Posted on 03/15/2011 7:26:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Same with women.
We are quite a spectacle in the grocery store, one cart for the baby in the carseat, one for groceries, and two “shopper in training” carts for my little girls. Six people and a procession of four carts. We are like our own little parade through Cub Foods.
lol. Wow....that was not expressed correctly at all.
Bingo. This is why I have only one child....
I can provide for my one child a pretty good lifestyle, upbringing ang education. I would have to decrease what I can offer each child for every other I have besides my wife and I have very little time. I work two jobs (1 full 1 part)and she works a fulltime and goes to school part-time.
Our parents and many baby boomers were the ones to reep the rewards of the bubble-burst-bubble economies. They bought their first house for $14,000 sold it for $32,000,built there second home for $26,000 and sold it for $230,000, built their third home for $135,000 and just sold it for $198,000. Most of us today won’t see that kind of returns in our lifetime.
I am so upside down on the my home that I won’t see anything like the growth they experienced for many years if ever. Can’t sell or refinance. If the need ever arises to have to relocate for work we are screwed. Our mobility is lost for many years to come. I really wish I had looked at a home as shelter and not get caught up in the investment hype. Oh well.
Anyway, yup, I love being a father but relistically I can’t bring another child into this world. Can’t afford it and don’t want to bring them into the misery headed our way.
Wow! 5 girls...We’re hoping for a girl. I have two sons and my brother has 3 sons. No girls yet for any of the grandparents. We’ll find out the sex this Thursday. Just healthy is all I care about...
Look at what both Pharaoh & Herod did to babies under age 2. They're all in the same league.
I have 5 kids and money has been tight due to the economy too. But the scenario you’re talking about is the same scenario most people are in. Yet they still have more than 1 kid. It’s just a cop out. It really is. Everybody is busy. Making more money so you can have more “stuff” is fleeting. If you’re truly serious about doing your part for the future of the country, then you’ll have more kids. Otherwise, it’s just talk. That’s your responsibility to produce more good productive people. At just 1 kid, you have no legacy. It takes at least 2 kids to replace your family. When you’re gone, your child will be the lone representative of your family.
Good luck!
We’ve contemplated the idea of adopting maybe 2 boys from Russia.
I’ll say something else about this issue. When you have a bunch of kids and you walk into some place, you suddenly become the majority there and have more power. Your kids have siblings that can come to their aid. You as an elderly person will have the benefit of having a bunch of kids to help, assuming you raised them right.
Grew up with three siblings. I agree with you. My wife is an only child and we are the care fivers for seven octogenarians; aunts and uncles who never married. My side of the family has a lot less elder stress. It is worth having more kids. I will have someone to clean up after me when I am old.
No, Pat Buchanan addressed it better a decade earlier in "The Death of the West".
Essentially Setyn's book was a re-write of Buchanan's with the twist of more obsessive focus on the role of Islam in Europe, and a claim for American exceptionalism (unwarrented in my opinion) taked on at the end.
Of course Steyn is a very amusing writer, and lacks the baggage that Buchanan has, but it is still a gross inaccuracy to overlook Buchanan's prior work on the topic.
MrInvisible, I am happy that you are happy with five children and are making ends meet but you are making a couple of generalizations when you say “Making more money so you can have more “stuff” is fleeting” and “If you’re truly serious about doing your part for the future of the country, then you’ll have more kids”.
First, I don’t make more money for more stuff. I work two jobs to save for my son’s college education. Which is pretty expensive even with the pre-plan. I don’t know what your daycare arrangments are but I live 1800 miles away from any of my immediate family so, day care is a necessity and very expensive weekly.
Second, as for being serious about doing something for my country. Well I also work two jobs to replace the income of the one I had for 12 years and could not replace. I collected unemployment for 4 mos and felt guilty doing it so I did what I had to to get off of the government dole ( I thought this was the right thing for my country). Also, I needed the second jod to continue to pay my mortgage so that I wouldn’t foreclose (I didn’t want my neighbors to pay for my tough luck). My wife goes to school (less time and more bills) because there are no other jobs in our area in her chosen and educated career and the writing is on the wall as work is slowing down and they are being forced to take unpaid furloughs. Again she needs to re-educate so that she can find work in another field and hope that she doesn’t lose her job until she is done. We do not want to forclose on our mortgage obligation.
Now I could just do the right thing for my country and walk away from my home. Quit my second job, have my wife quit school file for bankruptcy and then have another couple of children.
Unfortunately, my moral compass will not let me hang my creditors and quit on my obligations when neither them nor myself are responsible for my current predicament. But the predicament I currently find myself in allows me one choice and that is to not take on any more expenses and unfortunately that means another child. My son will carry-on my name proudly. No child leaves no legacy.
Call it a cop out if you will.
I’ve always thought it was funny that they need a huge birthrate to try to keep their socialist schemes running yet they’re all for killing babies, tons of birth control and massive de-population.
Hey that was when unions were strong and the USA was not outsourcing jobs to the world.
That was BEFORE unions got TOO STRONG, and ruined the business and helped elect democrats to get more taxes and hire more government workers to give more union dues to ...the unions.
“Poland has a TFR of 1.26”
I first started going to Poland just after it overthrew its Communist overlords. One of the great pleasures was the sight of so many young people. I learned that Poland had had a population explosion in the 1980’s.
No one was quite sure why but it seemed to have been associated with the hope and optimism brought by the Polish Pope.
I’ve seen a lot of good and positive things happening in Poland in the intervening years. But it is sad that there are fewer children.
At its heart, the Left is obsessed with diminishing the human population. They are a cult of death.
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The Death Eaters! ( We should call them what they are!)
From what I’ve read and heard from others who’ve been to Poland the EU is busy turning Poland into a dumping ground for African refugees. One such guy got half a dozen Polish women infected with HIV. On that same note, my wife has 2 friends from Italy and they are just heart-broken over what’s happening to Italy. They say it’s too expensive to have kids, that people cant’ afford homes yet the gov rolls out the red carpet for immigrants who have lots of kids while Italians can’t afford to have any. My wife mentioned we’ve thought about moving to Czech as that’s my heritage but they said the EU is busy importing 55 million Africans into central Europe.
“It also shifts power to those who DO have children.”
Exactly. And their my friends is the reason why infanticide will eventually go away in America.
“Look at any major city in the U.S. to find hordes of low income children.”
Yes, but also look at family size for conservative religious.
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