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"No Way Out" of Debt Trap, Gross Says: U.S. Living Standards Doomed to Fall
Yahoo/Finance ^ | 3/9/11 | Stacy Curtin

Posted on 03/09/2011 7:41:22 AM PST by EBH

If the country cannot come to grips and cut back on entitlement programs, U.S. debt will continue to grow and governments around the world will loose faith in the U.S. dollar. Foreign goods would become more expensive, says Gross, while our standard of living would drop.

Under the second option, if entitlement programs are cut, many Americans would naturally have to learn to live on less and take a hit to their standard of living.

“There is really no way out of this trap and this conundrum at this point,” says Gross. From an investment perspective his advice is to stay clear of “bonds in dollar denominated terms” and to be “wary of higher interest rates going forward.”

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; bill; broke; debt; deficit; economy; gross; pimco
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To: EBH
That was Bill Gross of Pimco/Allianz, BTW.

"Producers and productive people will innovate..."

...those currently prevented from producing by corporate-government (zoning ordinances, false environmental concerns, etc.).

"With option two all the programs removed and eliminated would put value back into the system. While it wouldn't lower your taxes, your tax dollars would be working to support the core needs of our nation and pay down our debt."

We'll start buying again after the default. It will be a time for new leadership in business, academia and politics.


21 posted on 03/09/2011 9:15:07 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: jimt
Great list...

Not to nit-pick, but you left off Arts and Humanities-type funding! Oh, and Planned [Genocide] Parenthood and NPR.

22 posted on 03/09/2011 9:20:16 AM PST by elk
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To: EBH

Option #2 is the wrong option and will make the economic shutdown much worse later on. As for option #2, it’s too late. The overspending and debt regime has gone too far. That would shut the economy down now. We’ll have to take our poverty pill either way. But then I’m only trying to paraphrase what Bill said.


23 posted on 03/09/2011 9:25:52 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Ping.


24 posted on 03/09/2011 9:26:36 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: EBH
The destruction of the American Middle-class, the ONLY bastion of freedom in world, has been planned for decades.

Here are the Globalist Bankster meat-puppets that did everything they could to run American into the ground. Everyone of them piled on the debt, keep the borders wide open, shipped the jobs out, and saddled us with more rules and regulations.

Do you think voting for more Republicans and more Democrats will save us?

25 posted on 03/09/2011 10:30:06 AM PST by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: blam

I formerly started preparing Nov. 5th, 2008.

Really, I did. I had faith if, even McCain, won we might still have had some semblance of reversing things.

When I awoke on Nov. 5th to the 0bama win...I started moving things, storing things, and buying a few things...

People thought I had gone bonkers, not so much now.

Everyday things get a lot more outrageous.


26 posted on 03/09/2011 10:53:01 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: EBH

The self-loathing Liberals WANT this country to fall. They hope to pick up the remaining pieces and rule like royalty over an impoverished country. Sound crazy? The world is full of countries like that.


27 posted on 03/09/2011 10:55:49 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Go to the link...

I just copy pasted the excerpt, not typed it.


28 posted on 03/09/2011 10:58:36 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: EBH
I started early too.

Q.E. Money Printing Negative Feed Back Loop to Hyper-Inflation Oblivion

29 posted on 03/09/2011 11:12:55 AM PST by blam
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To: Roninf5-1

Best post on the whole debt issue. thanks


30 posted on 03/09/2011 11:31:49 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Roninf5-1
Do you think voting for more Republicans and more Democrats will save us?

Do you think voting for more Republicans and more Democrats will save us?

Rigging elections is child's play compared to rigging the financial markets.

31 posted on 03/09/2011 12:17:26 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Lou L

PIMCO (biggest bond fund) Dumping All Treasuries, Bringing “Government Related” Holdings To Zero

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2686157/posts?page=6

uh?


32 posted on 03/09/2011 1:25:48 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: familyop

I hear ya.


33 posted on 03/09/2011 1:35:22 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: EBH
There's nothing but doom in a future.

There is no way our elected officials have the political will to make the necessary cuts...the political system has evolved over a period of a full century to ELIMINATE anyone who does not say "more".

And, there's absolutely NO WAY Americans are going to pay back the first trillion dollars, much less the innumerable trillions of debt that will pile up before nobody will loan us another dime.

The only solution is default, new regime and new currency. That's it.

It's the only option left.

34 posted on 03/09/2011 1:39:01 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: blam
They say, "There's no peaceful/bloodless way back from here."

I put it a bit more succinctly. We ain't voting our way out of this sh**.

35 posted on 03/09/2011 1:40:02 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: jimt

I agree with the cuts you mention but that would mean cutting thousands, if not millions of jobs. How can we deal with even greater unemployment?


36 posted on 03/09/2011 2:48:41 PM PST by jch10 (Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war...)
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To: jch10
I agree with the cuts you mention but that would mean cutting thousands, if not millions of jobs.

Are they productive jobs? Because if they are not, then they are nothing but glorified welfare - people pretending to work while being paid with money stolen from people that actually do work.

Think about this for a minute - take the typical EPA job. Here's somebody who gets paid to be an obstacle to other people being productive. In other words, employing people at the EPA and other overbearing regulatory agencies has served to eliminate other jobs in a quantity much larger than the quantity of jobs that they possess themselves.

37 posted on 03/09/2011 3:06:57 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: EBH

I realize that. No reflection on you...


38 posted on 03/09/2011 4:00:33 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: EBH

Oops. In #23, I meant to write that Option #1 is the wrong option—not #2. But it is also too late for #2, and Congress won’t do it.


39 posted on 03/09/2011 8:30:37 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Fee

But that just fuels the “we need our Congressmen to push to get more spending HERE!” frenzy, from what I’ve seen.


40 posted on 03/09/2011 9:26:27 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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