Skip to comments.Senate to take up (unanimously passes!) resolution calling for $100 penalty for missing lawmakers
Posted on 03/02/2011 10:23:14 AM PST by bigbob
Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Under this resolution, a senator who is absent without leave from two or more session days is subject to a penalty equal to $100 for each day that the senator is absent without leave. In addition, the senator must reimburse the senate for the actual costs incurred to compel his or her attendance. The penalties and costs are imposed by adopting a privileged resolution that identifies the senator who has been absent without leave. A senator who is subject to the penalties and costs imposed by the resolution may only be heard on the matter on the session day on which the resolution is before the senate. If a senator who owes the penalties and costs has not paid the penalties and costs in full within 30 days after the resolution is adopted, the chief clerk will withhold from any payments due to the senator for per diem, travel expenses, or other matters, not including salary, the amount of any unpaid penalties and costs. The senate majority leader may also take certain measures to compel the attendance of any senator who is absent without leave. The resolution also allows the sergeant at arms to request the assistance of any law enforcement officer in this state to find and return any senator who is absent without leave.
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Symbolic, but unanimous passage also shows the unity of the Republican state Senate members.
That's not enough.
It has to be large enough that some union's slush fund can't afford to fund it.
I'd prefer $10,000/day, but I'll settle for $1,000/day.
Wow, that’s gonna hurt. That’ll show em.
Union slush funds would not be able to legally reimburse them for this. It could be a way to send some of them to jail if they try.
I’ve been looking at this site for timely Wisconsin budget updates. Seems to have lots of posts.
WARNING— I’m Not sure of the partisan affiliation of this site so be skeptical.
They’ll probably be able to pay for it out of their campaign accounts.
"No problem, we've got the cash on hand".
Fine them $1,000/day and assign the money to deficit reduction.
By definition, a "slush fund" has questionable origins and/or questionable expenditures. But it's generally "off the books" anyway.
$100/day could be managed by collecting cash from supporters, a few bucks at a time. $1,000/day is a lot harder, and $10,000/day is effectively impossible to hide.
If you read the bill, the legislator doesn't even have to pay it. All he has to do is refuse, and it's deducted from per-diem or travel expense reimbursements. The resolution prohibits it from being deducted from salary.
$100/day is "walking around money" to these guys. It's not enough to "encourage" them to do anything.
I would gladly pay $100 a day for a paid day off.
They should be re-districting, and passing voter ID. Unless there are strict measures to prevent the Unions from reimbursing, this is pointless.
It should start at $1000 per day and double every day they are AWOL.
How about making them forego their generous healthcare and retirement packages?
It will make them show up a lot quicker than $100.
(And if I didn’t do my job, I would lose it.....why can they play these nonsesnical games?)
...they’ll just take it from their Union contributions. :)
This is more symbolic than anything else. I think the GOPers know that some of the Dems are essentially being held against their will (talk about party discipline!) and in any case are probably receiving money from elsewere, so they probably don’t want to look as if they’re being harsh on the captive Dems and they know there’s no way they can compete with the union/Obama money that is probably being funneled into the Dems’ bank accounts even as we speak.
It’s a gesture, nothing more. But at least they made a gesture! Normally, the GOP doesn’t even do that much.
Yeah, but what if they get one of those bogus doctors notes?/sarc
It is $100 per DAY. That adds up. If they’re only gone for a few days, they probably wouldn’t write them up on it anyway. But if they’re gone for ten or more days, we’re into the thousands. And state legislators generally don’t earn that much money whilst in session. In fact, this may be a way to garnishee their wages without actually attaching their pay, which may be more complicated to do.
The fact that the fleebaggers have to personally reimburse the State of Wisconsin for all expenses, including all costs associated with deploying law enforcement personnel in this matter, will amount to considerably more than $100/day. It could be that this is more than symbolic.
Yeah that got awful quite didn’t it have not heard a word about it in a long time.
want to bet the Senate in “the spirit of bipartisanship” forgives teh debt?
this means nothing because they will pay nothing and not suffer one penny of a loss.
They should add another rule: If an entire party is MIA then the rule that it takes one present for a quorum has been met and a vote may take place.
Agree that WI senate should be passing all types of non-fiduciary legislation while the Fleabaggers are enjoying Illinois hospitality. It’s been >2 weeks, what has that senate been doing? As opposed to meaningless per diem fines (which will be paid for by ample union coffers - which are, of course, tithed by us taxpayers!), what WILL get these Rats scurrying back to Madision is the Republican senators passing non-quorum legislation (voted ID, prez candidate eligibility verification, CCW or even open carry, school vouchers, etc). Start that train and the Rats will be back tomorrow!!
It also shouldn’t exclude payroll from settlement of dues or at least say that deliquency of 30 days rendered the legislator in “bad standing” unable to cast a vote.
That's what I was thinking. Two or three cops, the cruiser, over time and all the rest of it, That's going to add up.. if they want it to. A grand a day minimum.
It’ll probably be paid for by “COPE” funds...
anyone from WIS??
here in GA— we only have session from Jan- April...
They have other jobs...
Does WI have there Congress and Senate in session all year?
That’s not enough.
It has to be large enough that some union’s slush fund can’t afford to fund it.
I’d prefer $10,000/day, but I’ll settle for $1,000/day.
I agree with you!
I read somewhere that the union is legally prevented from paying their expenses while away and any fines levied, but we all know they’ll get around that somehow.
Personally I think the governor should just declare those seats vacant and appoint people to fill them.
I was thinking more along the order of $5000 dollars per day, plus 5 days of prison time for every day absent. I’d assume to make this work, the senate would have to issue a summons, specifying the penalties at the time of the summons.
It should be an amount at least twice what they earn per day based on a 20-day work month, plus the perdiem. I’m thinking that would be somewhere in the $1,000 range you speak of. It’s a good idea, but $100 isn’t enough. Even $500 would be meaningful.
it may be symbolic, but $100 is more like a joke
And it should be retroactive!
Just like anklepants’ tax increase was...
I agree. It’s really just a gesture. As is typical of pubs, they didn’t put any teeth in it.
The Governor is not quite ready to really play hard ball with the Rats yet. He’s softening the target. They could pass a residency requirement for all elected officials that would make the Rats technically out of state residents and unable to serve.
One of the things I have loved about the Wisconsin Republicans, they have been trying to NOT get stupid and throw down, they have been very careful to make sure they can still talk with their friends when they return. The Dems only have 13 days or so left.....they have to come back. The Dem that saved the Republican at the mob cornering shows these people all know each other, they are neighbors and colleges. The Dems will return, the votes will be counted. Soon.
Sounds good to me...until it costs them more than they think in their mind it pays to continue being the Union Leaderships front...they will hold out...really stupid IMO.
Their seats ought to be declared abandoned and special elections scheduled. That’s the only thing that gets a Democrat’s attention.
A burst from an M-2 makes quick work of a hundred bucks-!
After 10 consecutive absences without leave the seats should be vacated. It would send a message to the Democrats.
it’s a start!
Impressive idea really. Plus the accompanying press of it being announced that such and such senator failed to show up and had to be fined and then found and then ordered to return. The bad press alone, or the threat of it, will be more than enough to keep the senators in line.
Even better of an idea.
I am sure the unions will be happy to pick up the tab.
Sorry, did you just use “union” and “legally” in the same sentence? Come on now, be realistic.
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