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(starting at 45:26 into the 51:19 interview)
Dian Rehms question to James Hansen (NASA): Are you calling for trials for energy company executives. James Hanses says, CEOs are guilty of crimes against humanity if they continue to dispute what is understood scientifically and continue to fund contrarians.
In closing remarks to an annual conference of around 300 scientific civil servants on 3 February, in London, Beddington said that selective use of science ought to be treated in the same way as racism and homophobia. We are grossly intolerant, and properly so, of racism. We are grossly intolerant, and properly so, of people who [are] anti-homosexuality...We are notand I genuinely think we should think about how we do thisgrossly intolerant of pseudo-science, the building up of what purports to be science by the cherry-picking of the facts and the failure to use scientific evidence and the failure to use scientific method, he said.
Beddington said he intends to take this agenda forward with his fellow chief scientists and also with the research councils. I really believe that... we need to recognise that this is a pernicious influence, it is an increasingly pernicious influence and we need to be thinking about how we can actually deal with it.
I really would urge you to be grossly intolerant...We should not tolerate what is potentially something that can seriously undermine our ability to address important problems.
There are enough difficult and important problems out there without having to deal with what is politically or morally or religiously motivated nonsense.
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Ben Goldacre, a science journalist and medical doctor, agrees. Society has been far too tolerant of politicians, lobbyists, and journalists wilfully misusing science, distorting evidence by cherry-picking data that suits their view, giving bogus authority to people who misrepresent the absolute basics of science, and worse, he told Research Fortnight. This distorted evidence has real world implications, because people need good evidence to make informed decisions on policy, health, and more. Beddington is frustrated, and rightly so: for years Ive had journalists and politicians repeatedly try to brush my concerns on these issues under the carpet."
Scientists need to fight back, he says.
In closing, Beddington said: Id urge you, and this is a kind of strange message to go out, but go out and be much more intolerant. He asked his audience to forgive him for what appear to have been unscripted remarks, adding: But it is a thing that has been very much at the forefront of my mind over the last few months and I think we need to do it.