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The will of the people mean nothing to the left, they lose they flee then lose again then just find a judge. This is why our Judges are most impotent. Be careful when you cast your vote. There is a difference between Democrat and Republican.
1 posted on 03/19/2011 6:20:25 AM PDT by BillKneer
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To: BillKneer

You can’t get a job in government today if you are not a socialist.


2 posted on 03/19/2011 6:22:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BillKneer

Judge Sumi will get smacked down by the appeals court. Up hers!


3 posted on 03/19/2011 6:23:46 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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The curious step that the Republicans could take....walk back in and start the process all over. Course, this would mean that fourteen Democratic state senators have to pack up a bag in a hurry...hustle off to a Illinois water-park resort, and eat mostly pizza for four weeks.

It would not shock me if this suddenly occurred in June and charged up the public again within the state. The positive side is that this resort in Illinois might make a fair amount of profit for 2011.


4 posted on 03/19/2011 6:24:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: BillKneer

Nothing but a stalling tactic.

Give notice and do it again.


5 posted on 03/19/2011 6:25:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: BillKneer

From what I understand of it, is that this activist “judge” made a ruling that is 100% off base and thus without merit.

SOP for these people.


6 posted on 03/19/2011 6:25:08 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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I heard this morning that the Republics plan to just pass it again, this time with the dems there.


10 posted on 03/19/2011 6:31:56 AM PDT by Mercat ( I remain nestled in cognitive dissonance)
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To: BillKneer

Has the Governor sent out the layoff notices yet?


12 posted on 03/19/2011 6:35:45 AM PDT by hockea
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In TN they don’t have to list their party and that creates BIG issues for conservative voters. Unless you know for sure what party they are from best to vote NO on retaining them. They count on our ignorance of their party to stay in office.


13 posted on 03/19/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: BillKneer

This looks like an opportunity for a two-fer. The Governor can now layoff all the idiot teachers and then get the bill back after the appeal.
This would be a great time for new legislation simply banning collective bargaining for all public employees. The Commie Unions have to see this coming.


14 posted on 03/19/2011 6:54:53 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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I've found this very strange. Most legislatures, including the Congress, have the authority to make there own rules of proceedings.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

For the Judiciary to have the authority to rule on the procedures used in a legislature seems completely unprecedented.

I don't know the Wisconsin Constitution, but for the federal courts, the Justice Department would lack standing and the court would lack authority to rule.

Any lawyers out there know of any precedents or the Wisconsin Constituion?

16 posted on 03/19/2011 7:03:11 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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Wrong headline. It should read: "Wisconsin Judge Rules State Legislative Process Unconstitutional"

This was not about the "will of the people" but rather the Constitutional legislative process in WI.

Were it about the "will of the people" the myriad demonstrations at the Capitol of Madison would reveal that democracy, in it's purest form, would have turned WI into a socialist state.

17 posted on 03/19/2011 7:04:33 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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I just looked it up, and this is what the Wisconsin Constitution reads:

Article IV.

Rules; contempts; expulsion. SECTION 8. Each house may determine the rules of its own proceedings, punish for contempt and disorderly behavior, and with the concurrence of two− thirds of all the members elected, expel a member; but no member shall be expelled a second time for the same cause.

This case should go nowhere.

18 posted on 03/19/2011 7:07:10 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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The "will of the people" can certainly be unconstitutional.

If it were the people's will to take your guns, for example.

19 posted on 03/19/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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Look. It’ the role of the court to determine if any law passed by the government (no matter how overwhelmingly popular) is constitutional. We all get that.

With that said, the ruling by this Wisconsin Judge is just pure intellectual sloth at best or party politics at worse. If it’s the latter, the woman should be removed from her position. Judges are not supposed to respond to the politics of the issue.

True, by rule (not by law...by rule) if the Senate was in normal session a certain amount of time must be given before any vote can occur. However, the rules do not apply when the Senate is in ‘Special Session’ and the Senate was in Special session. Therefore, no time was needed to call for debate and vote. I’ve read over this at least ten times now. It’s more clear than Wisconsin is cold.

I understand the Dems are frustrated with the new collective bargaining laws in Wisconsin. I even respect their spirited opposition to it. Still, on some level don’t they know that sometimes the other side gets to win day? And, that’s all that has happened this time....Walker and the GOP won the day....for now.

As a winners in this scrum, we GOPers certainly don’t insist that we also get to win over their hearts and minds, too. But, we absolutely do insist they lose with graciousness, class, and dignity...all of which they seem to be incapable of displaying.

In any case, this is a democracy. The next election is just around the corner....always. Grow up, Democrats!!


21 posted on 03/19/2011 7:11:27 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: BillKneer

How can a county judge’s ruling have jurisdiction over an entire state?


24 posted on 03/19/2011 7:18:22 AM PDT by Jay W
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25 posted on 03/19/2011 7:29:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The Republican majority will prevail here in a revote if necessary.


32 posted on 03/19/2011 8:09:29 AM PDT by thethirddegree (Islam is a vile, barbaric, perverted, depraved,seditious cult invented by a murdering pedophile)
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The liberal process for wearing down your opponent and get your way:

First, call the concept racist, sexist, or some other “ist”.

Second, if that does not work, start screaming “Do it for the children!!” or “It will hurt the middle class!”.

Third, if that does not work, just call it “unconstitutional” since liberals interpret anything they do not like as “unconstitutional” regardless of whether it is or not.

That pretty much sums it up. Did I miss any liberal orthodoxy steps?

JoMa


33 posted on 03/19/2011 8:10:30 AM PDT by joma89
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To the liberals, the courts are supposed to be a super veto against conservative/Republican legislation which, in the view of liberals, goes too far.

The relevant laws, or legal precedents, mean nothing to the liberals. Liberals want judges to impose same-sex marriage, impose and endorse draconian EPA rules, overturn state immigration laws even if the language mirrors federal immigration law, impose requirements for multi-lingualism, overturn laws which define and restrain union bargaining rights, etc.

If the liberals had their way, there would be no legislation and no need for elected representatives. In their utopia, judges would decide everything.

The liberals want judges to make policy choices and enshrine those into legal precedent, based on ruling that a legislature or executive acted unconstitutionally in enacting certain legislation or policies. And that’s where the liberals are all wrong. Judges are not supposed to make policy choices. Judges are supposed to administer law, not make policy choices.


38 posted on 03/19/2011 8:49:37 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Kneel before the queen you filthy, uneducated rabble!


40 posted on 03/19/2011 8:56:41 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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