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Posted on 02/25/2011 9:24:15 PM PST by Salvation
Yesterday the Virginia House of Delegates approved a bill that would hold abortion clinics to the same medical standards as hospitals, and so result in the closing of the majority of clinics operating in the State. Some estimate that 17 of 21 clinics would have to close. The bill was passed as an amendment to a bill already approved by the Virginia State Senate, where the abortion clinic provision would have been killed in committee if it had gone through normal channels.
A Constitutional challenge is certain, so it remains to be seen whether the new law will ever have its desired effect. It is interesting, however, to see both pro-lifers and pro-aborts try to seize the moral high ground by expressing their attitudes toward the bill more or less exclusively in terms of women’s health.
Everybody knows that those who worked to pass the bill did so primarily to restrict abortion, and that those who oppose the bill oppose it primarily to keep abortion both cheap and common. It is a judgment on our society that neither side can actually come out and say what it wants, at least not in the context of the particular tactic being used in this instance, which is to emphasize that abortion is a medical procedure that should be held to the same high standards as other comparable medical procedures.
There are no medical procedures comparable to abortion, of course, but it goes without saying that the argument is couched in language that recognizes the dangers of the procedure to the mother only. It wouldn’t do for pro-lifers to give the courts grounds to suspect that their real intention here is to eliminate abortion, rather than to impose high health standards for the sake of women. Nor would it do for pro-aborts to let on that they don’t give a fig for the health of women as long as abortion can be kept widely available. Thus the rhetoric:
It is not about banning abortions. It is simply caring for women who are about to have an invasive surgical procedure and creating an environment for them where they have the opportunity to do that in a place that is safe. – Sen. Jill Vogel, R-Winchester
Absolutely all that will be accomplished by this vote is to restrict access to a safe and legal procedure to poor women. This does nothing to end abortions. It is purely discriminatory. It makes me heartsick. – Sen. Mary Margaret Whipple, D-Arlington
For over 25 years, Virginia abortion clinics have not been held to minimal health and safety standards. As a result, women who walk into these clinics are often not treated with the care and respect that any human being deserves. – Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli
This is not about safety for women. This is about ideology, and this is about politics. The women of the commonwealth are going to be the ones left to suffer. – Tarina Keene, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia
It is a shame that this battle cannot be fought clearly on the grounds that it is gravely evil to murder an unborn baby, who has a right to life equal to that of his or her mother. But that’s not to say that nobody is genuinely concerned about the health and safety of women who make use of abortion clinics. After all, abortion would never be so unregulated if it weren’t a sacred political cow in the first place.
So this is politics, and politics is always the art of the possible. When what you want to accomplish isn’t possible in one context, you introduce it again in another context. And you keep doing that until you get a toehold. You keep doing that until you win. Those who have adopted this strategy must stay the course. And if it doesn’t work this time, they must unashamedly go back to the political well and try again.
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Translation: It's not like most of the women getting abortions are middle class white women. This is all about halting our eugenics program and letting them multiply like rabbits.
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Absolutely all that will be accomplished by this vote is to restrict access to a safe and legal procedure to poor women. This does nothing to end abortions. It is purely discriminatory. It makes me heartsick. – Sen. Mary Margaret Whipple, D-Arlington
She’s heartsick? Over the fact that there will not be as many abortions done on minority women? Margaret Sanger anyone?
Why isn’t she heartsick over the loss of life within these clinics? I’m “heartsick” over that. What a choice of words!
“a bill that would hold abortion clinics to the same medical standards as hospitals, and so result in the closing of the majority of clinics operating in the State.”
Makes you wonder about what happened to all the Hospitals if the standards are that prohibitive. No wonder health-care costs so much in Virgina.
I wonder if an unintended consequence might not be the flourishing of abortion clinics in VA. If I were a woman who lived in DC/MD/NC/WV/PA/DE or any nearby state, and I were contemplating an abortion, I might think my safety would be worth the trip to VA.
I would say that Margaret Sanger would not be too pleased with this development.
Whether it goes anywhere or not is not the issue. The fact that it is brought to the public’s awareness is newsworthy.
Pray for an end to abortion in the United States (or else our country is going down the tubes.)
In any case, they should be held to the same standards as surgical clinics.Then they could do more than kill babies.
I would hate to judge, but I would think that Margaret Sanger would be too pleased with nothing more thn an electric fan and a cool glass of Iced Tea. I imagine that if I was to bump into her after I shake this mortal coil, I may have made a significant error in judgment while alive.
I would hate to judge, but I would think that Margaret Sanger would be too pleased with nothing more than an electric fan and a cool glass of Iced Tea. I imagine that if I was to bump into her after I shake this mortal coil, I may have made a significant error in judgment while alive.
approved a bill that would hold abortion clinics to the same medical standards as hospitals.
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Does that mean they would have to scrub the floor daily, and take out the trash onoccasion?
What is wrong with holding an abortion clinic to the same standards as a hospital? That should have been the rule all along.
"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.""No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Would you fool around with requiring Hitler to provide antiseptic concentration camps?
The Ten Comandments are in Bronze on the doors of the Supreme Court and serve as a basis of our laws.
The 10 Commandments
Thou shalt not have other gods besides Me
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain
Remember to keep holy the Lord’s day
Honor thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods
Yet our legal system is ignoring, changing or not following the basic laws given by GOD.
As Catholics, we need to reaffirm these laws and follow them. Thus setting the example of a positive spiritual life for others.
Good for VA - and the Cooch (our AG)!
Abortion is so “sacrosanct” that even a face lift procedure is more regulated than abortion...
When you have no regulation, you get butchers like that dr. dude in PA...
Womens’ equal protection and liberation, my a**....
For over 25 years, Virginia abortion clinics have not been held to minimal health and safety standards. As a result, women who walk into these clinics are often not treated with the care and respect that any human being deserves. – Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli
Now that in itself is just plain wrong.
From that I get the idea that Delicatessens and Restaurants are held to higher 'Health Standards'. And local Butcher Shops (no pun) would also be held to higher 'Safety Standards'.
How anyone can defend that is beyond me. It's reprehensible!
(So much for abortion being all about 'Woman's Health'. This is a 'Back Alley Abortion' without the Alley.)
Barber Shops and delicatessans/restaurants are far cleaner ,, how many restaurants can you name where the kitchens have filthy carpeting harboring disease and crud and spills... where the kitchen knives and tools (lets assume they are supposed to be single use) are re-used repeatedly and never washed (unless a quick rinse that does nothing to kill germs counts in your book) until they fall apart and must be replaced and where the staff KNOWS that they will never have a visit from a health inspector... and your table and chair look as if a 3 year old just had lunch there..
But my favorite if that most use a common kitchen garbage disposal to destroy and discard the remains... that means that “parts” are aerosolized and soak into every crevice of the building feeding the bacteria , mold and related pathogens...
I wonder if an unintended consequence might not be the flourishing of abortion clinics in VA. If I were a woman who lived in DC/MD/NC/WV/PA/DE or any nearby state, and I were contemplating an abortion, I might think my safety would be worth the trip to VA.
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You’re probably right ,, I can see that happening ,, and that’s OK ,,, we just need to get similar legislation enacted in every state ... at the very least it’ll drive up costs. I think it’ll benefit PP more than anyone ,, they have the money to comply ,, most “independants” will struggle..
I personally think that the biggest area of attack is $$$$ ,, I’m sure they underreport “sales” and once controls are in place where we KNOW they are using a fresh cannula for each patient it’s a simple matter to see they report 30 sales but used 45 disposable devices (currently they would use only 1 or 2 for 45 patients) .. they are hiding 1/3 of sales.
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