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Merkel deplores, EADS angry over US tanker contract
Deutsche Presse-Agentur (DPA) ^ | Feb 25, 2011

Posted on 02/25/2011 7:16:37 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Merkel deplores, EADS angry over US tanker contract

Berlin/Paris - German Chancellor Angela Merkel deplored Friday Washington's decision to award a 35-billion-dollar tanker contract to Boeing Co instead of rival European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co.

A Merkel spokesman, Steffen Seibert, said an opportunity had been missed to improve the partnership between the European Union and the United States. But he said Berlin would not be taking any action and it was up to EADS and its US partners to analyse what had happened.

The contract to build 179 Boeing KC-46A planes is one of the largest in the Defence Department's history. The Pentagon announced Thursday Boeing had won the first phase of a three-phase contract that could reach a value of 100 billion dollars.

In Munich, EADS chief executive Louis Gallois said he was 'disappointed and astounded' at the Pentagon decision.

A spokesman quoted him telling a telephone conference, 'We missed our chance.' He insisted the business future for EADS remained solid and it would try to develop US sales by other paths. He mentioned US orders for military helicopters as a hope for the future.

Asked if EADS would file an appeal against the tender award, Gallois said EADS would wait till after a conversation with the Pentagon scheduled for this Monday before deciding its next step.

A senior German Economics Ministry official said he still held out hope that the ruling was not final, though Berlin would not interfere.

(Excerpt) Read more at monstersandcritics.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; eads; germany; tanker

1 posted on 02/25/2011 7:16:42 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

waaaa...


2 posted on 02/25/2011 7:19:30 PM PST by steel_resolve (Boycott Made In China Garbage)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Come on boys, you have to add some greenbacks, I mean skin in the game.


3 posted on 02/25/2011 7:19:40 PM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

WTO: Boeing Received Some $24 Billion in Illegal Subsidies From U.S. Government

By Curtis Cartier, Mon., Jan. 31 2011

The latest ruling in the Europe/America-gives-illegal-money-to-its-principal-aircraft-manufacturer saga has been handed down. And the score stands at 1-1.

The AP reports today that the World Trade Organization has released a report to U.S. and European officials that shows that Boeing received almost $24 billion in illegal subsides from the U.S. government in the form of free services, research grants, and the use of technology.

The findings come almost a year after the same organization found that European countries were doing pretty much the same thing with Boeing’s main competitor, Airbus.

The report hasn’t been made public yet, and likely won’t be for several more months.

On cue, an Airbus spokesperson swooped in to blast Boeing and its wicked doings. Per AP:

“From today, Boeing can no longer pretend that it doesn’t benefit from generous and illegal state subsidies. It has been doing so from the start and it’s time to stop the denial,” said Rainer Ohler, Airbus’s head of public affairs and communications.

Both Airbus and Boeing have appealed previous rulings, as they each seem not to relish the idea of a trade organization rifling through their government-subsidy accounting.

But with trillions of dollars in aircraft contracts up for grabs, it seems unlikely that the under-the-table financing will cease, but rather that people will just get sneakier about it.
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/01/wto_boeing_received_24_billion.php


4 posted on 02/25/2011 7:24:26 PM PST by bronxville
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pi$$ on EADES - Boeing is an American company...this should be American business.


5 posted on 02/25/2011 7:25:32 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought the EADS deal would generate jobs in America as well.

They couldnt be lying to us could they?


6 posted on 02/25/2011 7:26:16 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Here are some of Boeing’s lobbyists (many of whom may never have lobbied on the tanker deal):

* Former Rep. Bill Paxon
* Former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt
* Linda Daschle, wife of former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle
* Scoop Jackson aide Denny Miller
* Former Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Stewart Verdery
* Tony Podesta
* Former Obama aide Oscar Ramirez
* Former House Approps Spokesman John Scofield
* Former Bush Treasury Aide Tara Bradshaw

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/02/who-were-boeings-lobbyists#ixzz1F21JGuG7


7 posted on 02/25/2011 7:27:17 PM PST by bronxville
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To: driftdiver

There would have been close to 2000 jobs here in Mobile (which BTW is a part of the US) and 48,000 jobs nationwide. But all one has to remember - Obama, Chicago, Boeing.....welcome to the corrupt Chicago political machine now firmly in place in DC.....


8 posted on 02/25/2011 7:29:41 PM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: bronxville

Boeing is no different than Government Motors. Look at the virtual fence that didn’t work. That was a billion dollar boondoggle that Boeing’s friends in DC gave it.


9 posted on 02/25/2011 7:33:59 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: bronxville

Boeing is no different than Government Motors. Look at the virtual fence that didn’t work. That was a billion dollar boondoggle that Boeing’s friends in DC gave it.


10 posted on 02/25/2011 7:34:08 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: BamaDi

EADS is European owned, thats all I need to know. I don’t doubt that Boeing worked the angle through Chicago. I’m also quite sure that EADS was working their angles.


11 posted on 02/25/2011 7:35:57 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BamaDi
There would have been close to 2000 jobs here in Mobile (which BTW is a part of the US) and 48,000 jobs nationwide. But all one has to remember - Obama, Chicago, Boeing.....welcome to the corrupt Chicago political machine now firmly in place in DC.....

The Tanker award is a disgrace.

12 posted on 02/25/2011 7:36:33 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: BamaDi
[. . .welcome to the corrupt Chicago political machine now firmly in place in DC.....]

Obama went to Copenhagen in 2009 in a useless attempt to persuade the Olympic Committee to put the 2016 Olympics in Chicago. Before leaving Washington Obama knew Rio de Janeiro was a done deal and he wasn't going to change the Committee's mind. But his bosses in Chicago told him to get his skinny butt on the plane and try anyway no matter how weak and stupid he might look. People in the Chicago political machine had millions to gain by landing the Olympics.

13 posted on 02/25/2011 7:51:04 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: bronxville

EU has been screwing US corporations for years- looks like payback time.


14 posted on 02/25/2011 7:51:37 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Only American companies should be allowed to bid on Department of Defense requirements. That needs to be codified into law!!
15 posted on 02/25/2011 7:54:18 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: BamaDi

I keep hearing this accusation. It’s time to put up or shut up. 0bama is corrupt and so is Chicago, but that doesn’t automatically mean that this contract award is corrupt. I don’t see American or EU whining over the fact that Russia only awards their military aircraft contracts to 3 companies: Tupolev, Sukhoi, and Mickoyan-Guerevich.

The fact that EADS isn’t going through with a protest should tell you something. They were so blatantly the Air Force’s fair-haired boy last time, to the point that the Air Force ran roughshod over contract law, that Boeing had a rock solid case in their protest and the Air Force made no attempt to contest the GAO’s findings.

To head off your next question: it’s true, I don’t give a fat crap if the EU or the French have a problem with this award. They can go back to France and make A380s, or go to the Jolly Pirate Donuts and take a 4-hour toilet break for all I care.


16 posted on 02/25/2011 7:59:52 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: bronxville

And I’m sure that EADS doesn’t have any lobbyists. Surely they don’t wine and dine any American dignitaries that vacation in France.


17 posted on 02/25/2011 8:03:07 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: bwc2221

When Northrop-Grumman, partnered with EADS, got the contract award last time, people all over FR were madder than snot about it. It just goes to show, you’re going to have your angry detractors crying corruption (true or not) no matter who wins.

Boeing won the protest last go-round, so it’s been proven that it is possible to successfully protest. If EADS has such a superior design and they were oh-so-screwed, why aren’t they protesting?


18 posted on 02/25/2011 8:08:48 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: BamaDi

Instead of whining you should be looking for ways to entice Boeing to build plants in Alabama.


19 posted on 02/25/2011 8:09:31 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86
The facilities were already there at Brookley Air Base. It was closed as an Air Force base in the 60s.
20 posted on 02/25/2011 8:17:32 PM PST by Know et al
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To: sukhoi-30mki
- Senator John McCain talking at a stop on Tuesday in St. Louis. - He took credit for breaking a tanker deal with Boeing in 2004. - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/12/us/politics/12tanker.html
21 posted on 02/25/2011 8:31:44 PM PST by bronxville
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To: All

The NYSlimes, of course, reprinted it during the 2008 campaign.


22 posted on 02/25/2011 8:33:08 PM PST by bronxville
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To: bwc2221

What? You are comparing GM with Boeing? Details, please.


23 posted on 02/25/2011 8:43:04 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How do you say “Bite me!” in French and German?


24 posted on 02/25/2011 8:43:22 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is there a Western European nation whose national airline awarded a contract to Boeing for the bulk of their commercial airliners. Of course not, they all order Airbus. Suck it up Europe. What comes around, goes around.


25 posted on 02/25/2011 8:49:41 PM PST by chuckee
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is there a Western European nation whose national airline awarded a contract to Boeing for the bulk of their commercial airliners. Of course not, they all order Airbus. Suck it up Europe. What comes around, goes around.


26 posted on 02/25/2011 8:50:19 PM PST by chuckee
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To: FreeReign

The Tanker award is a disgrace.


Yep. It was STOLEN! Unions and sleazy politicians cheated the rightful winner.


27 posted on 02/25/2011 10:52:36 PM PST by boycott (CAL)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Enjoy your overpriced tankers, American taxpayers!

Yeah, EADS had a better product and would have created more than a thousand non-union jobs in Alabama. But Boeing had more tame Congressmen.

Boeing got feather-bedded here. They have no incentive to build a better product: all they need to do to win tenders is to own more politicans and wave a flag. Disgusting.

But watch as some FReepers cheer this ‘victory’.


28 posted on 02/26/2011 1:25:03 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: agere_contra

That’s a point a lot of folks seem to be missing. Boeing is about as bloated and inefficient as Airbus/EADS can be. And what makes it worse is that it’s captive domestic market is several times that of the EADS. And it’s gotten bigger two days ago.


29 posted on 02/26/2011 3:50:30 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: agere_contra

Of course, the one reason why I would support Boeing not LOSING this contract is the importance of having retaining American resources in a vital field.


30 posted on 02/26/2011 3:52:00 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: chuckee
Is there a Western European nation whose national airline awarded a contract to Boeing for the bulk of their commercial airliners.

British Airways is almost entirely Boeing, has been for many years.

31 posted on 02/26/2011 5:05:14 AM PST by Winniesboy
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To: bronxville
That's a BS argument.

It's simply a counter accusation with no real basis but grabs the headlines and obfuscate the issue.

Airbus for years has been receiving massive subsidies. Boeing receiving defense contracts for dedicated defense platforms as does EADS hardly represents a subsidy as Airbus receives for the development of airframes intended for the commercial market. Hell, the origin of the organization Airbus, it's CREATION is from state money and the merging of nationally owned aerospace firms and the entire business model of Airbus rewards those nations who subsidize by basing manufacturing there. The more you subsidize, the more manufacturing is based in your country. Years past it was near gross watching how Airbus was given preferential treatment by all the at that time nationally held airlines that of course bought the nationally owned and subsidized airplane builders plane........ At Frankfurt International, an airport majority owned by the combination of federal, state of Hessen and city of Frankfurt so called private business, you of course have the hub for Lufthansa (until the late 90s a nationally owned firm) and hangers paid for through tax money.......it's sick and you see politicians within the European political sphere go back and forth within the EADS/Airbus worlds because in reality this is pseudo private firm. No, EADS/Airbus is an obscenity, a disgusting example of where government is in bed with business and Boeing for decades has not had a fair shake in Europe. That alone is reason for a big “nein” or “non” and them complaining is ironic.

32 posted on 03/01/2011 10:34:57 PM PST by Red6
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To: FreeReign
The Tanker award is a disgrace.

Completely!

33 posted on 03/01/2011 10:38:30 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!.....and no, I'm not changing my tagline! Pray for Sarah and her family)
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To: Winniesboy

Sort of.

Many of these airlines, like Lufthansa, Air France, etc indeed were nationally or still are nationally owned in some cases. Boeing products of course still sold since Airbus for the logest time didn’t have airframes that met specific demands in capcity, range etc (They started out with smaller and short range airframes), but especially in the past when you had a greater nationalized air carrier system in Europe you did see a strong Airbus bias among them.


34 posted on 03/01/2011 10:39:14 PM PST by Red6
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To: elpadre

Maybe you are right, maybe you’re not, but it isn’t the law.


35 posted on 03/01/2011 10:45:50 PM PST by Eva
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To: elpadre
Only American companies should be allowed to bid on Department of Defense requirements. That needs to be codified into law!!

Uhh, it is. The "Buy American" Act of 1933, as amended in 1981 requires the U.S. to treat firms based in NATO countries the same as U.S.-based companies.

36 posted on 03/01/2011 10:57:36 PM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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