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Judge Rules Against Bank In Mortgage Modification Suit
Forbes ^ | 2/10/11 | Shah Gilani

Posted on 02/10/2011 9:20:07 AM PST by Kartographer

A recent ruling by a California appeals court clears the way for fraud charges against a lender that promised a loan modification but then foreclosed on the borrower.

The ruling throws into question the legality of hundreds of thousands of foreclosures.

Not only was the ruling a frontal assault on the empty promises made by servicers and banks, the case highlighted some despicable tactics often employed to force foreclosures.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: housingbubble
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Well, well, well
1 posted on 02/10/2011 9:20:11 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: RideForever; FromLori; blam; Chunga85; Lurker; azhenfud; Wolfie; UCFRoadWarrior

PING!!!


2 posted on 02/10/2011 9:21:08 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Judge ignores all contract law, including statute of frauds, to find a way to keep the market from operating. Must be a rat.


3 posted on 02/10/2011 9:27:46 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Kartographer

Anyone still surprised?

Perhaps some of the Freepers who were trying to claim there was no housing bubble back in 2007 will now tell us this is fake?


4 posted on 02/10/2011 9:28:53 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: Kartographer

How dare this judge, thinking he has a right to impugn and sully the good reputation of the mortgage industry with accusations like “despicable tactics”...


5 posted on 02/10/2011 9:30:45 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kartographer
The EPA will overturn this decision...


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

6 posted on 02/10/2011 9:31:03 AM PST by The Comedian (Muslim Brotherhood = A.N.S.W.E.R = Soros = Obama)
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To: Kartographer

The promise of a loan modification does not mean the modification is necessarily beneficial to the buyer.


7 posted on 02/10/2011 9:38:18 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

True but what do you call a promise of a loan modification followed by a quick foreclosure action?


8 posted on 02/10/2011 9:40:14 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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True but what do you call a promise of a loan modification followed by a quick foreclosure action?

At a time when many borrowers responding to impending foreclosure by trashing the property, I would call it wisdom.

9 posted on 02/10/2011 9:42:35 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Kartographer

In the mortgage industry, it’s called “dual-tracking”.

Ostensibly helping the homeowner with one hand, while simultaneously pursuing foreclosure with the other.


10 posted on 02/10/2011 9:43:24 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: kbennkc

“Judge ignores all contract law, including statute of frauds, to find a way to keep the market from operating. Must be a rat.”

I am not sure about contract law in this situation. It seems that both parties were looking for advantage. The gullible home owner was duped by the bank. The bank’s tactics were clearly underhanded although I am not sure if the practices were illegal. She was trying to gain leverage by filing Chapter 13. It is easy to take her side because she is an individual against a large corporation. I see this case as a battle between the note holder and home occupier.


11 posted on 02/10/2011 9:44:28 AM PST by businessprofessor
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I am not sure about contract law in this situation.

None of us can be really sure without reviewing the documents and facts , but I am pretty sure of one thing. If the home buyer had made his payments as agreed there would not have been a foreclosure.

12 posted on 02/10/2011 9:59:12 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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“None of us can be really sure without reviewing the documents and facts , but I am pretty sure of one thing. If the home buyer had made his payments as agreed there would not have been a foreclosure.”

I agree so my sympathy does not go with the home occupier. I am not sure about the morality of Chapter 13 to avoid foreclosure. One could argue that Chapter 13 provides incentive by home occupiers to stiff the note holders.


13 posted on 02/10/2011 10:04:12 AM PST by businessprofessor
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If the debtor has no equity in the property, and Chapter 13 allows him to avoid foreclosure, then the law is an ass, an idiot.
14 posted on 02/10/2011 10:10:44 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To ALL! Here is why banks do not do modifications They say they do but there is too much profit from foreclosures or short sales. Please watch http://www.youtube.com/user/fiercefreeleancer
15 posted on 02/10/2011 10:12:32 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: kbennkc

Yeah cause we know the banks always do whats moral and right.


16 posted on 02/10/2011 10:14:17 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Yeah cause we know the banks always do whats moral and right.

Banks are not trying to get into Heaven. There is no such thing as moral in their world and right means what a court allows them to do.

17 posted on 02/10/2011 10:22:47 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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"True but what do you call a promise of a loan modification followed by a quick foreclosure action?"

She got screwed, of that there is no question.

18 posted on 02/10/2011 10:26:43 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: kbennkc

“Banks are not trying to get into Heaven.”

Banks are run by people.

” There is no such thing as moral in their world and right means what a court allows them to do. “

There most certainly is morality in business. To think otherwise demonstrates a black heart.

The banks bought and paid for the laws which allowed them to destroy our economy. The same economy which now impacts so many people.


19 posted on 02/10/2011 10:30:54 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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The banks bought and paid for the laws which allowed them to destroy our economy.

Question for discussion:

In the first decade of the twenty first century, which group did more damage to the United States?

A. Al Qaeda

B. The investment banking industry

20 posted on 02/10/2011 10:48:02 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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