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Spent fuel rods may have burned in blaze at nuclear plant (It's not panic time)
cnn ^ | 3/15/2011 | cnn

Posted on 03/15/2011 3:42:39 AM PDT by tobyhill

Spent fuel rods containing radioactive material may have burned in Tuesday's fire at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant -- causing a spike in radiation levels, the plant's owner said.

The blaze started Tuesday morning but was later extinguished, Tokyo Electric Power Company said. It was unclear how much radioactive material may have been emitted, or what kind of health threat that could pose.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Tuesday afternoon that radiation readings at the plant's front gate had returned to a level that would not cause "harm to human health."

Japanese officials earlier told the International Atomic Energy Agency that radioactivity was "being released directly into the atmosphere" during the fire, according to a statement from the UN watchdog organization.

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1 posted on 03/15/2011 3:42:47 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Sure glad I’m not the insurance company on the hook for this mess.


2 posted on 03/15/2011 3:43:59 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: tobyhill

‘Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Tuesday afternoon that radiation readings at the plant’s front gate had returned to a level that would not cause “harm to human health.”’

That seems like a pretty lousy measurement standard.

Wouldn’t the radiation level at the front gate have a whole lot to do with which way the wind is blowing?


3 posted on 03/15/2011 3:51:24 AM PDT by DB
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To: tobyhill

There’s got to be more to this, I can’t see how basically metal fuel rods burn, and if they did how they could be extinguished so easily. They would most likely melt and end up like the elephant’s foot under Chernobyl.


4 posted on 03/15/2011 3:57:09 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Why is the world waiting so long for the one action that would stop these reactors cold. Given his ability to shut down the US free economy so well, why not just drop (.)bama into the reactor site. Instant shut down.


5 posted on 03/15/2011 4:00:13 AM PDT by Mouton (Government expands to fill any voids in freedom.)
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To: Joe Boucher

http://www.aflac.com/aboutaflac/corporateoverview/aflacjapan.aspx


6 posted on 03/15/2011 4:00:51 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: dynoman

In one reactor the rods were completely out of water for 2 1/2 hours due to a rapid fall in water level. Not exactly sure which # that was. Right now the rods are reported to be only 1/2 submerged. So they assume it has at least suffered partial meltdown.


7 posted on 03/15/2011 4:17:51 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Mouton

Germany just announced they are shutting down their oldest reactors.


8 posted on 03/15/2011 4:19:11 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Yes I read that in secondary sources but never did find a primary source that stated the fuel rods were completely uncovered. Do you have a primary source that states that as fact?


9 posted on 03/15/2011 4:20:56 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Sorry. Miss read your post. Gonna get some rest after this. Basically in Reactor #4 the temperature of the rod storage pool water got to 84 C which was twice normal. Apparently the cooling had been slowed or shut down. A rod got to hot, exploded and had a small fire. Then as you pointed out, they put the fire out within an hour or two. But you do not just put that fire out. And a couple of reports claimed the fire just put its self out. Well, those fires just do not leave that easy. And new reports are that a spent fuel pool in #4 is currently boiling.
10 posted on 03/15/2011 4:25:05 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: dynoman
There is this link from Drudge. Kyoda News quoting TEMPCO.

Blast heard at Fukushima's No.2 reactor: gov't

Ouch. Apparently referring to reactor #2. The one that had an explosion below the reactor. Rods completely above water for more then 2 1/2 hours.

11 posted on 03/15/2011 4:33:15 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: tobyhill

Reuters:

TEPCO says there is radiation reading of 100 millisieverts near the no.4 reactor building. uk.reuters.com


12 posted on 03/15/2011 4:35:24 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Well, if there is one thing this whole situation with Japan's nuclear plant has ensured, it is that the enviroweenies will now have ABSOLUTE evidence (in their minds) as to why our country should NEVER build any more nuclear plants. I wouldn't count on the U.S. EVER having nuclear power plants in the foreseeable future...
13 posted on 03/15/2011 4:40:57 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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“There’s got to be more to this, I can’t see how basically metal fuel rods burn, and if they did how they could be extinguished so easily. They would most likely melt and end up like the elephant’s foot under Chernobyl.”

Let’s just say that this is an example of “just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it cannot happen”. Some metals, like depleted uranium, will spontaneously combust when they are sufficiently finely divided, eg; powdered. That’s in air. If the temps are high enough at the point where these metals are exposed, including the zirconium cladding, water can dissasociate into hydrogen & oxygen, just as with electrolysis. That’s a potent explosive mixture right there. But in any event the process supplies free oxygen. And generally speaking, almost anything that can oxidize can, under the right conditions, oxidize fast enough to catch fire or catch fire to what’s next to it.


14 posted on 03/15/2011 4:46:42 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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To: tobyhill

I’m basically ignoring the major media on the nuke plants’ status. They’ve been talking about an impending meltdown - since Saturday morning!


15 posted on 03/15/2011 4:50:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

“Well, if there is one thing this whole situation with Japan’s nuclear plant has ensured, it is that the enviroweenies will now have ABSOLUTE evidence (in their minds) as to why our country should NEVER build any more nuclear plants. I wouldn’t count on the U.S. EVER having nuclear power plants in the foreseeable future...”

I’m very sorry to have to agree with you. Nuclear is probably screwed for *another* couple of decades, at least. And the US will immutably pay the price in GDP, opportunities for growth (eg; jobs), external energy dependence and the resulting burden of higher fuel costs, and indeed, plenty of cancers and various lung diseases from people breathing the crap output by coal power plants. Plenty more than would occur from nuclear, that is a certainty. This is a heavy, heavy door being closed, I’m afraid.


16 posted on 03/15/2011 4:53:12 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Which has more wrinkles? Helen Thomas' face or Lawrence O'Donnells' panties?)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Meanwhile Iran’s nuclear program will be cheered on by the same anti-nuclear American left.


17 posted on 03/15/2011 5:04:12 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: DB

“Wouldn’t the radiation level at the front gate have a whole lot to do with which way the wind is blowing?”

Depends on the type of radiation. The wind will affect alpha particles, but gamma radiation will not be affected by the wind.


18 posted on 03/15/2011 5:11:47 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: tobyhill

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19 posted on 03/15/2011 5:18:36 AM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of ppl adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: wolfcreek

Glad I don’t have any Aflac stock nor any stock of G.E. or any nuke plant builders.


20 posted on 03/15/2011 5:29:28 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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