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Obama: I believe in the 2nd Amendment
Hot Air ^ | March 4, 2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/06/2011 11:12:40 PM PST by neverdem

CNS News has a pretty good moment here for Barack Obama from yesterdays’ presser with Mexico’s President Felipe Calderon, after a reporter from Mexico challenged Obama on why he doesn’t just “veto” the 2nd Amendment. Obama patiently explains that American Presidents have to work within the Constitution and don’t have the power to veto its provisions, and then explains that the 2nd Amendment isn’t the problem in gunrunning between here and Mexico. We can and should curtail that through enforcement of existing law, Obama says, rather than infringing on the “legitimate” uses of firearms by American citizens:

“The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution allows American citizens to carry weapons and this principle is defended,” the Mexican reporter said. “However, President Calderón has said that this law in Congress–this could actually go against U.S. agents, and this has happened. So, President Obama, in Mexico we have the veto, the power of veto. I don’t know how far you have the ability to veto that law that has been approved. And if you have that responsibility, why don’t you do so, sir? How long are we going to allow Mexicans to be murdered–and not just Mexicans, but now Americans, as well?”

Obama responded: “Well, the Second Amendment in this country is part of our Constitution, and the president of the United States is bound by our Constitution. So I believe in the Second Amendment. It does provide for Americans the right to bear arms for their protection, for their safety, for hunting, for a wide range of uses. That does not mean that we cannot constrain gun-runners from shipping guns into Mexico. And so we believe that we can shape an enforcement strategy that slows the flow of guns into Mexico, while at the same time preserving our...”


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; constrains; constraint; constraits; gunwalker; obama; secondamendment
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1 posted on 03/06/2011 11:12:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

And the Devil “believes” in God.

Next?


2 posted on 03/06/2011 11:14:52 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: neverdem

Uh oh... you know what that means right?

He’s getting ready to do something in violation of it!


3 posted on 03/06/2011 11:15:13 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: neverdem

“That’s the one about free Wagyu beef & lobster for the first family, right?”


4 posted on 03/06/2011 11:17:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: Safrguns

Yup. He also stated ‘I believe in healthcare for everyone” before Obamacare happened.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 11:18:31 PM PST by max americana
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To: neverdem

It seems almost mean and petty not to give President Obama credit when he does get something right, but I wish he’d gone a little farther and explicitly pointed out that the fact that the office holder here is under the Constitution is the great contrast with our rule of law and Mexico.


6 posted on 03/06/2011 11:18:53 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: neverdem

Anybody else see in Obama’s statement the crux of BATFE’s efforts to transport guns to Mexico - I believe on his orders?

The target was the heart of the 2nd Amendment!


7 posted on 03/06/2011 11:19:21 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: max americana

It seems to be an emerging pattern.

He comes out in defense of his actions before he even does it.

Just shows he KNOWS he’s wrong, and on the wrong side the people’s will.


8 posted on 03/06/2011 11:20:47 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: neverdem

Full of sh up to his eyeballs


9 posted on 03/06/2011 11:23:15 PM PST by dennisw ( The early bird catches the worm)
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To: neverdem

Ya, like this wasn’t a typical Obama prearranged question.

Why doesn’t Mexico keep guns from flowing in from Central America and people from flowing out into the US? Seems like they’re too stupid and inept to do either.


10 posted on 03/06/2011 11:24:28 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Why are public employee unions attacking taxpayers?)
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To: neverdem

Yeah right.

He is also for securing the border and opposes gay marriage.


11 posted on 03/06/2011 11:35:08 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: neverdem

Barry Soetero’s lips are moving.


12 posted on 03/06/2011 11:39:54 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Safrguns

“Uh oh... you know what that means right?

He’s getting ready to do something in violation of it!”

Already has. He is acting as president.


13 posted on 03/06/2011 11:54:22 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: neverdem

BOHICA!


14 posted on 03/06/2011 11:56:27 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: neverdem
“Well, the Second Amendment in this country is part of our Constitution, and the president of the United States is bound by our Constitution."

Hey Barry, how about enforcing the Rule of Law with ILLEGAL immigrants?

15 posted on 03/06/2011 11:57:24 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: neverdem

Obama: I believe in doing in the 2nd Amendment.

I fixed that headline for you.


16 posted on 03/07/2011 12:00:13 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: neverdem

It tells something about the sad state of Mexico when Barry, from all people, has to explain that a constitution is a bit more than window dressing.


17 posted on 03/07/2011 12:08:18 AM PST by Moose Burger
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To: neverdem
So I believe in the Second Amendment. It does provide for Americans the right to bear arms for their protection, for their safety, for hunting, for a wide range of uses.

Maybe I am being petty, but I do not believe that the Second Amendment was set up for these purposes. I believe that the Second Amendment was set up by the founders a yet another check and balance that the people could use against the government. I am sure that this is well over Barack Obama's head.

18 posted on 03/07/2011 12:18:52 AM PST by fhayek
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To: neverdem

It’s Obama-speak. He believes in it only in that he accepts that it exists and he’s forced into accepting it as President as it is one of the biggies. He doesn’t agree with it.


19 posted on 03/07/2011 12:32:01 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: neverdem
That does not mean that we cannot constrain gun-runners from shipping guns into Mexico.

0blahblah is right and his statement is actually one of the strongest on the 2nd Amendment of any recent President. That said he needs to apply that constraint on the BATFE if he wants to slow the gun-running to Mexico.

20 posted on 03/07/2011 12:43:19 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: neverdem
When one is in a sinking ship, the declaration that the ocean exists is of no consequence.

Love guns or hate them, the reality an armed population exists. This is a thing that will never be reconciled by the likes of this lunatic.

When your ship goes down you go with the flow.

A CC proposing repeal of the Second Amendment will sell a hundred million firearms and every bullet between Maine and Caracas the week after it is formerly introduced. In fact, the mere formation of a CC will have the same effect.

21 posted on 03/07/2011 12:49:58 AM PST by mmercier
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To: neverdem

Well, isn’t that white of him.


22 posted on 03/07/2011 12:54:59 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: mmercier
A CC being a Constitutional Convention, the requirement to amend the document.
23 posted on 03/07/2011 12:55:10 AM PST by mmercier
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24 posted on 03/07/2011 1:19:56 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Welcome back.


25 posted on 03/07/2011 1:36:40 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: neverdem

Stop lying Obama.


26 posted on 03/07/2011 1:57:13 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Safrguns

Such an interesting comment.

I get from it:

1)Whenever Obama comes out in support of some principle, he’s getting ready to defy it, such as when he came to FL to support the bullet train “for jobs” and the next day destroyed NASA, or when he comes out for the free market and the next day throws the Chamber of Commerce out of his economic summit.

2) Why other countries aren’t free. The idea that the reporter thinks Obama can take our constitutional rights away by simply “vetoing” them. (I’ve explained that principle to more than a few libs; they’ve always been a little astounded. I’ve always gotten the feeling they really didn’t know about it)


27 posted on 03/07/2011 1:59:09 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Simply say, “It’s as difficult to keep guns out of your side of the border as it is to keep Mexicans out of ours”.


28 posted on 03/07/2011 2:00:25 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: neverdem
Obama patiently explains that American Presidents have to work within the Constitution and don’t have the power to veto its provisions...

OH HORSE CRAP. Hussein doesn't believe that. Ed M. needs to wake up.

29 posted on 03/07/2011 2:27:09 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: neverdem

Uh, Mr. gObma.. the ATF were engaging in gunrunning.
Apparently on orders from Eric Holdee.
I’m betting he acted on orders from you.


30 posted on 03/07/2011 2:30:12 AM PST by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: neverdem
Obama responded: “Well, the Second Amendment in this country is part of our Constitution, and the president of the United States is bound by our Constitution. So I believe in the Second Amendment. It does provide for Americans the right to bear arms for their protection, for their safety, for hunting, for a wide range of uses.

No, it does not provide the right to anything! It protects the right to bear arms that is part of the right to life, rights we are endowed with by God.

The Constitution is a contract between the federal government and the people that lists what the federal government can do. The Bill of Rights is an explicit set of limits on what the federal government can do to make certain there are no misunderstandings on the limits embodied in the Constitution. Neither is a grantor of rights as so many people mistakenly or deliberately assert.

Obama is obviously of the latter camp because he not only says that the 2nd Amendment grants the right to bear arms, but à la Article I, Section 8, that larger right is circumscribed by an enumerated set of smaller rights. Anything outside that enumerated set is within Obama's purview, but of course, since he claims, and people accept, the assertion that the 2nd Amendment grants rights, anything to do with bearing arms is within his purview.

31 posted on 03/07/2011 2:42:38 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: neverdem

“doesn`t mean we can`t constrain gun runners...”

As in your agents from the BATFE, zer0?


32 posted on 03/07/2011 2:43:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: dennisw
Full of sh up to his eyeballs

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Spot on! It pegged my BS meter too.

Obama has said that the Constitution is fundamentally flawed.

He'll making his rat policy work by hijacking the democratic process and the Constitution. You can bet on it.

The foreign occupier is a menace to our nation and damn near everyone living here.

Uncle Sam Scream-1sm
 Uncle Bambi

33 posted on 03/07/2011 3:02:44 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: narses; neverdem; patton; xsmommy; MHGinTN; NeoCaveman; SunkenCiv; CholeraJoe; VRWCmember; ...
0blahblah is right and his statement is actually one of the strongest on the 2nd Amendment of any recent President. That said he needs to apply that constraint on the BATFE if he wants to slow the gun-running to Mexico.

If I ever agree with Barack Obama, then I know what he is saying is right for the country, but I also know he is lying, and I know he will never do what he has just said, and I know that that he does not beieve it himself.

When I disagree with Barack Obama, then I know what he is saying is wrong for the country - wrong for the person and wrong for the world; but I also know he is telling what he believes is the truth, and I know he will work his absolute damnedest do what he has just said, and I know that that he most firmly believes it himself.

34 posted on 03/07/2011 3:18:35 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: neverdem

Constrain gun runners from shipping guns to Mexico?

How about starting with the ATF?


35 posted on 03/07/2011 3:41:53 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (islam- It's a religion of peace (0.0000000000000000001% of the time))
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To: dennisw

He believes in the 2nd Amendment based on his own definition of it, whatever that is?


36 posted on 03/07/2011 3:42:19 AM PST by Roklok
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To: neverdem

Obama believes in the 2A......he has Secret Security protection.

Beyond that? Forget it.


37 posted on 03/07/2011 3:43:37 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (islam- It's a religion of peace (0.0000000000000000001% of the time))
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To: neverdem

He also Believes Marriage is Between a Man And a Woman,Oh Yeah he Got up on the Wrong side Of the Bed a Couple weeks ago and Chamged His Mind on that one,Unconstitutional.
He also took an Oath to the Constitution to protect and Defend It ,How is that workin out for Ya?


38 posted on 03/07/2011 3:44:37 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: neverdem

Liar...don’t trust that slimebag..


39 posted on 03/07/2011 4:00:39 AM PST by aces
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To: neverdem
Sure Obama believes in the 2nd amendment...

The problem is, his definition of the 2nd amendment is that it might give some individuals the ability to own one gun and one gun only it some government bureaucrat arbitrarily decides that they have a valid "need" for the gun and which point the individual may purchase a single shot gun. One they purchase this gun, they must store the gun and any ammunition (limited to a maximum of ten rounds) in separate locked locations. They may not use the gun for self defense (that would violate the rights of criminals). The gun may only be used for target practice at government approved gun ranges, with a maximum of 50 rounds shot per year.

40 posted on 03/07/2011 4:08:02 AM PST by apillar
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To: apillar

I wonder if he believes in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


41 posted on 03/07/2011 4:20:57 AM PST by IM2MAD
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To: neverdem

Did anyone bother to ask or check if his (Obama’s) fingers or toes were crossed???


42 posted on 03/07/2011 4:48:17 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: neverdem
That does not mean that we cannot constrain gun-runners from shipping guns into Mexico.

Ah! So Obama is going to have Eric Holder arrested.
Way to go Barry!
.........

43 posted on 03/07/2011 4:59:33 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: neverdem

Pay no attention to what the man behind the curtain says, but watch everything that he does with an eagle eye.


44 posted on 03/07/2011 5:41:49 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: stevie_d_64

Leftists tend to use the same words we do but they mean totally different things.

“I’m a Christian” doesn’t mean they believe in the exclusivity of Jesus’ death on the cross as the only means of

“Salvation” doesn’t mean individually being forgiven of sins to be united with the Father - it means collective salvation.

“Believing in the second amendment” could mean simply “yeah, it’s in there”. Or it could mean “I believe in the right to keep and bear arms when you’re a member of the militia (national guard)”.

They use the same words intentionally to mislead and put us off guard. They inherently do this, because lying is their native language (John 8:44).


45 posted on 03/07/2011 5:46:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Soothesayer9

And the Devil “believes” in God.


James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.


46 posted on 03/07/2011 5:49:31 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: I still care

Thanks... yeah... we should see soon enough if it holds true.

Of course we know if given full control, he would confiscate every private gun he could... that’s what communists do.

This just might give us a little more insight on how he “telegraphs” his punches.

He talks a good game with a teleprompter, but has a pathetic poker face.


47 posted on 03/07/2011 6:54:14 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: Soothesayer9

bttt


48 posted on 03/07/2011 6:59:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: neverdem

Believe him and I’ll sell you a bridge in New York.


49 posted on 03/07/2011 7:05:42 AM PST by JayAr36 (Education is what we had before educators. Mark Steyn)
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To: neverdem

More from the Obama media group:

Guns: Safety trumps privacy

chicagotribune.com
Guns and privacy

March 7, 2011

Closer to home, Illinois State Police officials are refusing to release the names of people who are authorized to own guns in the state. The public access counselor’s office, which falls under the state attorney general, was asked to weigh in after ISP refused an Associated Press request for the names and expiration dates on state-issued Firearm Owner Identification cards.

The office was created as part of a long-overdue rewrite of the state’s Freedom of Information Act. Its role in this instance is to decide whether the disputed records are exempt from inspection under the law. They’re not.

ISP says releasing the names would be an invasion of privacy and could put people in danger. Assistant public access counselor Matthew Rogina examined other state and federal cases and found that releasing names doesn’t violate the cardholder’s privacy. Other information, including addresses and phone numbers, would be considered private, but the AP didn’t ask for those. The law also recognizes AP’s “legitimate interest in ISP’s enforcement of the FOID Card Act,” Rogina wrote.

Excerpt:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-foid-20110307,0,2832054,print.story


50 posted on 03/07/2011 8:54:38 AM PST by KeyLargo
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