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Department of Defense orders GE, Rolls-Royce to stop F-35 production
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-rollsroyce-department-of-defense-orders-ge-rollsroyce-to-stop-f35-pro ^ | 3/24/11 | Tony Capaccio

Posted on 03/24/2011 5:18:40 PM PDT by Blogger

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To: JRandomFreeper

Congress both appropriates and authorizes money.

Slowing down government is fine with me too. I like gridlock. I don’t like stupid decisions like this one though because I believe it puts our military readiness at risk. You are 75% done with a program that has been funded for well over a decade. Makes no sense to cancel it now. Go after something that doesn’t involve national defense.


21 posted on 03/24/2011 5:45:32 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Want to bet Obama-lama-ding-dong does a Jimmah Cahtah and the B-1?


22 posted on 03/24/2011 5:45:32 PM PDT by NWFLConservative
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To: JRandomFreeper

It was the SCOTUS, not Congress, but a Dem is a Dem........

http://law.jrank.org/pages/9356/Presidential-Powers-Power-Impoundment.html


23 posted on 03/24/2011 5:45:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: NWFLConservative

I thought about that.


24 posted on 03/24/2011 5:47:19 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

I heard on our afternoon radio show GE is continuing development with their own money.


25 posted on 03/24/2011 5:47:41 PM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

The stop work order stops the work though while the 2011 CR is still in effect - this circumventing the expressed intent of Congress. The Secretary of Defense is not an island. I imagine he will have some splainin’ to do once Congress is back in session.


26 posted on 03/24/2011 5:49:03 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Red Badger
I think SCOTUS ruled wrong. The founders set up our nation so that one branch could 'frustrate' another.

/johnny

27 posted on 03/24/2011 5:49:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Track9

That is in GE’s statement on the subject. But not sure what all that will entail. How do you work an engine program without DoD support? There needs to be some Congressional direction.


28 posted on 03/24/2011 5:52:02 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t like the idea of a President being able to circumvent Congressional intent though - just because he doesn’t like something. That’s a king or a dictator, not a President.


29 posted on 03/24/2011 5:54:19 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t like the idea of a President being able to circumvent Congressional intent though - just because he doesn’t like something. That’s a king or a dictator, not a President.


30 posted on 03/24/2011 5:54:33 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
You are 75% done with a program that has been funded for well over a decade. Makes no sense to cancel it now. Go after something that doesn’t involve national defense.

As a former zoomie, I follow all things related to AF. I'm fine with not having a 2nd engine for the F-35. I'd rather have the money spent on unmanned fighters and bombers.

I will check out alleys before I pass them, in case the fighter mafia wants to do me in for that heresy, but I've studied air power HARD since 1980. We need to move forward to Gen 6 (unmanned) and leave gen 5 like we did the B-57 Hustler. Great plane. Wrong plane.

/johnny

31 posted on 03/24/2011 5:54:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Blogger
If the president can't appropriate the money, he can't spend it. Congress can just as easily circumvent the president. That's the genius of our constitution.

/johnny

32 posted on 03/24/2011 5:56:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Track9

They may have traction though with non-Gates folks in the government.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/03/24/354777/ge-rolls-royce-to-self-fund-f136-after-stop-work-order.html

So, maybe they will make Gates simmer down until Congress decides the engine’s fate.


33 posted on 03/24/2011 5:57:25 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Waste of money and eff GE. The USA is broke. Deal with it.


34 posted on 03/24/2011 5:58:06 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“We didn’t have these problems in WWII.”

I’m going to have to disagree. If memory serves they lost a test pilot about every 2 weeks at Edwards during that time with more at Pax.


35 posted on 03/24/2011 5:59:16 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Da Coyote

It is not just the CEO. The GE internal culture is like the mafia. Nasty people. Screw em. Screw union defense line workers too. They support Obama. The country is broke.


36 posted on 03/24/2011 6:02:07 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Blogger
The Congress's stance is that the GE/Rolls engine is included in the CR.

That BS even if it's true.

A CR ties the DoD's hands in so many ways because it doesn't have an approved FY11 budget. Pelosi and Reid did this on purpose, and left a mess for the Republicans. The CR freezes spending at the FY10 rate, and the DoD has (HAS) to pay for O&M because without doing so, it cannot operate day to day. If things were not bad enough, every service has been given about $30 Billion in "efficiencies" (read - CUTS!) it has to implement.

It doesn't matter what the "stance" of the CR is. There isn't any money for procurement dollars because the current FY budget is nonexistent. The well is completely dry.

If things were still not bad enough, we have another (read: 3rd) war going on right now.

If things still, still! were not bad enough, the DoD has to go to Congress with a "supplemental" request to pay for all the crap (including operating bills that exceeded the approved budget) that came up beyond the approved FY10 budget!

If they want "jobs" and such from the DoD teat - it needs its current budget finally approved. ALL procurement will soon come to a stop unless the CRs stop.

That is just reality.

37 posted on 03/24/2011 6:03:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: JRandomFreeper

Okay, understood. But, the small amount that you might save today would add up to a projected $20B long term savings per the GAO’s estimates. So, spend a much much smaller amount today and preserve your future savings, or go after a short term drop in the bucket compared to whatever else they are spending these days to say you were ‘fiscally responsible’. Story doesn’t sell economically.


38 posted on 03/24/2011 6:03:00 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Locomotive Breath
I don't see losing test pilots as a problem. Hard, but that's the truth. Fly, then fix. Nothing is perfect, and you will lose people. But that 10% costs 90%.

Spend lives, or money. Pick one.

/johnny

39 posted on 03/24/2011 6:03:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Track9

GE’s money? LOL! TARP money more like it. GE begged Obama to have the US Treasury to backstop GE’s (worthless) debt over a year ago. GE is very pro-Obama and anti-Republican. Years and years of NBC, CNBC, MSNBC and their crap. Screw GE.


40 posted on 03/24/2011 6:07:51 PM PDT by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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