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Mark Steyn's sober analysis of the debt crisis, and whether the GOP even understand it.
Steyn Online ^ | 4 March 2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/04/2011 2:03:09 AM PST by Rummyfan

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To: GOPJ

true. defund the usual suspects instead. Drastically defund, eliminate, throw out.

eg., PBS...they get 301 million per year just on Sesame Street products. Cut them loose!


41 posted on 03/05/2011 10:37:43 AM PST by bitt ( ..Congress - either investigate Obama ...or yourselves, for complicity)
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To: GOPJ
RE :”If the GOP gets talked into cutting social security, they will lose the next election. When that happens, dems will keep spending at an ever faster rate ON THEIR PET VICTIM GROUPS. Tax money will go to gang bangers, drug addicts, and Bill Ayers type radicals etc. WHILE grannie goes hungry and Grannies’ kids go broke trying to keep her alive.

Especially when liberal Democrats are claiming SS has piled up a huge surplus/trust fund. Until that nonsense is effectively challenged it is pointless to try anything regarding SS.

A good way of looking at the scenario above would be to compare it with Dems ramming through unpopular Obama-care bill. But in that case Obama had the WH so the off-year 2010 election loses were not that bad a thing for him personally.

42 posted on 03/05/2011 10:38:37 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: GOPJ

Screw the politics...balance the budget.

Treat Americans like adults for a change. When things are properly explained, the people will respond.

The choice is some discomfort now or catastrophe later. And that choice was provided courtesy of the Democrats.


43 posted on 03/05/2011 11:07:03 AM PST by Scanian
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To: GOPJ

The average moron is so deluded at this point, I see nothing but a complete collapse on the way. We deserve it for the stupidity we have at all levels of the govt and populace at large.

Sad but true.


44 posted on 03/05/2011 3:59:18 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GOPJ

The average moron is so deluded at this point, I see nothing but a complete collapse on the way. We deserve it for the stupidity we have at all levels of the govt and populace at large.

Sad but true.


45 posted on 03/05/2011 3:59:18 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Scanian
Screw the politics...

Dems will barbecue us at the voting booth if we did that - and when we're out of power they'll spend so much you'll wish we could go back to this time. Look what they did with "obamacare"... Took over a huge chunk of the economy. Now they mucking with business and tax incentives that will gin up the economy for 2012 - and will cause a crash we'll never get over. And you want to play naive? They would love to have us throw our supporters under the bus ... Look how the MSM is starting to question Republicans about Social Security. They want us to take the hit. IT WILL NOT STOP THE SPENDING. When dems dump us, they'll spend MORE - on their voters.

We need to cut EVERY program that basically serves democrats - ( that's everything except Social Security and Highway and Internet construction)

46 posted on 03/05/2011 7:51:27 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Are you running for president? You have my vote! :)


47 posted on 03/05/2011 7:52:07 PM PST by Joan912 (I used to think that the day would never come...)
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To: GOPJ

I really don’t care anymore.

If the crisis is so plain to me, it can be made plain to most other people also.

The choice is a possible political crash in 2012 or a DEFINITE financial and societal crash shortly thereafter.

It’s that bad. No more time to play Republicans and Democrats. We’ve been past that trivial nonsense for quite some time now.


48 posted on 03/05/2011 9:50:17 PM PST by Scanian
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To: GOPJ

I agree with you. The GOP is doing what it can while not allowing Obama to paint them as a villain. They have to keep in mind the fact that doing too much too fast (especally when the Senate can stall and Obama veto) is a lost cause which will end up making things worse.

Has no one learned from 2008? How did not electing McCain help us? Most of you know I despise that guy, but at least we would have had Palin as VP and our energy industry wouldn’t have been under attack.

The idea is to save the country, not score cheap political points in a suicide mission. Are things bad? Yes. Will panicking the population be productive? No. Will it help us to keep Obama in office for 4 more years? No.

This is going to be a 2-year war of attrition with the dems. We are going to have to push for a concession here, a roll-back there. Until we can grab the Senate and hopefully unseat Obama this is what the House has to do.

Steyn is looking at this from the “if I had a magic wand” point of view. Fine, but Boehner doesn’t have one, and whatever the House does, the Senate is bent right now on stopping.


49 posted on 03/06/2011 5:55:03 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
This is going to be a 2-year war of attrition with the dems. We are going to have to push for a concession here, a roll-back there. Until we can grab the Senate and hopefully unseat Obama this is what the House has to do.

Steyn is looking at this from the “if I had a magic wand” point of view. Fine, but Boehner doesn’t have one, and whatever the House does, the Senate is bent right now on stopping.

You're right - insightful stuff Miss Marple.

50 posted on 03/06/2011 8:12:18 AM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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To: Scanian
Look - if it was possible to trust dems I would stand with you. But if we threw every person on Social Security under the bus - and lost every election - IT WOULD NOT SAVE THE COUNTRY. Dems will take the 'saved' money and SPEND IT ON THEIR FRIENDS.

Don't you see that?

If a family was going broke because the mother was charging everything in sight - and the father decided 'something had to be done' so he quit feeding his children... while NOT dealing with the overspending of his wife, would it really help? NO, it would not help.

Dems are pushing ObamaCare.

Obama sides with unions against taxpayers who don't make nearly as much -or have the health benefits, or pensions or anything.

Dems ARE TAKERS. They aren't going to change.

If Republicans GAVE UP EVERYTHING, dems would scoop up the tax revenue and spend in on their fat friends... THEY WOULD NOT CUT SPENDING...

51 posted on 03/06/2011 8:34:23 AM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - It's only uncivil when someone on the right does it.- Laz)
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