Posted on 03/01/2011 6:11:14 AM PST by Sybeck1
Problem is, some of those White Democrats aren’t terribly different from their national brethren. I went and counted them up, and 36 of the 69 House Dems are Black (the MS House Majority Leader is Black, Tyrone Ellis, although White Dems occupy the Speakership and Speaker Pro Tempore positions). The problem the Dems have is now that Blacks have a clear-cut majority in the caucus, it’s their right to demand the party elect a Black Speaker. The GOP still has to gain 9 seats this November, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Ultimately, the GOP will win control, and after that happens, the White presence in the Democrat party (outside of the true-believing leftists from urban areas or college moonbat towns), will rapidly dwindle. It’s already happening in Georgia and Alabama (in the case of the latter, it will probably be the last time a White will occupy the position of Dem Minority Leader).
Mississippi has not changed really.
Look who they have been elected statewide for decades since the Dixiecrats left the GOP.
What is happening now is that in a locally gerrymandered state where blacks are nearly 40% and together with a less than 15%...yes...that is correct..less than 15% of whites...are finally having state politics wrested from them.
Except for maybe Lee county (Tupelo) and the Coast, blacks run all urban areas ..what few there are and towns. In the Delta ...sparsely populated but in State Senate that is of no consequence...blacks often are 3/4s or even more of the population..imagine that. How many who post here have an inkling of that sharp divison of power that the black dems have held now since the 80s.
In areas where they were a slight minority, the local white libs...some yellow dogs..some modern day collaborators..have held together a Dem machine more or less state and local wise.
Now that is crumbling thanks largely to Haley's machine efforts himself. I am unhappy with him on some culture flashpoints but in organizing he's winning in this area.
It's not like a Dem state going GOP. 88% of whites voted GOP in 2008 and that has been the trend for some time but this balancing act blacks and white libs held together there is fading.
It's not an epiphany. It's victory.
Southern whites are almost always social conservatives from the beginning of our territories onwards...you follow that you follow them. That is where Kennedy, LBJ and later Peanut Brain and the Toon kept jumping the shark.
may here lambast Lott...I got my issues with him too just like Haley but he was pivotal in Mississippi in leading the socially conservative Dixicrat bloc to the GOP in both candidates and voters.
White social conservatives were always either Dixiecrats..from FDR's death...or Goldwater Republicans...I think Goldwater won in 64 actually...first time GOP had carried the state since 1872 when most whites were not allowed to vote then
this is the way of the indegenous white south...don't throw Toon or Carter at me...they were anomalies..which is why they got elected by non southerners and carried only a few southern states...Carter carried most in 76 and had run as a religious conservative...plus it was post Watergate...a weird time....he got smacked down in 80 by Maximus there...and Toon split the south both times with most southern electoral votes going to his opponent..thanks to Texas
this is just how it is...I am one from a long long line...there are very few exceptions even if they do get a lot of attention
Question...are the state legislative districts ( some or all) subject to voting rights act provisions..i.e...must they be drawn to "guarantee" minority (black) winners?..or can the state legislature redraw the lines to allow for white and/or conservative black candidates a chance..
i would guess that Mississippi is typical state wise?
he who controls the legislative body writes the districts for the House
insofar as VRA regs...like most southern states it’s a steady court battle when the lines favor one or the other but the petitioner is way more often for more black inclusion
some districts like the Delta or Hinds county would take a very creative drawing to ensure a white elected guy...but that is really off the point
MS has plenty of local white Dems elected by electorates with sizable black numbers....some value power enough that they took that route...think Steve Cohen of Memphis on a smaller scale
plus...some really way out there districts may not have a viable black candidate so the yellow dog white runs and wins
but make no mistake...nearly 5 out of 6 MS whites are to the right...especially on culture
it’s a rubber meets the road state in ways folks in South Dakota would never get
parts are like South Africa with slighty less crime
First, I am crushed...crushed...that you didn’t ping me, wardaddy...but I’ll bump your excellent post anyway. ;o)
Secondly, ken5050, I believe that MS is still under the voting rights act’s provisions. IOW, the feds watch the votes, but I don’t know if they have anything to do with redistricting. (It might be the only state that is still under the the VRA.)
There was a case where the blacks disenfranchised white voters, and the ‘rat in charge was judged guilty.
Holder would hate that because it was against “his people.”
I wish I kept up more, but it’s getting dang depressing to do so.
WKB? Want to chime in?
Thank you so much for the ping!
It’s good to “see” you! ;o)
The Justice Department has to approve any redistricting plan before the June 1 qualifying deadline leading up to the primaries on Aug. 2.
http://blog.gulflive.com/mississippi-press-news/2011/02/mississippi_lawmakers_set_to_v.html
I knew you were the “go to” guy! Thank you so much for the link.
Honestly...why in the world is any state...especially Mississippi...under such scrutiny.
As integrated as Mississippi is, there is absolutely no reason for it.
Unless, there are those in the fed goverment who want to suck up to somebody.
Don’t let too many people know about the “go to” thing. I have enough on my plate as it is. :>)
Okie dokie...you’ll be my “go to” guy.
I won’t say a word...;o)
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