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Snyder tax plan would be costly for thousands of Michigan residents, including many seniors
Booth Newspapers ^ | February 27, 2011 | Peter Luke

Posted on 02/27/2011 9:47:07 AM PST by madison10

The tax overhaul plan proposed by Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, shown speaking at the at the University of Michigan earlier this month, could be costly for thousands of Michigan residents.

However “simple, fair and efficient” Gov. Rick Snyder says his overhaul of Michigan’s personal income tax is, it’s still a whopper of a tax increase for hundreds of thousands of Michigan residents.

For politically active seniors, the increased tax bill could easily run into the thousands of dollars -- sticker-shock territory.

Michigan is only one of four states with an income tax that exempts retirement pensions from the levy. Economists have said it is fundamentally unfair to tax the income of wage-earners, but not the retirement income of seniors who rely on many of the same state services as everyone else...

(Excerpt) Read more at annarbor.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: budget; pensions; seniors; taxincreases
This is gonna be painful...
1 posted on 02/27/2011 9:47:15 AM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

So retired people just making it have to pay YET MORE to the government unions? Does Michigan have a tax-&-spend Democrat in Republican’s clothing for a governor?


2 posted on 02/27/2011 10:14:14 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: madison10
My CPA gnome and master-degreed auto gnome like the plan a lot. It shares the pain equally. by eliminatiing some of the deductions and those that are tax-exempt, one might argue that Snyder is actually moving to a more flat-tax model, ditto that what he is proposing to do to make MI more competitive via the changes to the business tax, he flattens that out quite a bit.

If you think this is bad wait...

They are rangling over what a 1.8 billion shortfall, wait until they tackle the 151 billion in long term Liabilities....

3 posted on 02/27/2011 10:23:42 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: madison10

Looks like there will be more elderly people in Michigan whom are at their winter homes in Florida, Arizona, Alabama, Arkansas and other warm states will be putting up for sale more homes in an already glutted market of foreclosed homes, abandoned homes and basically homes that the owner has just walked away from a home valued less than the mortgage. Thanks Synder. Just remember the last person to leave Michigan remember to turn the lights off.


4 posted on 02/27/2011 10:27:51 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: RoadTest
There is a reason a ton of Dems voted for him in the primary and the election. For starters, his ideal government example is the City of Ann Arbor. He has said he wants to make the whole state run like that socialist city. He also has ties to environmental groups. I would say he is the most liberal Republican governor in the Nation today. I tried to warn others not to vote for him in the primary, but he ran a clever campaign and put up an ad asking for Dems to cross over in the primary and vote for him.
5 posted on 02/27/2011 10:50:46 AM PST by mrsixpack36
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To: madison10

Wow knowing how many retired UAW members with huge pensions there are in MI lettng them have free ride borders on criminal and makes those of us who work have to carry their load as well.


6 posted on 02/27/2011 10:58:32 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: madison10

One thing here that would make me against it is if there is any double taxation. Other than that, it seems to be a more equal system. However, it shouldn’t be cover for the fact that the tax burden need to be lowered overall through cuts in spending.


7 posted on 02/27/2011 10:59:05 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: chris_bdba
Wow knowing how many retired UAW members with huge pensions there are in MI lettng them have free ride borders on criminal and makes those of us who work have to carry their load as well.

It might surprise you to know that Illinois is another state that does not tax "pension income".

They get us in every other way imaginable though. While less progressive states consider the "sugar tax" on soda pop, Illinois has had it since Sept. 2009. That's just one example.

Last June, when I turned 65, I went to the county seat and applied for the reduced rate for seniors. I got it and it almost cut my property taxes in half for the following year, 2011. however, my property has been reassessed upwards to right back where my taxes were previously.

8 posted on 02/27/2011 11:08:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: RoadTest
Does Michigan have a tax-&-spend Democrat in Republican’s clothing for a governor?

What are you talking about? Seniors pay income tax on Social Security. Why shouldn't they pay tax on retirement payouts?

It's considered a scandal here in New York that state retirees pay no state income tax on their pensions. The truth is that everyone should pay income taxes.

And, yes, even the poor. It might make them try to think a bit before they vote.

9 posted on 02/27/2011 11:16:00 AM PST by BfloGuy
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To: madison10
Taxes should be low -- for everyone. Giving targeted tax breaks to certain people just means that the government is choosing winners and losers.

I'd rather have a 5% income tax on everyone than a 6% income tax with 0% for seniors.

Conservatives usually fight for taxes to be low, but we also need to be diligent on making sure that they are evenly applied.

Right now in CT, we don't tax Yoga or clothing (under $50) or wood pellets or other stuff. I'd rather it be equitable, and not that the government try to choose what industries it's going to effectively subsidize.

10 posted on 02/27/2011 11:39:49 AM PST by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: hondact200

let me put this into perspective.... my MIL pays no taxes on what little income she has, has no taxes withheld, yet gets a check from the state every year for a tax refund. Explain to me how this is even remotely fair....


11 posted on 02/27/2011 12:57:22 PM PST by joe fonebone (The House has oversight of the Judiciary...why are the rogue judges not being impeached?)
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To: BfloGuy

What you say might or might not be true, but to try to solve a state government’s fiscal shortfall by raising taxes is spelled D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.


12 posted on 02/27/2011 2:14:50 PM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: RoadTest

We’ll see how this goes. Although we are young (50s) we are on a fixed income/pension, wonder if we’ll survive more taxes...barely holding on as it is. Unlike the seniors, we have no SS to back us up and there are MANY like us.


13 posted on 02/27/2011 6:14:58 PM PST by madison10
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To: RoadTest

Untaxed pension is very rare among US States.

Michigan is full of UAW retirees getting stout money.

They should be paying their “fair” share


14 posted on 02/27/2011 6:19:02 PM PST by nascarnation
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