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NH, RI, NJ buck trend, propose cigarette tax cut
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 03/18/2011 | Unknown

Posted on 03/18/2011 4:52:43 AM PDT by arderkrag

CONCORD, N.H. – Bucking a national trend of raising cigarette taxes, New Hampshire, New Jersey and Rhode Island have considered reducing theirs, hoping to draw smokers from other states and increase revenue.

Supporters argue reducing the tax by a dime would make New Hampshire more competitive with Maine, Vermont and Massachusetts, while opponents say that even if the state experienced higher sales as a result it still would lose millions of dollars in revenue.

It's very unusual for states to lower the tax, University of Illinois at Chicago economics professor Frank Chaloupka says. The increase in sales isn't enough to offset the drop in state tax revenue, he says.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; US: New Hampshire; US: New Jersey; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: cigarette; freedom; liberty; newhampshire; newjersey; nh; nj; rhodeisland; ri; taxcut; taxes; tobacco

1 posted on 03/18/2011 4:52:45 AM PDT by arderkrag
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To: arderkrag

The smoking lamp is lit...


2 posted on 03/18/2011 5:01:24 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: arderkrag

Good, and the next thing that needs to happen is to get rid of the stupid smoking bans in the outdoors, or on private property.


3 posted on 03/18/2011 5:11:52 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: arderkrag

A tax reduction? Won’t that hurt the black market? What’s the world coming too?


4 posted on 03/18/2011 5:12:24 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: arderkrag
Ten cents? That won't motivate anyone make the trip across the state line. Now lower it by a buck, and you will need traffic cops at every border crossing.

What is most interesting is that someone in New England had the brilliant thought that lower taxes means more sales. (Too bad they quoted the socialist from Chicago who throws a wet blanket on the idea.)

5 posted on 03/18/2011 5:13:46 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911

” (Too bad they quoted the socialist from Chicago who throws a wet blanket on the idea.) “

I’d imagine that he can’t fathom lowering taxes of any kind - and the fact that it’s the tax on the evil weed just makes it a hundred times more ghastly for him...


6 posted on 03/18/2011 5:21:04 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Semper911

NH my state, needs to lower the cig tax more and do the same with the tax on booze.


7 posted on 03/18/2011 5:23:09 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: arderkrag

“...economics professor Frank Chaloupka says. The increase in sales isn’t enough to offset the drop in state tax revenue, he says.

Well with that logic why not increase the tax to $20 a pack then the state will get less sales but an increase in tax revenue.

And this guy is an “economics” professor?


8 posted on 03/18/2011 5:31:10 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: kevslisababy

Indeed. It’s long past time for the anti-tobacco propoganda to end.


9 posted on 03/18/2011 5:39:58 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
"And this guy is an “economics” professor?"

Well, at least he is at University of Illinois at Chicago, but it is more of a trade school that a fancy learnin' college. His full time job is 3rd shift cashier at 7/11.

10 posted on 03/18/2011 5:42:14 AM PDT by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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To: arderkrag

Do you suppose they have finally figured out that they have hit the point of diminishing return?


11 posted on 03/18/2011 5:48:48 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Flavious_Maximus

I think it is a tenet of liberal economists that the primary purpose of any economy is to provide funding for government so government can properly manage the economy. Furthermore, a properly managed economy is one where “bad” behavior is discouraged by higher taxes, no one gets “too rich” and the peasants toil happily as directed by their betters. The law of supply and demand, in the liberal view, should be applied to maximize tax revenues. In other words, tax it until hurts, then back off just a tad.


12 posted on 03/18/2011 5:58:48 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Semper911
Winston's cost $ 4.80 a pack in New Hampshire. They are over $ 8.00 a pack in Massachusetts. I haven't bought a pack of smokes in Mass for over 2 years.
13 posted on 03/18/2011 6:16:34 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: HenpeckedCon

I didn’t know the difference was that great. Do you buy them a few cartons at a time? I typically come up with a list for the family and drop at least $1000 on miscellaneous items.


14 posted on 03/18/2011 6:22:51 AM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: MSF BU
One of my coworkers lives in NH. He picks me up a carton weekly.
15 posted on 03/18/2011 6:39:47 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: HenpeckedCon

What a fine American! I do the same for large volume ammunition purchases that my friends in the Gay State make. I take delivery and we transfer whenever I get down there, or they get up here.


16 posted on 03/18/2011 6:44:39 AM PDT by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: MSF BU
God Bless NH! Ammo, booze, soda, etc., so close by and without the bullsh*t (sales tax and bottle deposits and...).

Too bad guns and automobiles can't be “transferred” like other items.

17 posted on 03/18/2011 6:50:35 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: HenpeckedCon

They are around $8.50 in RI.


18 posted on 03/18/2011 7:13:20 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Semper911
Ten cents? That won't motivate anyone make the trip across the state line.

It would definitely entice a lot of bulk buyers though. A lot of people in New York City were known to drive to Virginia and back (paying out the rear end in tolls and gas to do so) because they saved a ton of money buying smokes in bulk.

Also keep in mind that NH imposes no sales tax, and since those states are small and quick to drive through, it will encourage a lot of people who are smokers, and who need to buy expensive durable goods and bring them home, to do so in NH.

19 posted on 03/18/2011 7:31:11 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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