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Eligibility 101
WND ^ | March 28, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 03/28/2011 12:01:07 AM PDT by RobinMasters

Donald Trump, a potential presidential candidate in 2012, has boldly asked the question the political and media elite refuse to ask: "Where's the birth certificate?"

As a result, more people are discovering the controversy over Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility every day. Therefore, it's a good time for a refresher course or primer on what this issue is all about.

First of all, it is an irrefutable fact, despite what you might hear and read from other sources, that Obama has never released his birth certificate to the press or the American people. In fact, he has steadfastly refused to do so.

The only document Obama has offered to suggest he is a natural-born citizen actually contradicts that suggestion. But, even worse, that document, the certification of live birth, the short-form certificate, is insufficient for purposes far less significant than establishing the constitutional eligibility for the presidency. For instance, try getting a passport with one. Try qualifying for Little League with one. Try getting a driver's license with one in most states. This is a digital document, subject to fraud, easy to obtain in Hawaii without a birth actually taking place, and the state of Hawaii has never even asserted that the document the Obama campaign released was an official Hawaiian document.

There is one other piece of so-called "evidence" cited by Obama acolytes: much-to-do-about-nothing newspaper birth announcements. Since those birth announcements would be triggered automatically by the Hawaii health department with the acceptance of an application for a certification of live birth, they are totally irrelevant insofar as corroborating evidence. They only indicate that someone in Hawaii applied for a certification of live birth, a document Hawaii handed out to people with no evidence of an actual birth having taken place.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: eligibility

1 posted on 03/28/2011 12:01:07 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
ELIGIBILITY
2 posted on 03/28/2011 12:08:00 AM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: RobinMasters

There is only one reason why zERO has been getting a pass on this issue. Race.


3 posted on 03/28/2011 12:20:42 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: RobinMasters

4 posted on 03/28/2011 12:21:20 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: RobinMasters

5 posted on 03/28/2011 12:22:39 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: RobinMasters
Here is a good site to see all the basic issues and arguments.

The 0bama File

6 posted on 03/28/2011 12:24:53 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
The Latest

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

7 posted on 03/28/2011 12:42:01 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: expatguy

I just read that a little while ago. It’s very good. I love the Zaphod Beeblebrox reference for an opening.


8 posted on 03/28/2011 12:57:25 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Thanks for your support FRiend !!


9 posted on 03/28/2011 1:04:24 AM PDT by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: RobinMasters
I definitely think there is something strange about all his records being sealed. It might be that he is eligible to be president, BUT I cannot believe there isn't something very embarrassing that not only he but a lot of those around him do not want revealed. I don't know what it is but I'll bet it's shocking. My question is where is the watchdog press? Asleep at the wheel? No I think they don't really want to know the truth.

Now I cannot prove any of this and I cannot answer the questions about why Hillary didn't use this against him in the primary. As vicious as the Clintons are,you would have thought she would have clobbered him with it. My only guess is that she didn't want to anger the black vote knowing she would absolutely have to have it in the general election and she figured she could beat him without this issue. By the time she realized she was going to lose it was too late. Or just maybe Obama has some things on her. Remember Obama is part of the Chicago crowd and he might just have access to information that would destroy Hillary. Either way I'd really like to know.
10 posted on 03/28/2011 1:21:24 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: RobinMasters

We are living through the biggest fraud and crime ever perpetrated in real time. Some can’t wrap their minds around that simple fact because it’s just too far outside their sphere of acceptable reality.


11 posted on 03/28/2011 1:31:35 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: ComputerGuy

There is another.

Cowardice.


12 posted on 03/28/2011 1:47:27 AM PDT by chris37 (awesome!)
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To: RobinMasters

I never was one of those what some call “birthers” but my suspicions have
grown a lot since the beginning of this war in Libya. You may have
seen the video on YouTube where during the 2008 elections Qaddafi
practically endorsed Obama. Since then he had referred to him as his
“son”

This tells me that Qaddafi would have had enough interest in
this Obama guy to have studied his life to learn what he’s all about.
After all, he’s the President of the United States. Why would a
dictator such as Qaddafi not try to learn about the man in the White House?

A month before Obama started bombing Qaddafi - Obama requested an
increase to $1.7 million to give to Qaddafi for his military.
This was reported on Fox a few days ago.

Why such a request? Was Obama blackmailed about something?

We know Qaddafi has a lot of power in Africa. And we know that if
Obama was born in another country (because of his fame) surely that
country’s leader would already know that he’s the leader of the birth
country of Barack Obama.

As the leader of Libya Qaddafi can find things out from other nations’
leaders. Perhaps he got information about Obama’s birth certificate or
even a copy and he tried to blackmail Obama. Or maybe Obama simply
knows that Qadaffi knows something.

Why else would a nobel peace prize winner go to war? And do against
the will of his own VP which was just reported on sunday.

It’s just a theory that came to mind. Two strange things:

One, a man (not just a man but The President of the United States)
cannot find his birth certificate who also happens to have grown
up in other nations and mosques.

Two, a peace nick so peaceful that he wins a nobel peace prize before
he’d accomplished anything to earn it. Won the election on his
anti-war stance, promising to never go to war unless it’s in the
interest of our national security and he had the permission from
Congress, the UN, NATO and everybody else including Pope.
So peaceful he scared the heck out of Republicans.

Yet this same guy goes to war with Gadaffi against the will of Biden,
without going to Congress as he’d always promised and quite frankly
Vietnam was more justified. How is it this man could actually turn on a dime
so fast and coincidentally after requesting an increase of
foreign aid to Qaddafi himself a month before bombing him.

If Obama was born in another nation it’s guaranteed that nation’s
leader knows about it.


13 posted on 03/28/2011 2:09:16 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: chris37

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2695673/posts


14 posted on 03/28/2011 2:12:02 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: chris37
There is only one reason why zERO has been getting a pass on this issue. Race.

>There is another.

>Cowardice.

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Yeah Chris, they're all go-along to get-along cowards.

Zer0 bamboozled millions... gave us the old 'okee doke.'

Clueless Obama-1sm

15 posted on 03/28/2011 2:14:45 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: truthguy

“I cannot answer the questions about why Hillary didn’t use this against him in the primary”

THe most likely reason that she didn’t use the issue is because she couldn’t get the documents either. In other words, she couldn’t prove anything and realized, probably correctly, that she would be labelled as a wing-nut (or worse - a “birther”).


16 posted on 03/28/2011 2:16:39 AM PDT by pelican001
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To: pelican001

They love Obama overseas (well at least until this war) as a token of pride if Obama were born in another country that President or King or whatever would know about right now.

Here in the US it’s more difficult for the government to know those things. We’re like 50 different governments. We’re unique that way. We’re probably the only nation that does not have a national ID card (at least one of the very few).

We depend on our city’s archives of birth certificates to prove we are citizens of the US. Our ID card is our drivers license. Not so, in other countries.

It’s easier than you think to get that information. You just have to know which country to start in. Perhaps he’s Canadian. Who knows.


17 posted on 03/28/2011 2:29:52 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: pelican001

“she would be labelled as a wing-nut (or worse - a “birther”)”

What is so nuts about being a birther?
I consider myself to be a birther, and I concentrate on only two theories.
1. Obama was not born in Hawaii, or
2. His father was not as reported, and not a US citizen.

What other reason would he have to keep the certificate
sequestered?


18 posted on 03/28/2011 2:33:31 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: ComputerGuy

That right there is the bottom line.


19 posted on 03/28/2011 2:37:15 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: RobinMasters
Eligibility 101 ... Obama’s reluctance or inability to produce a birth certificate is one aspect of the issue. The far more compelling reason for ineligibility is the fact his father BHO Sr. was a foreign national; a Kenyan, and at the time a British subject ... visiting and studying in this country on a temporary student visa. Nuff said ...
20 posted on 03/28/2011 3:01:37 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: truthguy

The reason she didn’t use this against him in the primary is because challenging him on THIS would have cost her the entire black vote. Especially once he began his rise in the results. Not only the black vote in the primary, but also the general election. She was effectively “checkmated” because of Democrat race politics.

Someone will correct me if I’m wrong, I hope, but I’ve read that if we ever get to a time that less than 90% of blacks vote for something OTHER than the Democrat party, that the Dems cannot win another presidential race.

Her time to challenge him on this was when no one was paying attention to him. When she didn’t, she faced a lose/lose proposition.


21 posted on 03/28/2011 3:08:23 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: expatguy
From your link

The problem with Barack Obama's books is not so much that they are autobiographical though, it is that they contain elements of an autobiography with an exposition of Obama's political ideology. These are not simply books, they are tools, and tools with a purpose.

Obama the image was marketed to us. Seems there was an intent to commit fraud if he is found ineligible and or his background does not match his story.

22 posted on 03/28/2011 4:10:48 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: pelican001
Hillary is from the same Soros machine, may have been behind the scenes strategy deal making.
23 posted on 03/28/2011 4:21:09 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ComputerGuy
"There is only one reason why zERO has been getting a pass on this issue. Race".

White cowardice and guilt.

24 posted on 03/28/2011 4:54:05 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: ComputerGuy

There is only one reason why zERO has been getting a pass on this issue. Race.

Correction:

Two reasons:
1. Race.
2. He doesn’t have one, and the democrats know it.


25 posted on 03/28/2011 4:55:34 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: RobinMasters
I'm not a 'Birther'. BUT! IMO there is definitely something hinky about Barry's past.

And I mean all of it. From the day he was born to were he lived, to his colleges and grades, to the day he showed up in Chicago and tried to bust into 'The Machine' when 'nobody sent him'(1).

So something is there. And it AIN'T good for him so it's buried really really deep.

(1) In Chi, if 'nobody sent you', you couldn't get a job sweeping streets for the 'Streets and San Dept' (aka: getting paid to sleep for 4 hours per *work* day). You had to know someone, who knew someone, who knew someone important and all of whom would vouch for you. (Getting 'work' with the Mob was easier /s)

26 posted on 03/28/2011 5:53:23 AM PDT by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: RobinMasters

“Now you are completely up to speed. You know more than even Bill O’Reilly. Congratulations on passing “Eligibility 101.”

This is a good editorial, but Bill O’Reilly’s level of knowledge is a ridiculously low bar. I would guess the majority of Freepers know more about Obama’s eligibility than BOR does (even though the majority of Freepers don’t have a Master’s degree from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard). Most Freepers just have a lot more common sense and willingness to even-handedly ponder EVIDENCE than the arrogant know-it-all BOR does.


27 posted on 03/28/2011 5:58:51 AM PDT by DrC
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To: ComputerGuy
There is only one reason why zERO has been getting a pass on this issue. Race.

Thats the only thing that got him elected. A white Irishman named Barry O'bama with his qualifications would have been laughed off the scene immediately.
28 posted on 03/28/2011 6:12:38 AM PDT by crosshairs (You can say what you want about the South, but you never hear of anyone retiring and moving north.)
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To: RobinMasters
TOKEN PRESIDENT
29 posted on 03/28/2011 6:17:55 AM PDT by jetson
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To: RobinMasters

“First of all, it is an irrefutable fact, despite what you might hear and read from other sources, that Obama has never released his birth certificate to the press or the American people. In fact, he has steadfastly refused to do so.”

Of much greater import, he has steadfastly FOUGHT in court battle after court battle to avoid having to do so. It’s one thing to passively fail to take action (Obama seems adept at this), but quite another to invest large amounts of resources to avoid taking that action—ESPECIALLY when it would be far less time-consuming and inexpensive simply to authorize release of the long form BC.

Obama himself has offered the most convincing reason for why all Americans should be skeptical about his eligibility: “The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.” What is POTUS hiding????


30 posted on 03/28/2011 6:21:19 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Daisyjane69
"if we ever get to a time that less than 90% of blacks vote for something OTHER than the Democrat party"

If we ever get to the point where blacks vote individually rather than as a collective, then we will know they have finally broken from their chains.

31 posted on 03/28/2011 6:28:32 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: truthguy

Hillary had enough delegates to win the nomination at the time the Senate Judiciary Committee met in Jan. Feb. 2008 to determine eligibility of McCain and Obama following the NYT article questioning McCain’s eligibility in Dec. 2007. She did not need to expose Obama then. Dems and Repubs signed McCaskill’s SR 511 violating the Constitution.
After Dean forced Hillary’s delegates at the convention to switch to Obama it was too late. She and McCain got screwed. If she exposes Obama now she and Congress will be guilty of violating the Constitution and accessories to a crime. They want to keep it all quiet. TRAITORS!!!


32 posted on 03/28/2011 8:28:36 AM PDT by charlie72
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To: Daisyjane69
The reason she didn’t use this against him in the primary is because challenging him on THIS would have cost her the entire black vote.

I would tend to agree but I'm not certain it wasn't something else. You have to remember how dirty Chicago politics are and have been. Will we ever know? I sure hope so but I'm not counting on it.
33 posted on 03/28/2011 10:18:54 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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