Skip to comments.Congress blocks ceremony for vet; Remains of last US World War I soldier will not lie in Capitol
Posted on 03/04/2011 11:32:50 AM PST by RobertClark
West Virginia's two Democratic senators blamed House Speaker John Boehner on Thursday after their hopes of having the remains of World War I veteran Frank Buckles honored in the Capitol Rotunda were dashed, at least for now.
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Hmmm. What was Boehners response. Im surprised at this?
Ping to read later. This sounds odd.
Question.. Have we had remains of last vets from past wars in the capital?
Not really. Boehner wants to honor him, just not what the WV Senators requested. His distinction is being the last living WWI vet. He didn’t even serve overseas during the war.
“Steel said Boehner and Reid will ask Defense Secretary Robert Gates to allow a memorial service for Buckles at Arlington National Cemetery in nearby Arlington, Va., surrounded by honored veterans of every American war.
Does Boehner have that authority? Who’s in charge of what goes on in the Capital Rotunda?
I’m sure there is more to this and seeing how it’s Jay Rockefeller and Joe Manchin behind this they probably had legislation attached that spent billions and outlawed Republicans
Albert Woolson, last survivor of the War of the Northern Aggression was buried in Arlington but didn’t lie in state in the Capital.
It’s not the first odd thing Boehner has done though.
I will reserve judgment until I hear Boehner’s reasoning for it. I personally don’t see why it should be a problem, although I know some have complained that the honor was being used too frequently, and was suppose to be used only for Presidents and the Senate/House leaders who died in office. The only other reason I could think of that they would deny it, (not to diminish his service) but Mr. Buckles didn’t really accomplish anything that any other WW I veteran did other than outlive them all. Perhaps they feel it would be an insult to other WW I vets that died previously with greater battle awards and weren’t given a similar honor.
something doesn’t sound right about this and of course this is the AP, a propaganda arm of the Dems.
What the AP is trying to tell the idiots out there is that the last vet should be honored and he said no.
That crap might wash with the left who are not known for thinking for themselves but it doesn’t wash with me.
I’ll wait till I see and hear more facts before making a decision and right now this sounds like a hit piece
Frank Buckles served in England and France, mostly as a driver and warehouse clerk. After the war ended, he helped repatriate German prisoners of war, returning to the U.S. in January 1920.
I will NEVER again take these news pukes at their word, not without first checking the story out myself.
If I do someone please clobber me with a pipe wrench.
Later, he was in the Philippines on business and ended up a civilian POW of the Nippers in World War II.
There’s a large part of the population who believe simply attaining a certain age entitles you to to all kinds of things.
Given this is from AP, I doubt we’re getting the whole story.
This is all wrong!
From the article
The honor requires a congressional resolution or the approval of congressional leaders, according to the office of the architect of the Capitol.
Where did you get the “He didnt even serve overseas during the war.” The article says “He served in England and France, mostly as a driver and warehouse clerk. After the war ended, he helped repatriate German prisoners of war, returning to the U.S. in January 1920.”
As the last surviving WWI veteran, he became the symbolic representation of all those who went before him. He should be honored in a way that honors all WWI vets, not because he alone deserves it, but because they all do.
If the above is correct then I cannot see how or why this person would merit this privilege any more than the the 100s of 1000s of honorable vets who are not there.
I have relatives who are decorated vets of WWII and most of them are not eligible. Two of them have Purple Hearts and they have said getting shot wasn't reason enough to be buried there.
I am willing to bet that this man if asked would have said he should not be buried there.
Maybe Arlington should go back to the original and only qualification.
Rather than having a kneejerk reaction to this, why not spend a second thinking about the other side of the argument. This isn’t exactly the best time in history to be opening the Capitol to the public for an event that, unfortunately, has political overturns. Not to mention the recent ruling on the inability to limit, entirely, protests at funerals.
Would it really be a good idea to take this risk and have it turn out to be a nightmare instead of a solemn honor? And do we have the info that they have on the Capitol about these types of security issues right now?
I’m not saying the decision was well-founded. I don’t know that. But I sure as Hell’s Bells know it can be mighty dumb to have kneejerk reactions of “disgust” when all the facts, and risks, are not known.
I say let’s focus on honoring our vets. We can do that without this particular ceremony.
Well stated. My thoughts exactly.
My mistake. He didn’t serve in combat.
*Rather than having a kneejerk reaction to this, why not spend a second thinking about the other side of the argument.*
You’re really asking a lot for most Freepers. They see ‘veteran’ and ‘Congress’ in a sentence and their mind is automatically made up.
For the record, I think this is a foolish idea. If people want to commemorate all the doughboys, how about ensuring the monuments & memorials to the Great War are properly upkept and renovated first.
When do we stop? Last Dominican Marine, last Russian Intervention survivor, last Honduran Occupation Marine, last China Marine, last WW2 Vet, Last Greece MAC vet, last Korea vet, last Vietnam vet, last Desert One survivor, last Grenada vet, last Beirut Marine, last Panama vet, last Desert Storm vet, last Bosnia participant, last Somalia vet, last GWOT vet, or last Democrat Senator?
That you had to have lived in Arlington House? Or are you thinking of some time later?
Ahem, the symbolic representative of all WWI servicemen is the soldier known but to God who is interred in The Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington.
However, I think that as the last surviving Doughboy, Mr Buckles deserves the honor of laying in state as a means of tying current generations to our past.
Wow, is that really how kids today see the first world war? Way to trivialize it.
I’m with you on that.
He is not the symbolic representation, but he is symbolically representative. His funeral, and his final resting place, will make an unspoken statement about our recognition of all vets, especially those who served during WWI.
And it’s worthwhile to speak up sometimes.
If we are going to do this, let us make it a full celebration of ALL those who served in WW1. Not just this individual.
But then, Where do we stop? Now everyone will expect a celebration. To paraphrase James Madison (the guy who wrote the Constitution), there is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes congress to appropriate money for this.
When the fund starts I will send twenty bucks, just like I did for the WW2 memorial and the Cruiser Olympia.
Check the first law listed on the web page I gave the link for.
This sounds to me like a situation where the standard honor for a deceased veteran of distinction was offered. Having someone lie in state at the National capitol undoubtedly would greatly increase the security and personnel costs. Only thirty people have been in state at the national capitol since the practice began. While people may disagree on whether Buckles should have this particular honor, being buried at Arlington with full military honors is hardly dissing him.
Now, I am not saying that she should or should not have been given this honor, but if Rosa Parks received this honor, there should be no question that Frank Buckles should be honored too.