Skip to comments.Op-Ed: Obama Hiding True Motives for War From American People
Posted on 03/25/2011 5:29:07 AM PDT by opentalk
Obama doesnt tell you what hes thinking. He keeps his motives to himself. Cherished long-term ideological goals are advanced as pragmatic fixes to concrete problems in the present. Now were seeing the familiar domestic pattern in foreign policy as well.
Few Americans realize that Obama has had a longstanding interest in multilateral efforts to combat war crimes and genocide. Obama would like to see a more constraining international legal regime on war crimes, even at the cost of national sovereignty, not to mention the blood and treasure of the countries doing the enforcing. In general, Obama has said little about his larger foreign policy goals.
...In 2005, Obama contacted Power after reading her book on genocide. There followed a long conversation, after which Power left Harvard to work for Obama, quickly emerging as his senior foreign policy advisor.
...Most of the commentary on Libya has focused on the tension between Obamas apparent desire to displaceQaddafi and his reluctance to admit to it. But the chief reason for this intervention is the one thats staring us in the face. Obama dithered when it was simply a matter of replacing Qaddafi, yet quickly acted when slaughter in Benghazi became the issue. What Samantha Power and her supporters want is to solidify the principle of responsibility to protect in international law. That requires a pure case of intervention on humanitarian grounds. Powers agenda would explain why Obama acted when he acted, and why the public rationale for action has not included regime change.
Yet Obama has so far been reluctant to fully explain any of this to either Congress or the American public, perhaps because he realizes that the ideological basis of his actions would not be popular if openly admitted.
(Excerpt) Read more at nation.foxnews.com ...
The first time that the US going to war is none of the voters’ business.
Mark Levin has pointed out that in the Libya war, the potus is acting within the US Constitution
but this may be the first time we’ve ever had such an incredibly flawed (and inherently dangerous) human being as a potus
I don’t ever want a President whose motives for anything require THIS kind of tortuous, elaborate and Byzantine second guessing.
It serves NO ONE if the leader of the most powerful national entity in the known universe detaches himself from the legitimate and traditionally observed practices of centuries and pursues an individual and PERSONAL agenda!!!!!!!!!
The best I could come up with is this:
"One man's Kinetic Military Action is another man's Man-Caused Disaster"
For me, the constitutional question is separate from what I’m talkingabout here. When has a president ever launched a war from vacation, without telling the American people what we’re doing and why?
His answers have been all over the map. We’re only NOW even figuring out who it is we are defending—in part, at least, it’s Al Qaeda types.
What’s next—will Obama launch Tomahawks against our own forces in Afghanistan?
Tell me...does Mark believe him to be a constitutionally eligible "potus"? Does he believe it is constitutional that no American has "standing" to question said eligibility?
Yeah...and most everything he does....
Except for looking goofy
Exactly right. I usually listen to him on my commute home. Yesterday was the first time I actually turned him off.
Thanks to modern technology the president is never “on vacation”
the US Constitution gives obama an incredible amount of power and authority. On war, no president from Nixon to obama, from republican to democrat, has been willing to give up his power through the War Powers Act.
And in normal circumstances where we are ruled by a competent potus, this is a good thing.
the framers did institute checks and balances
but who can protect a people whose lack of virtue leads them to elect as potus person as flawed as obama (can’t even begin to catalog or diagnose from arm chairs)
“We are waaay past the point where media should have started questioning Obie’s motives instead of his judgment... “
There is no longer any doubt that Tass Light is an arm of the DNC who reports into George Soros. When looking at it more closely, turns out Hillary Clinton is Soros’ bagman with unfettered access to every criminal enterprise on the planet.
Looking at it another way, the American military has become George Soros’ personal mercenaries. Libya was a coupe and we were hired to carry out Ghaddafi’s execution.
But I digress. The American people need to destroy the MSM.
“...will Obama launch Tomahawks against our own forces in Afghanistan?”
Why use a Tomahawk when you can send a bunch of lawyers who will REALLY screw the troops?
(Boy, do I wish I was being sarcastic.....)
He is within the Constitution so far and I am really surprised at the ignorance of so many here who did not know that.
This has always been true, but we've never had to worry about it, because we've never had to really worry about who is in the White House. Now we do. We don't know who this guy is, but we gave him all the power in the world.
And he is using that power to support our enemies.
Not if he isn't a natural born citizen.
but does highlight the criticality of forcing our Congress and our USSC to act
Thankfully Trump is busting this into the open - for now - until the long knives who put obama in power come after Trump and the people he loves
Now, back to the discussion of the Libya war and the legality of the potus, any potus, to act
This goes for all leftists - they NEVER disclose their true motivations, because they know those motivations would be abhorrent to the “unwashed masses”.
It’s time we started using Proverbs 26:4-5.
For far too long, we’ve let them set the premise of the argument in all situations, then we’ve argued based on that premise. (Prov 26:4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him)
It’s high time we start dismantling, or at least not accepting, their stated premise, and state boldly what we know their goals are. (Prov 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes)
With a little luck the Qaddafis will realize Soros’ role in this and take him out before they go down.
The goal is to have Israel crushing a Palestinian revolt and then crush Israel. Power is an agent of Soros.
Col. Kurtz: Are my methods unsound?
Capt. Willard: I don’t see any method at all, sir.
I think this editorial gives Premier Hussein far too much credit. I don’t think he’s smart enough about anything to have a meaningful plan to follow in Libya, or any of the many domestic troubles we have now.
I recall from just after his Immaculation, Premier Hussein said that all he intended to do was “provide the vision” of how things should be and that he would surround himself with people who would fill in the details of that vision.
You see the result of that philosophy in the ongoing debacle in Libya, the stubbornly high unemployment and the size of the debt, just to mention a few. There is no Leadership from the Regime, because Obama is incapable of leading. We all have known people who were likable and work hard but will always be followers because they are too incompetent to be a leader. That’s who’s sitting in the White House.
There is no spoon.
Rush has been lamenting that no one will go after Barky’s IDEOLOGY.
I know, we’ve been cowed into not talking about communist sympathies, much less Satanic ones, because we’ll look “kooky”.
How many of you think it’s not kooky to point out ‘bammer’s Communist sympathies, but would think it kooky to point out his willingness to do Satan’s bidding?
--One more clue to Power being the promoter of the R2P concept within the Obama administration is her history. She opened a symposium put on the by the International Coalition for The Responsibility To Protect (ICR2P) as recently as November, 2010, with a keynote address
You nailed it.
C’mon, you know what I was referring to....don’t you?
You are a better “man” than I. I turned him, and all the other “conservative” talkers, off 3 years ago during the primaries. The only time I listen to any of them is when I’m traveling.
“Whats nextwill Obama launch Tomahawks against our own forces in Afghanistan?”
Don’t put it past this treasonous sob poser. The faster he can destroy this country, the happier he’ll be. And he has to do it quickly because some of his koolaid drinkers just might awaken from their stupor.
and those wanting to use this evolving war to challenge obama’s birth, are wasting precious time and energy in the here-and-now, over an issue the Congress and courts have demonstrated an unwillingness to proceed. On the birther issue, it seems it is up to we the people, to protect ourselves, by not reelecting this man in 2012.
In 2012, we can go to our polling places in fire houses and schools and community centers, and we can overthrow the obama government.
Meanwhile, to stop the madness of his ruinous policies, we must insist that our Congress act, and critically evaluate obama’s competence to hold the power he holds, and strip him of it by impeachment if necessary
I do. But I don’t think any of it matters if he’s illegitimate to begin with. There are far too many questions about not only his birth certificate - but all of his papers. I mean, we actually have the president of the United States running around using someone else’s social security number. That is illegal.
Don’t forget Cambodia.........Nixon was bombing places with no authority too
Kurtz is out of his mind.
gathering NATO as a force to “protect citizens” of the region in a “humanitarian” operation, may just set those forces in place to be used against Israel, eventually, eh
Certainly the “UN” as a collection of despots, could easily demand it. And we have seen that this administration is led and ruled by ideologues and bureaucrats who have long believed the UN and “international law” to be greater than the US and US law.
who could have thought the prophecies of this happening, this future coalition against Israel, would develop so rapidly
Guns for oil.
It has begun
“Hamas calling on UN to stop Israeli aggression”
Beck pointed all this Stephanie Power stuff in great detail yesterday. But, of course, he’s a nut case, right?
My concern also is that in his hatred for Israel, Obama is motivated by a desire to unify the Arab world under islamism, theorizing that only disunity has thwarted the Arabs in their self-determination, i.e. annihilation of Israel.
The articles of a year or two ago about his abiding hatred of colonial states and their progeny also goes a long way toward explaining his long-term goals.
It has begun
Are we sure those 4,000 US marines headed to the Med are going to Libya?
Actually I do not believe it is a side issue. Anytime the constitutionality of any act is brought up I shake my head in disgust.
Unless or until the poe soiling the WH is deemed constitutionally eligible we are not a functioning Constitutional Republic, governed by the rule of law. IOW, the constitution is dead...burned, shredded and its ashes blown into the wind on 1-20-09.
Remove the 800 pound gorilla in the room or nothing else is relevant.
then you keep petitioning your congressman to remove obama because of his birth
and I will petition mine to control or impeach him because of the lunacy of his policies to US inteersts
let’s see which approach works better and faster
Thank you, MrB! Excellent reference.
Beck tied the dots on most of this yesterday. The woman who wrote the book mentioned in this article is married to Cass Sustine. (sp?) He's the one who thinks animals should have the right to sue their owners. Both came from Harvard. Soros is funding the group to put her theories into action and it involves Isreal and Palestinians. I probably have some of this screwed up but the point is, they know what they are doing...and don't want us to know.
We keep comparing Barry to the American presidents of the past and this imposter is a whole new breed that we can't even comprehend, IMO.
I also think the lazy MSM don't have a grasp on what they are NOT covering and what a mess we're in. I don't think he should be impeached...I think he should be arrested and tried in court for trying to overthrow our government.
In 2012, we can go to our polling places in fire houses and schools and community centers, and we can overthrow the Obama government.
Meanwhile, to stop the madness of his ruinous policies, we must insist that our Congress act, and critically evaluate Obamas competence to hold the power he holds, and strip him of it by impeachment if necessary
Couldn’t agree more. Throw the Obama regime out AND whichever Congress creatures who are either aiding and abetting him OR are not actively working against his ruiness agenda, even if they are on the Right.
Kind of makes one nostalgic for the days when the Newspeak included, "pre-dawn vertical insertion." At least that one had a bit of humor to it.
It is only illegal if legitimate, law abiding, US citizens do it. If illegal alien invaders or Barry do it, it is a constitutionally protected right, doncha know.
One of my favorite quotes:
"Only in America can a man who doesnt exist grow up to be President." -- Judi McCloud, Canada Free Press
*sigh* Neither approach will work and I think you and I both know that.
Seriously not trying to pick a fight here. The entire matter is quite simply disgusting and very upsetting to me. I have had to take frequent long term breaks from politics and political discussion over the past 3 years. It is about time for another.
His goal is the destruction of America and western civilization through his religion, Islam.