Posted on 02/27/2011 10:25:50 AM PST by docbnj
H.R. 822, introduced in the U.S. House by Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Heath Shuler (D-N.C.), would allow any person with a valid state-issued concealed firearm permit to carry a concealed firearm in any state that issues concealed firearm permits, or that does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms for lawful purposes. A state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. The bill applies to D.C., Puerto Rico and U.S. territories. It would not create a federal licensing system; rather, it would require the states to recognize each others' carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses and carry permits held by armored car guards.
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H. R. 822 does not set up a federal system. It merely means that your home-state concealed carry permit would be honored reciprocally in states which also have a permitting system — much as a driver's license is honored. It will not allow reciprocity for your out-of-state permit. That means that if you live in a benighted state like New Jersey, where it is in practice impossible for an ordinary citizen to get a permit, you would still be out of luck in your state of residence.
I like it!
Should have always been there.
—as much as I like the idea, it gets into states rights real fast—drivers licenses, incidentally IIRC, are not made reciprocal by any federal law but rather by interstate agreements-—
It will pass the House but probably stall in the Senate. Were it to go to Obummer, there would most certainly be a veto.
Progressives want only criminals and lackies to have guns.
It will pass the House but probably stall in the Senate. Were it to go to Obummer, there would most certainly be a veto.
Progressives want only criminals and lackies to have guns.
This is BS!
Why do I need any .gov permission let alone feral gubermint permission to exercise a Constitutional right?!?!?!
Constitutional Carry!!!!
... and marriage... But then again, the right to carry is part of the 2nd Amendment, so one could argue for special status.
I agree, it doesn’t make sense to support a law which is already codified in the Constitution, and the states implement it.
If we go this route, aren’t we caving into Wash DC to dispense the rights we already have?
Wouldn’t it be more prudent to reject this law, and continue the grassroots effort to elect those that would support their respective state to honor all concealed permits?
The 2nd Amendment right, like any other Constitutional right, should not be considered absolute.
For example, the right to freedom of speech does not mean that one may walk onto the floor of Congress and shout at some of the elected people there, even if they deserve it. One may not disturb by speech a public meeting, or someone else’s event (such as a religious service). One may not indulge in defamation, or false testimony. One may not perform someone else’s © work. And there are many other examples.
There are even rational restrictions on voting: by age, residence, citizenship, and criminal record.
We have a right to free practice of religion, but the religion of Moloch would not be tolerated; nor Aztec human sacrifices; nor the former Mormon practice of polygamy.
So I am quite satisfied with a sensible system of permitting the carry of concealed weapons. It would be a big step in the right direction if we had this right honored. Children should not be allowed to carry, but a citizen of age, with a clean criminal record and basic weapons knowledge, should be permitted.
Here in New Jersey, there is a system for issuing permits, but administratively, and through the courts, it has been perverted by an intentional policy of arbitrarily interpreting the law to require a “need” which probably would only be demonstrated adequately if the applicant were to show up murdered. It is an arrogant policy by the state government, and particularly by a corrupt judiciary.
Although New Jersey has no 2nd Amendment-equivalent in its state constitution, there is a very clear statement of the right to self-defense, which appears twice in Article 1, Section 1. That should strongly favor concealed carry. But what can one do with the judiciary we have, which in many cases will not support clearly written law?
Let’s pass a national Constitutional Carry law where we don’t need no steenkin’ permission from government to do so since it is a right, not a privilege!
Once Constitutional Carry passes then repeal the gun control act of 1934 that basically prohibits full-auto firearms. Then we’ll be as free as Switzerland in that respect. Maybe we could even have a nationally mandated holiday for firearms to celebrate the 2nd Amendment and get a refresher course on firearms safety and use.
Another liberal intrusion against state’s rights.
You don’t like a state’s laws? Stay out. Texas recognizes all state concealed carry permits. But I don’t like those power grabbers in DC telling us that we have to.
Yep, repeal NFA34 as amended by GCA68 and the Hughes Amendment. Get rid of the whole, stinking, "sporting purpose" Nazi-gun-control-Dodd mass.
True! However the religious sacrament of the Left, Abortion on demand, is not only tolerated but championed by the elites in the media and the government. Never let it be said that evil does not prosper in this World.
It was legal to carry, during my lifetime, without a permit, now it is gone. There are no watchmen on the wall, we have become a nation of pansies.
When we cast our votes to enslave our neighbors, how many of us think that God doesn’t mind? Sadly, probably most, even on this forum.
I agree - felons shouldn’t have carry permits, nor should
drug addicts or the mentally unstable. We don’t allow felons to vote either, which one could argue is the most basic of all rights.
WTF are NYC, New Jersy, Wisconsin, California, Massachusetts and Illinois going to do? They’re gonna S..T, thats what they’re going to do...
I am intrigued by the aside in this article to the effect that this applies to the District of Columbia. Does that mean that if I have a Texas conceal-carry permit that I can carry a concealed weapon in D.C.? If that is the case, then it is truly extraordinary; D.C. makes it difficult for its citizens to have a gun in the privacy of their homes. If this bill allows someone from Texas to tote a concealed weapon all over the District, it is a true turn of events.
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