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Senate to take up (unanimously passes!) resolution calling for $100 penalty for missing lawmakers
Wispolitics dot com ^ | 3-2-11 | Andy Szal

Posted on 03/02/2011 10:23:14 AM PST by bigbob

Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau

Under this resolution, a senator who is absent without leave from two or more session days is subject to a penalty equal to $100 for each day that the senator is absent without leave. In addition, the senator must reimburse the senate for the actual costs incurred to compel his or her attendance. The penalties and costs are imposed by adopting a privileged resolution that identifies the senator who has been absent without leave. A senator who is subject to the penalties and costs imposed by the resolution may only be heard on the matter on the session day on which the resolution is before the senate. If a senator who owes the penalties and costs has not paid the penalties and costs in full within 30 days after the resolution is adopted, the chief clerk will withhold from any payments due to the senator for per diem, travel expenses, or other matters, not including salary, the amount of any unpaid penalties and costs. The senate majority leader may also take certain measures to compel the attendance of any senator who is absent without leave. The resolution also allows the sergeant at arms to request the assistance of any law enforcement officer in this state to find and return any senator who is absent without leave.

(Excerpt) Read more at budget.wispolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 100awol; attendance; fine; fleebaggers; fleeparty; isthat24hrsupyet; leave; payment; penalty; senator; travelexpenses; wisconsinshowdown
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Above excerpt from 2011 SENATE RESOLUTION 3 which can be read in its entirety at the linked site above.

Symbolic, but unanimous passage also shows the unity of the Republican state Senate members.

1 posted on 03/02/2011 10:23:19 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob
Under this resolution, a senator who is absent without leave from two or more session days is subject to a penalty equal to $100 for each day that the senator is absent without leave.

That's not enough.

It has to be large enough that some union's slush fund can't afford to fund it.

I'd prefer $10,000/day, but I'll settle for $1,000/day.

2 posted on 03/02/2011 10:30:10 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: bigbob

Wow, that’s gonna hurt. That’ll show em.


3 posted on 03/02/2011 10:33:48 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: justlurking

Union slush funds would not be able to legally reimburse them for this. It could be a way to send some of them to jail if they try.


4 posted on 03/02/2011 10:34:44 AM PST by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: bigbob

I’ve been looking at this site for timely Wisconsin budget updates. Seems to have lots of posts.

http://budget.wispolitics.com/

WARNING— I’m Not sure of the partisan affiliation of this site so be skeptical.


5 posted on 03/02/2011 10:39:28 AM PST by MillardFillmore
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To: bigbob

They’ll probably be able to pay for it out of their campaign accounts.


6 posted on 03/02/2011 10:41:43 AM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: bigbob

"No problem, we've got the cash on hand".

7 posted on 03/02/2011 10:43:32 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: bigbob

Fine them $1,000/day and assign the money to deficit reduction.


8 posted on 03/02/2011 10:43:50 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: listenhillary
Union slush funds would not be able to legally reimburse them for this. It could be a way to send some of them to jail if they try.

By definition, a "slush fund" has questionable origins and/or questionable expenditures. But it's generally "off the books" anyway.

$100/day could be managed by collecting cash from supporters, a few bucks at a time. $1,000/day is a lot harder, and $10,000/day is effectively impossible to hide.

If you read the bill, the legislator doesn't even have to pay it. All he has to do is refuse, and it's deducted from per-diem or travel expense reimbursements. The resolution prohibits it from being deducted from salary.

$100/day is "walking around money" to these guys. It's not enough to "encourage" them to do anything.

9 posted on 03/02/2011 10:46:45 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: bigbob

Seriously?!

I would gladly pay $100 a day for a paid day off.


10 posted on 03/02/2011 10:47:25 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: bigbob
$100? I can spend that at the grocery in the blink of an eye - it's chump change.

What else...five licks with a nerf bat? A shot in the but with a marshmallow gun?

Wait, I know...a one hour suspension of their reserved parking spaces....

(No wonder we can't get people to stop misbehaving)
11 posted on 03/02/2011 10:47:48 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: bigbob

They should be re-districting, and passing voter ID. Unless there are strict measures to prevent the Unions from reimbursing, this is pointless.


12 posted on 03/02/2011 10:51:14 AM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: justlurking
$100/day is "walking around money" to these guys. It's not enough to "encourage" them to do anything.

It should start at $1000 per day and double every day they are AWOL.

13 posted on 03/02/2011 10:51:31 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: bigbob; All

How about making them forego their generous healthcare and retirement packages?

It will make them show up a lot quicker than $100.

(And if I didn’t do my job, I would lose it.....why can they play these nonsesnical games?)


14 posted on 03/02/2011 10:51:45 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: bigbob

...they’ll just take it from their Union contributions. :)


15 posted on 03/02/2011 10:55:50 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: justlurking; unixfox

This is more symbolic than anything else. I think the GOPers know that some of the Dems are essentially being held against their will (talk about party discipline!) and in any case are probably receiving money from elsewere, so they probably don’t want to look as if they’re being harsh on the captive Dems and they know there’s no way they can compete with the union/Obama money that is probably being funneled into the Dems’ bank accounts even as we speak.

It’s a gesture, nothing more. But at least they made a gesture! Normally, the GOP doesn’t even do that much.


16 posted on 03/02/2011 10:56:55 AM PST by livius
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To: bigbob

Yeah, but what if they get one of those bogus doctors notes?/sarc


17 posted on 03/02/2011 11:01:56 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: FrankR

It is $100 per DAY. That adds up. If they’re only gone for a few days, they probably wouldn’t write them up on it anyway. But if they’re gone for ten or more days, we’re into the thousands. And state legislators generally don’t earn that much money whilst in session. In fact, this may be a way to garnishee their wages without actually attaching their pay, which may be more complicated to do.


18 posted on 03/02/2011 11:12:40 AM PST by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: justlurking
It has to be large enough that some union's slush fund can't afford to fund it.

The unions and their DEM supporters will afford any amount to make WI stop this madness. If they lose this, their whole charade is in jeopardy as state after state will follow in order to try and get their house in order for the impeding unfunded doom that looms on the horizon.
19 posted on 03/02/2011 11:15:49 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bigbob
In addition, the senator must reimburse the senate for the actual costs incurred to compel his or her attendance…The senate majority leader may also take certain measures to compel the attendance of any senator who is absent without leave. The resolution also allows the sergeant at arms to request the assistance of any law enforcement officer in this state to find and return any senator who is absent without leave.

The fact that the fleebaggers have to personally reimburse the State of Wisconsin for all expenses, including all costs associated with deploying law enforcement personnel in this matter, will amount to considerably more than $100/day. It could be that this is more than symbolic.

20 posted on 03/02/2011 11:21:51 AM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: ichabod1
Still should be at least $1000 a day; it's costing the state a fortune for them to pull this stunt.

They - or future congresspersons - would think twice before doing this kind of crap again if they took a big bite out of their paychecks.
21 posted on 03/02/2011 11:22:38 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: bigbob

History of Senate Resolution 3

SENATE RESOLUTION 3 To amend senate rule 84; and to create senate rule 13n; relating to: imposing a penalty on a senator who is absent without leave. 2011 03-02. S. Introduced by Senator S. Fitzgerald. 03-02. S. Read and referred to committee on Senate Organization. 03-02. S. Available for scheduling. 03-02. S. Rules suspended and taken up. 03-02. S. Read. 03-02. S. Adopted, Ayes 18, Noes 0
22 posted on 03/02/2011 11:24:25 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: libertarian27

Yeah that got awful quite didn’t it have not heard a word about it in a long time.


23 posted on 03/02/2011 11:24:45 AM PST by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: MillardFillmore; Jean S

ping


24 posted on 03/02/2011 11:26:16 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: lonevoice

want to bet the Senate in “the spirit of bipartisanship” forgives teh debt?

this means nothing because they will pay nothing and not suffer one penny of a loss.


25 posted on 03/02/2011 11:27:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bigbob

They should add another rule: If an entire party is MIA then the rule that it takes one present for a quorum has been met and a vote may take place.


26 posted on 03/02/2011 11:28:22 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: ROTB

Agree that WI senate should be passing all types of non-fiduciary legislation while the Fleabaggers are enjoying Illinois hospitality. It’s been >2 weeks, what has that senate been doing? As opposed to meaningless per diem fines (which will be paid for by ample union coffers - which are, of course, tithed by us taxpayers!), what WILL get these Rats scurrying back to Madision is the Republican senators passing non-quorum legislation (voted ID, prez candidate eligibility verification, CCW or even open carry, school vouchers, etc). Start that train and the Rats will be back tomorrow!!


27 posted on 03/02/2011 1:05:53 PM PST by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: justlurking

It also shouldn’t exclude payroll from settlement of dues or at least say that deliquency of 30 days rendered the legislator in “bad standing” unable to cast a vote.


28 posted on 03/02/2011 1:07:28 PM PST by scannell
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To: lonevoice
all expenses, including all costs associated with deploying law enforcement personnel in this matter, will amount to considerably more than $100/day.

That's what I was thinking. Two or three cops, the cruiser, over time and all the rest of it, That's going to add up.. if they want it to. A grand a day minimum.

29 posted on 03/02/2011 1:28:12 PM PST by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: MillardFillmore

It’ll probably be paid for by “COPE” funds...

http://www.tcnj.edu/~aft/cope/cope.htm


30 posted on 03/02/2011 1:45:58 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: bigbob

anyone from WIS??

here in GA— we only have session from Jan- April...

They have other jobs...

Does WI have there Congress and Senate in session all year?


31 posted on 03/02/2011 2:02:42 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: justlurking

That’s not enough.

It has to be large enough that some union’s slush fund can’t afford to fund it.

I’d prefer $10,000/day, but I’ll settle for $1,000/day.
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I agree with you!

I read somewhere that the union is legally prevented from paying their expenses while away and any fines levied, but we all know they’ll get around that somehow.

Personally I think the governor should just declare those seats vacant and appoint people to fill them.


32 posted on 03/02/2011 2:20:51 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: bigbob

I was thinking more along the order of $5000 dollars per day, plus 5 days of prison time for every day absent. I’d assume to make this work, the senate would have to issue a summons, specifying the penalties at the time of the summons.


33 posted on 03/02/2011 2:55:34 PM PST by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
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To: justlurking

It should be an amount at least twice what they earn per day based on a 20-day work month, plus the perdiem. I’m thinking that would be somewhere in the $1,000 range you speak of. It’s a good idea, but $100 isn’t enough. Even $500 would be meaningful.


34 posted on 03/02/2011 3:11:24 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: bigbob

it may be symbolic, but $100 is more like a joke


35 posted on 03/02/2011 3:13:52 PM PST by RDTF
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To: paulycy

And it should be retroactive!

Just like anklepants’ tax increase was...


36 posted on 03/02/2011 3:14:21 PM PST by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: FrankR

I agree. It’s really just a gesture. As is typical of pubs, they didn’t put any teeth in it.


37 posted on 03/02/2011 3:16:08 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: bigbob

The Governor is not quite ready to really play hard ball with the Rats yet. He’s softening the target. They could pass a residency requirement for all elected officials that would make the Rats technically out of state residents and unable to serve.


38 posted on 03/02/2011 3:18:59 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: bigbob

One of the things I have loved about the Wisconsin Republicans, they have been trying to NOT get stupid and throw down, they have been very careful to make sure they can still talk with their friends when they return. The Dems only have 13 days or so left.....they have to come back. The Dem that saved the Republican at the mob cornering shows these people all know each other, they are neighbors and colleges. The Dems will return, the votes will be counted. Soon.


39 posted on 03/02/2011 3:20:32 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: bigbob
a senator who is absent without leave from two or more session days is subject to a penalty equal to $100 for each day that the senator is absent without leave. In addition, the senator must reimburse the senate for the actual costs incurred to compel his or her attendance.

Sounds good to me...until it costs them more than they think in their mind it pays to continue being the Union Leaderships front...they will hold out...really stupid IMO.

40 posted on 03/02/2011 3:22:54 PM PST by caww
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To: bigbob

Their seats ought to be declared abandoned and special elections scheduled. That’s the only thing that gets a Democrat’s attention.


41 posted on 03/02/2011 3:25:55 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: lonevoice
The fact that the fleebaggers have to personally reimburse the State of Wisconsin for all expenses, including all costs associated with deploying law enforcement personnel in this matter, will amount to considerably more than $100/day. It could be that this is more than symbolic.

Agreed....it's going to hurt.
42 posted on 03/02/2011 4:02:29 PM PST by Girlene
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To: lonevoice

A burst from an M-2 makes quick work of a hundred bucks-!


43 posted on 03/02/2011 4:23:34 PM PST by imjimbo (The constitution SHOULD be our "gun permit")
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To: Mr. Jeeves

After 10 consecutive absences without leave the seats should be vacated. It would send a message to the Democrats.


44 posted on 03/02/2011 4:24:01 PM PST by DHSMostWanted (Public Service Unions should be illegal!)
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To: bigbob

it’s a start!


45 posted on 03/02/2011 5:36:03 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Girlene

Impressive idea really. Plus the accompanying press of it being announced that such and such senator failed to show up and had to be fined and then found and then ordered to return. The bad press alone, or the threat of it, will be more than enough to keep the senators in line.


46 posted on 03/02/2011 11:04:14 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: DHSMostWanted

Even better of an idea.


47 posted on 03/02/2011 11:06:01 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: bigbob

I am sure the unions will be happy to pick up the tab.


48 posted on 03/03/2011 12:14:32 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: listenhillary

Sorry, did you just use “union” and “legally” in the same sentence? Come on now, be realistic.


49 posted on 03/03/2011 1:55:58 AM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: justlurking

“(The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)”

That’s a GOOD tagline for one of our true Heroines!


50 posted on 03/03/2011 4:18:03 AM PST by Postman
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