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What's at Stake in Wisconsin's Budget Battle
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2/19/2011 | John Fund

Posted on 02/19/2011 6:54:05 AM PST by Lakeshark

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To: FrankR

In other words, FAILURE.


21 posted on 02/19/2011 7:29:00 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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22 posted on 02/19/2011 7:29:54 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: Lakeshark
And in 1959, Wisconsin became the first state to grant public employees collective-bargaining rights, which influenced President John F. Kennedy's decision to grant federal employees the right to join unions three years later.

For everybody who thinks JFK was a conservative.

23 posted on 02/19/2011 7:30:55 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Lakeshark

It is a lose-lose for the unions anyway. If they win and stop these reforms, they are going to bankrupt their cash cow anyway. Soon gov’t employees will be hated when the middle class taspayers they are fleecing are starving. What part of, there is no money do they not understand? Greedy bastards.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 7:32:02 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Popman
Facing a $137 million budget deficit, he has decided to try to avoid laying off 5,500 state workers by proposing that they contribute 5.8% of their income towards their pensions and 12.6% towards health insurance

Considering the pain most other people have endured from loss of jobs, the leveling of salaries and actual cutting of salaries that has gone on for the average person, what the unions are asking for is outrageous.

I just hope the outrage can get communicated to most other Americans who don't know the truth about the situation up there.

25 posted on 02/19/2011 7:33:47 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
"I support the poor oppressed 5% of workers in Wisconsin who are forced to get by on a measly $100,000 a year, plus the indignity of receiving gold-plated pension, dental, and medical plans insulated from inflation."

- President Obama


26 posted on 02/19/2011 7:34:07 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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27 posted on 02/19/2011 7:35:11 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Lakeshark
Hey Democrats, I quote that great theologian you like so much: "We won, you lost!" -obamma

Now get the hell out of our way and let us fix your damn mess!

28 posted on 02/19/2011 7:36:34 AM PST by rawhide
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To: SE Mom
So basically, the union(s) would rather thousands of THEIR workers get laid off than to allow any cuts in wages and/or benefits.

Chris Christie pointed this out when the teachers squealed about what he was doing.

Christie won that round with some youtubes that went viral.

I sure hope the Wisconsin gov can communicate the simplicity of the issue and make the lefties look like the greedy fools they are.

29 posted on 02/19/2011 7:41:55 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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[It’s only good news if we can take the narrative away from them. The media has done its best to report it from the point of view of the unions]

Maybe Governor Walker should present it to Wisconsin voters this way, it is either this bill to limit public sector unions salaries, benefits, and power or a 50% tax increase on you to pay for their fat cat salary and benefits. Take you pick. Or maybe, in order to pay for the greedy public sector employees demanded inflated salaries and benefits, we will have to cut food stamps, Medicaid, road and highway funds, and for the upkeep of schools and parks. Play the liberals games. Their greedy demands will live children starving and uneducated. They are taking money off your childrens dinner table so they can live the high life. And btw, it is their corrupt relationship with Democrat politicians that has made this all possible!

How about, every union boss salary takes food from the table of ?? working familes.


30 posted on 02/19/2011 7:42:25 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Lakeshark

Hope they keep it up - the backlash from sensible American voters will crush the union thugs and anyone they support.


32 posted on 02/19/2011 7:47:37 AM PST by Jukeman
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To: KansasGirl
Their greedy demands will live children starving and uneducated. They are taking money off your childrens dinner table so they can live the high life.

Wouldn't it be fun to watch these rats squirm under their own slimy rhetoric?

33 posted on 02/19/2011 7:47:59 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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February 16, 2011
Man Who Shot TV Over Bristol Palin’s Dancing Preps A Mental Defect Defense

The Wisconsin man (20 miles west of Madison), who was so upset by Bristol Palin’s success on “Dancing with the Stars” that he blasted his TV set with a shotgun yesterday pleaded not guilty to criminal charges and indicated that he will mount a defense based on the claim that he has a mental disease or defect....

Read more at:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/bristol-palin/man-who-shot-tv-over-bristol-palin%E2%80%99s-dancing-preps-mental-defect-defense


34 posted on 02/19/2011 7:48:34 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: gusopol3

[And in 1959, Wisconsin became the first state to grant public employees collective-bargaining rights, which influenced President John F. Kennedy’s decision to grant federal employees the right to join unions three years later.]

Wasn’t this done by executive order? What I don’t understand is why no Republican President has reversed it.


35 posted on 02/19/2011 7:50:00 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Lakeshark

Unions are making crony capitalists look like schoolboys.

I listened to Walker yesterday - he’s got a no-nonsense manner and communicates very well. His personality isn’t like Christie- but there wasn’t any pandering, weakness or talking points either. He’s got “it”.


36 posted on 02/19/2011 7:52:24 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Nothing scares Union leaders more than the threat to not collect Union Dues from paychecks for them.

Not getting the dues by any means scares them. Back in the '60s a buddy of mine worked in a small unionized foundry where the owner was screwing them left and right - and the union did nothing. The union members all withheld their next payment of dues in protest.

The next day a suit, accompanied by two human mountains called Mr. Lefty and Mr. Fingers showed up to "straighten things out". The rebellious members told the suit that they weren't going to pay any more dues until the union went to bat for them. Mr. Lefty says, "If youse guys don't pay up, there's gonna be an 'industrial accident' here". All the guys grabbed some BIG mallets (used to knock open the molds) and replied they wouldn't be the only ones who had an "accident".

The suit steps in between the guys and says everything will be taken care of now, so just go back to work - and pay your dues. Nothing ever changed and my buddy quit in disgust.

37 posted on 02/19/2011 7:53:06 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Lakeshark

"Ideas have consequences"

- Weaver

Americans who, in 2008, voted for abstract, fill-in-the-blanks concepts of "hope" and "change" might have dug a little deeper into the philosophy upon which those concepts were based. They might have explored the associations and the voting record of the one who promised, instead of substituting their own hopes and dreams for his illusory promises.

The ideas of Mao, Marx, and Lenin, implemented with the strategies of Alinsky, cannot be expected to yield liberty, opportunity, and plenty. On the other hand, a pledge of return to the principles of liberty expressed in America's Declaration of Independence, the 1787 Constitution, and the 200-year history of American freedom, accompanied by a record of study of those ideas and a voting record which supported the promise, would have been a better foundation for measuring a leader worthy of the role.

"I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple, applying all the possible savings of the public revenue to the discharge of the national debt; and not for a multiplication of officers and salaries merely to make partisans, and for increasing by every device the public debt on the principle of its being a public blessing." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:77

38 posted on 02/19/2011 7:58:26 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: SE Mom
I listened to Walker yesterday - he’s got a no-nonsense manner and communicates very well. His personality isn’t like Christie- but there wasn’t any pandering, weakness or talking points either. He’s got “it”.

Same analysis as mine. Before hearing him, I expected the R's to fold. Not anymore.

A victory for the taxpayers against the teacher union thugs. It feels like a dream.

39 posted on 02/19/2011 7:58:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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It sounds like you know the history better than I do. I’ve been disgusted through the years at the number of Republican politicians who have relatives in government employment, maybe that’s most of the answer. I know it seems here in DE that officeholders of either party consider their main constituency to b the public employees rather that the tax-payers. maybe that’s a consequence of their voting in higher percentage than the general public in low turnout elections like primaries.


40 posted on 02/19/2011 8:01:43 AM PST by gusopol3
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