'Gay Conservative' Is an Oxymoron

Townhall.com ^ | February 14, 2011 | Star Parker

[Daveinyork]

Should the states also outlaw business on Sunday? they all did that too, until the 1970’s, and 1980’s.

[little jeremiah]

Oh yeah?

Making any and all drugs legal, any and all prostitution legal, homosexual marriage, adoption and any and all “gay” rights legal, and any and all pornography legal Iincluding anywhere, such as on buses) is the “heart of conservatism”?

Those agendas are part of the official Libertarian Party platform.

[Daveinyork]

Talking Federal here, the states can do as their constitutions permit, but where in the Constitution does the Federal goverment get the authority to do any of that?

[little jeremiah]

States? States can outlaw business on Sunday if the people in the State want to. They vote for State legislators and have referenda.

If they want to, why not? You think States should be forbidden from making a law like that?

[DBeers]

Let’s cut to the chase here, do you want the government to outlaw sodomy?

Again a question that seems falsely premised. How about the government carry out the will of the people? That would be refreshing. Many people would outlaw homosexual sex just as they do now outlaw any number or morally bankrupt activities. The People are where the power comes from NOT the government.

As far as the 'legality' of homosexual sex goes OTHER than the same privacy penumbra that baby killers hide under where exactly does this right to engage in homosexual sex come from? If not from the Creator or from the people THEN WHERE does the government get such authority?

[Daveinyork]

That created a problem of religious freedom, and the First Amendment, but if the states Constitutions permit, they can do it, but that isn’t what I asked. I asked if you think they should.

[little jeremiah]

States or fedgov wasn’t the point. The point is that those agendas are part of the Official Libertarian Party Platform.

Which you state is the “heart of conservatism”.

[Daveinyork]

I asked the opinion of whoever I was replying to, just the opinion.

[little jeremiah]

I really don’t care if they do or not. Doesn’t hurt me either way.

[Daveinyork]

I’m not a member of that party. I’m sure you will find a lot of things that Republicans do that you don’t agree with. Are you a Republican?

[little jeremiah]

Okay, so you don’t agree with the official Libertarian Party Platform? What part or parts that I listed above do you disagree with?

[DJ MacWoW]

The Founding Fathers thought it should be outlawed. Washington called it Infamous Crimes and had a soldier drummed out for sodomy. I actually support the men who wrote the Constitution. Should sodomy be illegal? Yes. Public sodomy should be a jailable offense. No more homosexual parades. Keep it out of the courts and the schools.

[Daveinyork]

“I really don’t care if they do or not. Doesn’t hurt me either way.”

then, what’s your point? If you don’t want to ban it, then why are you and your friends screaming about it. Maybe if you don’t care if they ban it, you are encouraging it.

[DJ MacWoW]

Libertarians are social liberals.

[little jeremiah]

You like libertarianism but don’t like the LP platform?

You should make yourself clear.

[SeeSac]

I have homosexual friends who would prefer less government involvement, fiscal responsibility, a reduction in federal mandates, and a host of other concerns that are similar to my own. That does not make them conservative, though, as they believe in and practice something that is antithetical to one of the bedrock principles of conservatism.

Just curious. Which bedrock principles of conservatism?

[little jeremiah]

Are you on drugs?

I was clearly replying to your query about whether State governments could make a law closing businesses on Sundays.

Do you know how to post comments, check replies, and so on?

[SeeSac]

she was born in 1949

By 1949, the word 'gay' had already been linked to homosexuals for several decades.

[HushTX]

Perhaps my statement was rather presumptuous. I shouldn’t make such claims, as I don’t speak for anyone other than myself.

That said, I was referring to the importance of family values, which I consider to include marriage being between one man and one woman.

While all but one have avoided any vocal support for the concept of homosexual marriage, the very nature of their homosexuality provides a potential opposition to the institution of marriage.

[Daveinyork]

Sorry, I’m at work, and switching back and forth between productive endeavors and posting. I was trying to get a feel for the consensus about how far government should go in enforcing moral behavior.

Liberals go as far as they can in enforcing their own morality - recycling, saving the planet, hate speech, gun control etc. I’m just looking to see if being a conservative means the same thing to the people I’m corresponding with. Does it just depend on whose morality the government is enforcing?