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Navy Officer in Hot Water for Retaliating Against Ensign After Anti-Gay Harassment Charge
Fox News ^ | February 10, 2011 | Diane Macedo

Posted on 02/11/2011 2:16:55 PM PST by The Unknown Republican

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To: DJ MacWoW

Absolutely correct. This kind of thing is going to happen a lot going forward.


21 posted on 02/11/2011 2:51:56 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: OldNewYork

And there’s no triangle in this case, or jealousy over preferential treatment, etc., etc. It’s gonna get ugly.

And the Euro’s who allow this... they have us to backstop them, so if they catch their skirts on a tree branch they’ve got us to pick them up. They can afford to have all kinds of “experimental” organizational changes. They could staff up with goats if they wanted to. No matter how well-intended they are, they really are not putting up a complete defense of their nation as they are not capable of repelling anything resembling a superpower. What do they really contribute to joint operations any more ?

Yet no one can help us but God. For the free world, we are the military protector of last resort.


22 posted on 02/11/2011 2:54:07 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: CholeraJoe

ROTFLMAO !


23 posted on 02/11/2011 2:54:55 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: bigheadfred

Isn’t this the song that got some radio station in Upper U.S. (as we used to call Canada back in the day) in trouble recently?


24 posted on 02/11/2011 2:55:39 PM PST by ssaftler (Barack Obama - Setting new highs in low for politicians worldwide)
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To: Mouton; Lancey Howard

Ah, I miss the good old days.


25 posted on 02/11/2011 2:58:21 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: Ken522; CholeraJoe
“Where do you get that? I knew several NavAir types when I was in the Service, and none of them were queer.”

Wellllll. . . .I am a retired USAF fighter pilot and always found the Navy pilots too easy when I slipped in for a “stern conversion” and shot a heater up their tailpipe. . .so to speak. . .

;-)

26 posted on 02/11/2011 3:03:24 PM PST by Hulka
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To: CholeraJoe
Fighter pilots earn their tactical name. . . .like “Hulka.”
27 posted on 02/11/2011 3:04:43 PM PST by Hulka
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To: ssaftler

I don’t know. Nothing would surprise me. But it is really great when TV programs now endorse vulgarity and profanity but you can’t call a fag a fag. Or a fat ass a fat ass. It goes on.

Hey! What’s the difference between a BYU-I coed and a police car?


28 posted on 02/11/2011 3:05:46 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: CholeraJoe

I left the Marines over forty years ago, so I can’t tell you about current call signs. But most of the ones I see in the professional journals sound rather juvenile, IMHO.

Back in the day, we used the aircraft squdron tail number for the radio call sign. If you flew in the skipper’s plane, even as a junior officer, you were DR-01, for instance.

The clue that made me read the orinal article was the fact that the officer was an Ensign. Not likely in today’s Navy, with vitually all aviators being college graduates (no more cadets) who have been through 18 months of flight training before joining the fleet. I’d guess the most junior aviator in today’s Navy would be at least a Lt(jg).

The subject of this article is the squadron Admin officer, an LDO. He’s a former chief.

Don’t trust my recollection, though. I also remember marksmen in the rigging.


29 posted on 02/11/2011 3:08:56 PM PST by Former War Criminal (My senior Senator [who served in Vietnam and Rhode Island] said so.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Nope. If he wasn’t homosexual he’d be screaming it.”

That is what I think. Well, if the Commander he fingered is a popular officer, the Ensign had better watch his back and not for other homosexuals wanting to probe him. He may find himself the poor victum of an accidental “man overboard” situation. I’m not condoning him being done this way, but that is how it works many times.

Just because some lame duck congress repeals DADT based upon a bogus DoD survey and a misguided Admiral and SecDef, etc. Doesn’t mean that the troops/sailors will accept open homosexuals without serious incidents occuring. Especially if they cause the service to lose a popular commanding officer.

The Ensign should know that his career is over as well.


31 posted on 02/11/2011 3:19:55 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: The Unknown Republican

In the Fox News Picture the man has 5 rows of ribbons plus 2 pins, ensign to lt jq is 2 years. Pilot training is at least a year plus 3 months of ocs. How is this man an ensign?


32 posted on 02/11/2011 3:22:18 PM PST by flyover
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To: The Unknown Republican

If words make you pee your pants, you shouldn’t be in the military. I’ll bet “fagmeister” is pretty mild as nicknames go.


33 posted on 02/11/2011 3:23:59 PM PST by Méabh
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To: PieterCasparzen
Yet no one can help us but God. For the free world, we are the military protector of last resort. [and above]

Well said. Talking to an Australian officer one day about this kind of thing in their navy, he let me know that things don't work as well as they are portrayed, or even officially reported within military channels. As could have been imagined prior, reporting problems with even deviations from what's allowed is unofficially frowned on as whatever the Australian phrase for 'not with the program' is. Reality is ignored in deference to ideology. Shooting the messenger isn't an exclusively American pastime, and Australian officers think as much of career advancement as American ones. And you're exactly right, all the problems with perverse triangles haven't even hit here yet.

We have a tea party-dominated Republican Party in control of the House now. What are we doing to get the military back into some kind of sensible order? Those actually in the military aren't able to speak out on this because of chain of command and penalties for insubordination, which is what their criticism of the sodomizing directives putting their lives, our military, at risk would be. We owe it to them, who very literally put their lives on the line for us, to give them the best opportunity of successfully fulfilling their missions at least personal risk.

34 posted on 02/11/2011 3:26:54 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Sola Veritas
The Ensign should know that his career is over as well.

The article in post 1 says he isn't living with the rest of them although he's still part of the group. He may be getting an inkling that he should have laughed it off.

35 posted on 02/11/2011 3:29:34 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: flyover
In the Fox News Picture the man has 5 rows of ribbons plus 2 pins, ensign to lt jq is 2 years. Pilot training is at least a year plus 3 months of ocs. How is this man an ensign?

My thoughts exactly. For an ensign, that's a lot of "fruit salad" ;)

36 posted on 02/11/2011 3:32:06 PM PST by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: OldNewYork
Talking to an Australian officer one day about this kind of thing in their navy

On another note that could be another thread, if I was Australian I'd be cr@ppin myself looking at China looking at all my natural resources. If the Chinese beast gets very hungry, it's going to continue on it's resource hunt exactly the way Japan did. Speaking of needing us.

I don't know what politicians think about, apparently not much. But the military fixing should be task 1 for a majority Tea Party Congress and a conservative President. Policywise it needs to go back to old school. But what do we know...
37 posted on 02/11/2011 3:33:21 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: The Unknown Republican

Never mind I see he has 16 years in, and is not a flight officer must be a mustang or an LDO. Still find the 2 pins interesting.


38 posted on 02/11/2011 3:36:31 PM PST by flyover
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To: The Unknown Republican

Thanks for the link. It confirmed what I suspected when I saw that the Ensign Crowston was 36. He was a Chief Petty Officer who became a limited duty officer, and I guess he felt he shouldn’t have to put up with the harassment that is usually given to younger ensigns just entering the Navy.


39 posted on 02/11/2011 3:40:15 PM PST by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: CholeraJoe

A number of years ago one of the Blue Angels last names was “Packer”, you can probably guess what his nickname was....

LOL, my stepdad flew A-4’s, and my diesel boat sub Uncle ALWAYS had nice things to say... ;)


40 posted on 02/11/2011 3:45:14 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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