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Florida’s Scott Rejects Tampa-Orlando High-Speed Rail Line
NYT ^ | : February 16, 2011 | Timothy Williams

Posted on 02/16/2011 10:56:25 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

Gov. Rick Scott of Florida on Wednesday rejected plans for a high speed rail line between Tampa and Orlando, in the process turning down $2 billion in federal funds and a key piece of President Obama’s goal of building a national high-speed rail network.

Florida is the third state with a newly elected Republican governor to turn down a portion of the administration’s high-speed rail project, joining John Kasich of Ohio and Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; boondoggle; fl; florida; highspeedrail; johnkasich; rail; rickscott; scottwalker; trains; willie
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"...it would cost the state too much even with $2.4 billion in federal help.

Cost overruns could put Florida on the hook for another $3 billion and once completed, there's a good chance ridership won't pay for the operating cost, meaning the state would have to pump more money into the line each year, Scott said.

"The truth is that this project would be far too costly to taxpayers and I believe the risk far outweighs the benefits," the Republican governor said in a press release issued after he informed U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood of his decision.

LaHood later released a statement that contradicted Scott's assessment of the risk.

"We worked with the governor to make sure we eliminated all financial risk for the state, instead requiring private businesses competing for the project to assume cost overruns and operating expenses," he said.

So no one rides, worst case secario; and it's the competing/winning private business owner's financial responsibility to provide for the 'unknown'"?

Plus.. for the elderly who can't drive; however, or won't, after the death panel decides "the bat" has better vision.

1 posted on 02/16/2011 10:56:29 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
instead requiring private businesses competing for the project to assume cost overruns and operating expenses,

And what happens when the overruns and low ridership costs are in the billions? Then the private company declares bankruptcy and sticks the expenses back on the state. Or else the company is sufficiently politically connected to get a huge bailout.

2 posted on 02/16/2011 10:59:29 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Let us pray that all newly elected governors act in this manner.

Chris Christie lit the path.

Now let’s see how many newly elected governors follow it.

Fight Obama and his administration and their agenda at every level of government possible.


3 posted on 02/16/2011 11:04:26 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: KarlInOhio

Too bac that Jerry Brown hasn’t the cojones to turn down the money for a high speed rail in Calif.

That is a long state- & the ridership will NEVER support the rail line. Period.


4 posted on 02/16/2011 11:06:37 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: fight_truth_decay

Tampa->Orlando = Big airport to Disney...


5 posted on 02/16/2011 11:09:34 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Because Florida is so decentralized, riding a train from Tampa to Orlando or vice versa and then having to rent a car to get around makes no sense at all.


6 posted on 02/16/2011 11:10:35 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: KarlInOhio
"the private company declares bankruptcy" ..good pt KarlinOhio.
7 posted on 02/16/2011 11:16:09 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: ridesthemiles

CA is crazy if they think the san fran line will work. Pop density isn’t near what it is in Japan or even on the east coast.

I pity you folks. You’ll be shelling out for this white elephant 50 years from now.


8 posted on 02/16/2011 11:17:04 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Good news here in Florida.


9 posted on 02/16/2011 11:17:42 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I just called Gov. Scotts office and thanked him for standing up against special interests and standing up for the taxpayers.


10 posted on 02/16/2011 11:19:48 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather ("Kick The Communists Out Of Your Govt. And Don't Accept Their Goodies"-Yuri Bezmenov-KGB Defector)
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You’ll be shelling out for this white elephant 50 years from now.

Somehow I feel we would be tapped as well..If Disney, for example; wants high speed rail or a casino group, then it becomes their privately owned company and they assume all the risks.

"Adopt a highspeed rr" or The Google Train takes to the rails.

11 posted on 02/16/2011 11:22:18 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Since the states have to pitch in a percentage, don’t the left understand 20% of a loss IS STILL A LOSS ?


12 posted on 02/16/2011 11:25:30 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: fight_truth_decay

I don’t understand that at all. The density is just not there in Florida. It boggles me.

Even the Acala line is difficult. They only have 1/3rd the density of the Tokyo/Osaka line.


13 posted on 02/16/2011 11:34:14 AM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


14 posted on 02/16/2011 11:37:31 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase

There was NO train station at Tampa Airport...it might have been built sometinme later on..


15 posted on 02/16/2011 11:39:29 AM PST by ken5050 (Admin Moderators rule!!!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Because Florida is so decentralized, riding a train from Tampa to Orlando or vice versa and then having to rent a car to get around makes no sense at all.

Exactly. Not many realize how big Florida is. To get from Key West to Pensacola is about the same distance as it is to get from Detroit to Boston, MA. And speaking of Detroit, Pensacola, FL is further west than Detroit, MI.

16 posted on 02/16/2011 12:09:05 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Only two things come from Texas and I see you're wearing an "I Heart Austin" t-shirt)
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To: Joe Brower

I wasn’t gonna ride it. I’d have to leave my car in Tampa where it would get stolen. I worked at an auto claims co. in Tampa and while we were adjusting claims inside, our cars were being stolen from our pkg lot and we even had a guard.


17 posted on 02/16/2011 12:11:29 PM PST by floriduh voter (I miss my flip flops and summer clothes. Mr. Weatherman, do something!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Same with Texas. There is a really nice train that goes from downtown Fort Worth to Downtown Dallas. However to get where you are going you have to take another bus or train and it is just too difficult.


18 posted on 02/16/2011 12:16:20 PM PST by lone star annie
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To: sheikdetailfeather

send a note of support to gov scott—

http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/


19 posted on 02/16/2011 12:22:43 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Ev Reeman
Chris Christie lit the path

People need to keep an eye on Paul LePage the new governor in Maine..successful business background, popular mayor..coming from living in doorways as a child [abuse] in Maine, later with 2 different families who opened their doors, still attending school-college: and some believe you are born poor and will remain poor--

20 posted on 02/16/2011 12:35:22 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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