclear power plants going up all over the place, which would provide lots of “good jobs” as well.

Obama needs to be hammered for his incoherence regarding an energy policy here, and the how he is stifling the creation of “good” jobs, not fictitious green jobs that never materialized. (There’s a solar plant in Fremont, CA, that’s received hundreds of millions in tax subsidies and they are still laying off people. A plant in high-cost California can’t compete with China.)


18 posted on 02/09/2011 8:38:54 AM PST by Conservative Vet
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To: SeekAndFind
Watts Bar, TN #2 The first link below has an interesting chart of proposed plants in the US.

"Watts Bar 2

"While the focus is on new technology, TVA undertook a detailed feasibility study which led to its decision in 2007 to complete unit 2 of its Watts Bar nuclear power plant in Tennessee. The 1177 MWe reactor is expected to come on line in 2013 at a cost of about $2.5 billion. Construction was suspended in 1985 when 80% complete and resumed in October 2007 under a still-valid permit, and is progressing on time and budget. Its twin, unit 1, started operation in 1996. Completing Watts Bar 2 utilizes an existing asset, thus saving time and cost relative to alternatives for new baseload capacity. It was expected to provide power at 4.4 ¢/kWh, 20-25% less than coal-fired or new nuclear alternatives and 43% less than natural gas."

Nuclear Power - USA

Nuclear power plants world wide

19 posted on 02/09/2011 8:41:21 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: junta

“Beam me up Scotty! There is no intelligent life to be found here!”


20 posted on 02/09/2011 8:43:09 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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