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Liberal Democrats in uproar over Libya action (Kucinich calls for Obama's impeachment)
Politico ^ | 2011-03-20 | John Bresnahan & Jonathan Allen

Posted on 03/20/2011 8:30:36 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

A hard-core group of liberal House Democrats is questioning the constitutionality of U.S. missile strikes against Libya, with one lawmaker raising the prospect of impeachment during a Democratic Caucus conference call on Saturday.

Reps. Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.), Donna Edwards (Md.), Mike Capuano (Mass.), Dennis Kucinich (Ohio), Maxine Waters (Calif.), Rob Andrews (N.J.), Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas), Barbara Lee (Calif.) and Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.) “all strongly raised objections to the constitutionality of the president’s actions” during that call, said two Democratic lawmakers who took part.

Kucinich, who wanted to bring impeachment articles against both former President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney over Iraq — only to be blocked by his own leadership — asked why the U.S. missile strikes aren’t impeachable offenses.

Kucinich also questioned why Democratic leaders didn’t object when President Barack Obama told them of his plan for American participation in enforcing the Libyan no-fly zone during a White House Situation Room meeting on Friday, sources told POLITICO.

And liberals fumed that Congress hadn’t been formally consulted before the attack and expressed concern that it would lead to a third U.S. war in the Muslim world.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; dems; dennisthemenace; districtofcolumbia; eleanorholmesnorton; impeach; kucinich; libya; oathofoffice; unconstitutional; usurper
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To: tsowellfan
This is my understanding of the process:

Impeachment proceedings begin in the house, where it is introduced by any member and goes through the established committee process. It is debated on the floor and voted on. A majority vote is required for impeachment.

Impeachment by the House is analogous to indictment by a grand jury. It says these offenses must go to trial.

The trial is held by the Senate. A vote of at least 2/3 is required to convict, at which time the convicted is removed from office and perhaps tried in criminal court for offenses committed.

Historically, Andrew Johnson and William J Clinton were impeached. Neither was convicted.

In the matter of this president, my ideal scenario for a conviction would go like this. Impeachment is introduced in the House by a democrat. It receives a majority vote consisting of virtually all the democrats and enough republicans to carry. Same in the Senate—Convicted by mostly democrats, with enough republicans to carry.

This would help the democrats by showing voters their “remorse” for nominating Obama. It would not hurt the republicans, because it was introduced and driven by the democrats. And it would help the Republic by getting this Manchurian candidate out of office before 2012.

81 posted on 03/20/2011 10:55:20 AM PDT by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: maggief

Hey! They photoshopped the ball into the pic so we wouldn’t know that he walks like a dork.


82 posted on 03/20/2011 10:55:29 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rabscuttle385
Meanwhile the Partier-in-Chief photo in Rio:/s
83 posted on 03/20/2011 11:27:21 AM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: rabscuttle385

LIBYA, OBAMA’S BABY
Tune: “Lydia, the Tattooed Lady”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8

Libya, oh, Libya
I don’t mean Namibia
Libya, Obama’s baby
He’s a Bush, with thorns and thistles
When he sends in long-range missles

Libya, oh, Libya
Barack’s just like Dubya
Dubya, the bane of DU!
We thought we’d have peace with Obama the Great
But he’s a repeat of the bomber we hate
Is Cheney in charge at Defense or at State?
Déjà vu anew with Libya!


84 posted on 03/20/2011 11:51:05 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (The wag tailoring the doggerel)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Farrakhan Blasts Obama For Calling For Qaddafi to Step Down (Video)

Isn't it obvious? Farrakhan is a racist.

85 posted on 03/20/2011 12:31:19 PM PDT by TankerKC (I feel 271 degrees out of sync today, which isn't half bad.)
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To: maggief

Moron in action


86 posted on 03/20/2011 12:38:45 PM PDT by luvie (I'd rather be a Tea Partier than a FLEEbagger! :))
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To: CSI007

Totally agree. There ain’t no good guys in that battle. We should stay out of it and soldier up for ourselves.


87 posted on 03/20/2011 12:44:01 PM PDT by altura
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To: rabscuttle385
A hard-core group of liberal House Democrats is questioning the constitutionality of U.S. missile strikes against Libya

Who'd ever thought that the position one would expect form a conservative is taken by the "hard-core... Democrats," while conservatives themselves scream "Go baby, go!"

The world must've turned upside-down one night when I was sleeping.

88 posted on 03/20/2011 1:23:51 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: jospehm20

“I agree with Kucinich on this. I never thought I would say that.”

Well,,,, I’ve always agreed with him on his taste in women!


89 posted on 03/20/2011 1:38:40 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: OldNavyVet

It is only the House that impeaches a President.


90 posted on 03/20/2011 3:29:16 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: rabscuttle385
I wonder how many of his own he alienated on the left there were planning to vote for him again, but now won't.
I don't know how many Republican voters stayed home or voted 3rd party or stayed home in 2008 because they though McCain was too lefty, but I imagine it still helped Obama. Hopefully, that comes around full circle and helps Obama get ousted.
91 posted on 03/20/2011 3:43:47 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: mazda77

*What is that old saying about a broken clock is right on time two times a day.*

I never thought I’d one day wake up and see Freepers posting the same nonsense that Kookcinich spouts. This is the same group, after all, that defending every GOP administration attack on any/everyone for as long as I’ve been here...except for the Ron Paul kook wing of FR.

It’s sickening to see such knee-jerk partisan idiocy. Just because the dude in the hut has a D after his name, suddenly some of y’all are against war. What a joke.

If only Mubarak would have been quick enough on his feet to think of calling all those rebels in Cairo members of AQ, maybe he could’ve saved his sorry ass.

Oh, wait, most of y’all were for him staying, too.


92 posted on 03/20/2011 3:47:08 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: j-damn

OMG people - cue the commercials of Obama playing ball and drinking champagne in Brazil while bombs are dropping on Libya

PLEASE cue the commercials of the Tsunami hitting Japan while Obama plays GOLF

THIS IS AN EASY ONE

Surely this will be the campaign in 2011/12????


93 posted on 03/20/2011 3:53:02 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: rabscuttle385

Has MadCow weighed in yet or is he still milking Wisconsin?


94 posted on 03/20/2011 4:09:33 PM PDT by eaglestar
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To: nerdwithagun
Another year of this and Obama, the US we grew up in is unrecognizable.
95 posted on 03/20/2011 5:04:28 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: dagogo redux

Warriors. Come out to plaaayay!


96 posted on 03/20/2011 5:24:00 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: silentknight

97 posted on 03/20/2011 5:50:48 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: rabscuttle385

I bet these “useful idiots” never thought THEY would be thrown under comrade Obama’s big RED bus!

STE=Q


98 posted on 03/20/2011 6:47:57 PM PDT by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: rabscuttle385

sfl


99 posted on 03/20/2011 6:57:59 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: Prospero

This all is opening a can of worms that will lead to the UN sending foreign troops to Wisconsin and Arizona.


100 posted on 03/20/2011 8:14:28 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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