Posted on 03/01/2011 7:53:15 PM PST by Hamilcar_Barca
Wisconsin GOP Senator Glenn Grothman chased, trapped by hecklers. Appearently police (who are siding with the unions) wouldn't let him in one entrance left him to the mob. Communism has come to Wisconsin.
Most of these a-holes don’t look like teachers to me ...looking more and more like the sort of people you see in the parks and under the bridges who play instruments and beg for change . . .
So I think I’ve found the escape hatch from this predicament:
* Wisconsin Senate Democrats return to session, the bill passes over their objections, Governor Walker signs it, and protests flare for a few days but ultimately dissipate of their own futility
-—OR-—
* Wisconsin Senate Democrats do not return within 30 days.
* Governor Walker declares vacancies in those seats and calls for special elections.
* Special elections happen in all Democrat state senate districts. At least 1 (preferably 2) of those seats will have to go Republican. WHOSE SEATS ARE MOST VULNERABLE TO REPUBLICAN TAKEOVER? DO WE HAVE GOOD CANDIDATES READY?
* Replacement senators get inaugurated.
* Bill passes state senate with replacement senators.
* Governor Walker signs bill.
* Protests flare for weeks vigorously.
* Legislative process meanwhile operates under intense protest to finish rest of budget, which Governor Walker signs.
* Legislators go home, and protests ultimately but slowly dissipate of their own futility.
I agree. But where has order broken down to the point of bringing the Natl. Guard? What do you want the Gov. to do. He basically cleared the freeloaders out of the capitol building. Arresting the filth protesters standing around in the cold will do nothing but make them martyrs. Wait till the Tea Party shows up in a Rat state and see how fast the handcuffs come out. That will open the gates for anybody being arrested for anything. The gas has not been thrown on the fire yet. You want to see fire, wait and see what Holder and the Justice Dept do when WI fires cops and moves in the Natl. Guard. It will be shades of Ohio State.
The crowd is not just Union thugs. If you look closely, it if full of ISO, Communist Party, Code Pink types itching for force to be brought against them. Until people start heading to the hospital, Walker does not have the justification for the Natl. Guard. The public will not want a force like that running a city.
I understand your frustration with this mob running nuts in Madison and other Capitols. I just don't see what Walker can do at this point other than stay the course. Steve Hayes from the Weakly Substandard said this evening that about 9 Rat Senators are all ready to pack up the tents and head back to get the inevitable over with. Polls still back Walker and he is making this an issue of national importance. Did anyone think that we would be able to get rid of collective bargaining and it would spread to multiple states prior to this episode? Not all is even near lost to start panicking with dire predictions of a 1960's style insurrection.
I expect an increase in lawlessness in response to an increase in the long-term unemployment rate. We will get out of the financial mess, but it won’t be painless. All of the excessive government spending has to be paid for through higher taxes, budget cuts, and the hidden tax of inflation. I expect all three of those methods will be used to get government budget deficits back under control. Considering that the Deficit Reduction commission couldn’t even agree to vote for its own report, I think it’s going to be very difficult to get enough spending cuts. The only method the political class can agree on to reduce deficits is strong economic growth, and thus I expect the Fed will end up under tremendous pressure not to raise interest rates enough to actually control inflation. There will be heavy pressure on the Fed from the political class to keep interest rates too low, to generate the strongest possible economic growth rate in the US. So I’m expecting to see more inflation than I thought we’d see six months ago. The federal government will understate that inflation in official statistics by underweighting food and energy in the CPI, but we’ll all feel it when we pay our food and gasoline bills.
The production and use of physical resources and services must be balanced, and the political class will ultimately decide to balance resources by taking more resources for the government (to help politicians get reelected) and then devaluing the dollar through inflation to force citizens to use less in physical resources and services. I’ve been buying oil & gas and mining stocks to hedge against the inevitable increase in actual inflation.
>> “Most of these a-holes don’t look like teachers to me ...looking more and more like the sort of people you see in the parks and under the bridges who play instruments and beg for change” <<
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Well, they did teach you something...
The governor is not a God - he cannot fire city police officers
My heart is breaking. The media is on the Dem’s side, and their subtle, relentless power is just too strong. Folks are turning on our Governor. The new thing is that he tried to do too much too soon, and the economy is turning around, after all, and he is just too draconian. People eat it up. Everything will be OK if he just cools his jets.
Doesn’t everyone think it’s time that law-abiding, level-headed, patriotic Americans start putting an end to this anarchy before it’s too late?
No, not by forming a brutish mob like these people are doing, but by demanding in overwhelming numbers and by every means possible that the mainstream media, radio stations, blogs, newspapers and news outlets know that real Americans won’t stand for this and won’t support anyone who uses these tactics. Let Democrats know in no uncertain terms that these union pigs they have supported have put their image in the mud for decades to come.
Lazlo—enjoyed your post 63—it is spot on. The National Guard would only be used if the Capitol Police refused a direct order by the Governor to clear the building.
You are quite correct about how the hammer would come down on Tea Partiers if the roles were reversed in a Dem controlled state. There would be no mercy.
On the other hand, what if, at the 9/12/11 march in DC, we just keep marching up the Hill and into the Capitol like the Madison protestors, and we occupied the US Capitol?
How would we be treated—hmmmm?
Correction: I meant "Kent" State. I always mix those two crappy OH schools up.
I think he is trying to refrain from giving these people their youtube moment so is using restraint.
Libs, see Lazlo’s post 63 for the breakdown of the usual suspects in Madison.
AS you say, they are not all teachers.
>You’ve got Democratic Senators now talking about staying out of Wisconsin for the entire term if they don’t get their way.
Their entire term, as stated in Wisconsin law is 30 days after leaving their seats vacant.
At that point the governor can declare the seats officially vacant and call for a special election
Why do you think they are breaking ranks at all?
“The Federal Government needs to step in. If this is allowed to continue in Wisconsin, the entire country is at great risk and all bets are off.”
And who’s in charge of “the feds”?
The feds may just step in. But if they do, just who’s side do you think they’ll be on?
I don't see that happening in any timely fashion.
You've got Democratic Senators now talking about staying out of Wisconsin for the entire term if they don't get their way. There is literally nothing Walker can do. Perhaps break up the repair bill and push through the non financial parts is about the only option I see.
At least one person --- you --- has seen how easily "nullification" works. The radicals have turned the tables; force the governor to resort to excessive force.
But why do I feel that if positions were reversed, the Soros crowd and supporting cast would find a way to make the problem go away? With total impunity, of course.
Damn. I am getting even more cynical.
WACO
I just looked that the results of the Newsmax poll about Walker and the WI budget battle, and the results were overwhelmingly in favor of Walker. It’s not a scientific poll but he got very strong support from people who decided to participate in the online poll. I doubt that the majority of people in Wisconsin are turning on Walker. The lib media runs rigged polls so I wouldn’t pay any attention to any polls other than Rasmussen’s and Newmax’s polls.
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