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Fukushima one week on: Situation 'stable', says IAEA | Shameful media panic
The Register - UK ^ | 18th March 2011 12:56 GMT | Lewis Page

Posted on 03/18/2011 11:13:39 AM PDT by brityank

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To: Eye of Unk
I used the adventure as a intelligence gathering tool, I saw first hand certain attacks upon FR of what I would say are groups with an agenda of internet pacification. Now should an event occur of a simultaneous attack upon several dozen nuclear powerplants in America were to happen I have a better handle on identifying how they will flood FR to keep for the best description of “Keeping us in the dark”. The next Moslem attack may be just pure simple kamikaze runs such as an airliner into a cooling tower, a ship with explosives near the cooling waters, or something as ingenious as an air cannon or trebuchet with explosives. Get a dozen plants all saying “no damage” and then you get one group on one side egging on panic for sensationalism (MSM) and other groups that wants everybody to ignore it, take your sleepy pills and go back to bed.

With all due respect I have no idea what you just wrote. I can't tell if you are pro or anti-nuke, if you are criticizing the "Oh no the sky is falling" people or the "nothing to see here" crowd. Maybe it's just that your typed so fast the bad grammar, run on sentences make it difficult to read (things I am guilty of myself) or if because it's friday night you've been drinking.

It looks good, what you said. Sounds very intelligent. But I cant understand it. Almost like an Obama speech.

But I know you're a Freeper so it's not an Obama speech so whatever it is you said... you've probably got a good point.

I don't mean that as an insult. I'll try again to read it after I get some sleep. Anyways, if you are pro-nuke... I see a silver lining... and God Bless Japan and America. Goodnight!

121 posted on 03/19/2011 1:55:07 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Sorry, one of my first posts of the morning without coffee.

Basically I saw FR being used by the MSM trolls who were instigating rumors, panic, being the experts so to speak.

But they were playing both sides working to the middle.

The MSM saying its doomsday, the pacifists saying its nothing.

We all know Obama wants to deconstruct America any way possible but one must be aware he is indeed doing it in an egineered fashion so nobody gets too bent out of shape, and that is also why he is still the faux POTUS, he pushes just hard enough for his agenda.

His supporters will use any disaster to also herd Americans in a political direction as well.

What if there really was radioactive materials hitting USA?

I bet only if you had Obamacare you would get the potassium iodide pills.


122 posted on 03/19/2011 2:11:10 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: Eye of Unk
Yeah, I've heard reports that Obama has hired people to post in the social networks. They're probably coming into FR as well.

I was even discussing Libya with an Obama supporter in FR yesterday or the day before. She was claiming that Obama never even mentioned military action on Libya. Well, today she's eating crow. I got indications that she was not even from the USA and English not her first language. Probably posting in FR from Europe somewhere and claiming to be an American in the USA.

123 posted on 03/19/2011 2:16:44 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Eye of Unk
What if there really was radioactive materials hitting USA?

I bet only if you had Obamacare you would get the potassium iodide pills.

Wow, that's a scary thought

124 posted on 03/19/2011 2:18:11 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

My FRiend please keep that very much in mind, its ALWAYS been control and leverage from SCOTUS on down with Obama.

We all know it but few offer a long term prediction lest we be branded as tin foil hatters.

Look at FEMA, they are the ones who are stockpiling, they will have the emergency foods when all else may be contaminated, in summary Obama, his regime, his “handlers” will use a crisis like this as cattle prods, I kid thee not.


125 posted on 03/19/2011 2:25:59 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: brityank

“I don’t see this being “over” for at least a couple of months. It will take at least that long to get the pools stable and cool”

If I’m not mistaken, didn’t it take more than TWENTY YEARS to get the damaged reactor at Three Mile Island cooled down to the point where they could clean out the inside of it? And technicians there faced no damage to the building that surrounded it. Has the damaged TMI reactor been rebuilt? Will it operate again?

One does not need to have much technical education (and, admittedly, I don’t) to take a look at the smoking hulks of the buildings at Fukushima (sp?) to realize that they are faced with far more damage there than at TMI — and multiply that “times four”.

None of those damaged reactors can be rebuilt. And it’s going to take decades to cool them down and clean them up.

That plant will never be used again — with the possible exception of reactors 5 and 6, which are some distance away from “the first four”.

Just sayin’....


126 posted on 03/19/2011 7:41:13 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Grumplestiltskin
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t it take more than TWENTY YEARS to get the damaged reactor at Three Mile Island cooled down to the point where they could clean out the inside of it?

Indeed it did - inside the reactor and containment building.

All of the Fukushima reactors were scrammed, and there is no indication that any of the containment vessels are breached. The problem is in the Spent Fuels Pools, and the loss of water surrounding the rods.

As far as I've been able to determine, I do agree that it's doubtful they will repair 1, 2, or 3 back into service. 4 was shut down and cold for maintenance, so all of its fuel assemblies were in the Spent Fuels Pool. 5 and 6 are in good shape, and providing minimal power to maintain their internal cooling systems. I expect that 4, 5, and 6 will be back online in the next two or so years; Japan needs the power for its infrastructure.

Don't buy into the Maggot Stream Media's screaming faces that this occurrence is as bad as TMI or Chernobyl - nothing close.

127 posted on 03/19/2011 11:13:52 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: FreedomPoster
They really tried to sign me up for that. Not sad I didn’t do it, but somewhat wish I had. Does that make any sense?

Trust me, you dodged a bullet. Six years of constant nagging and being treated like a child. (A child that can operate and maintain a 30,000 shaft horsepower nuclear propulsion train mind you.)

Too bad Rickover didn't get his way in having all his operators being warrant officers. I'd probably still be in.

128 posted on 03/19/2011 5:19:08 PM PDT by OA5599
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To: OA5599

Yes, knowing myself better now, I would have been incredibly poorly suited for it all, temperamentally.


129 posted on 03/19/2011 6:34:36 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: brityank
I have never been so ashamed to call myself a journalist.

I'm waiting for the US press to apologize for electing Obama. Obama is the worst national disaster we will ever see in our lifetime. Likely I'll die of old age before the apology comes.

130 posted on 03/20/2011 6:38:58 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: PA Engineer
All that was REALLY needed was enough power to keep the RCICS operational ... they had about 8 hours after the loss of the diesels (if nothing else had gone wrong or had been damaged, which we do not know ... the spent fuel pools are a different issue and we might STILL be where we are/in trouble on account of them, the SFR pools) ...

From: allthingsnuclear.org/post/3788886037/nuclear-crisis-at-fukushima

The boiling water reactors at Fukushima are protected by a Reactor Core Isolation Cooling (RCIC) system, which can operate without AC power because it is steam-driven and therefore does not require electric pumps.

However, it does require DC power from batteries for its valves and controls to function.

If battery power is depleted before AC power is restored, however, the RCIC will stop supplying water to the core and the water level in the reactor core could drop. If it drops far enough, the core would overheat and the fuel would become damaged. Ultimately, a “meltdown” could occur: The core could become so hot that it forms a molten mass that melts through the steel reactor vessel. This would release a large amount of radioactivity from the vessel into the containment building that surrounds the vessel.


131 posted on 03/20/2011 9:11:08 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: brityank
All of the Fukushima reactors were scrammed, and there is no indication that any of the containment vessels are breached.
Oops ... is your core showing - or is that just the top of the Reactor Vessel you have glowing there:

What's peaking out 3 over and 1 up from the left? (facing sea-side)

Extrapolating the source, it would kinda be in the center of the building, kinda where the GE Mark I containment system design puts the reactor in the building.

The image full-sized was released by DigitalGlobe a couple days ago now ...

www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/featured_images/japan_earthquaketsu_fukushima_daiichi_march18_2011_dg.jpg

132 posted on 03/20/2011 9:18:56 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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Bump


133 posted on 03/20/2011 10:34:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: _Jim

I understand. The entire plant infrastructure was washed away by the “tsunami”.


134 posted on 03/20/2011 10:44:31 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: _Jim
Thanks for the pic. I went back to the full sized one, and saw a similar artifact in Unit 1 on top of the area where the reactor would be. Also it appears that both have a black shadow cast to the right when I zoom in, showing them both to be outside of the reactor.

Since the reports of the radioactivity levels have dropped, I don't think it likely the containment has breached. I could be wrong, and we should know by the end of the month.

135 posted on 03/20/2011 8:36:00 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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