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Are you an online tax cheat?
The Los Angeles Times ^ | March 22, 2011 | Unsigned editorial

Posted on 03/28/2011 8:14:33 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham

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The justification for sales and use tax is the benefit that retail stores receive from state infrastructure. Internet-based businesses receive no such benefit, and rightly follow the mail-order precedent that local sales taxes are irrelevant.

Go suck the life from some other business.


21 posted on 03/28/2011 9:03:26 AM PDT by CzarChasm (My opinion. No charge.)
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I got a better idea, let's tax California newspapers at five bucks a copy at the printing, or the Internet hit (click fee).

We'd have all the easy money we need.

22 posted on 03/28/2011 9:04:17 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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I really must be from another planet as I thought the sales tax must be paid by the one making the sale, that's why the tax is a separate item on your receipt - so the merchant can collect it, but not pay a tax on the money himself.

Sooooo..... if California, or any state, wants to collect this tax, charge the seller for what is sold in said state. Too problematic, you say? Too bad. I have no sympathy for the tax collector.

Anyway, even if the tax is supposed to be on the one doing the buying (which I disagree with), maybe it should be changed and make the seller responsible. After all, he's the one earning something. I think tax should be on the profit earned.

23 posted on 03/28/2011 9:05:32 AM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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I think it’s long past time that the newspapers in California paid their fair share of taxes. What’s the matter, don’t you guys want to support the welfare state?

Cough it up!


24 posted on 03/28/2011 9:29:40 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

No illegal immigrant living in California, working for cash, living in government subsidized housing, eating government subsidized food and receiving other government entitlements should be required to pay online sales taxes when spending their hard-earned cash online. Only legal citizens should be required to bear the full brunt of the cost of running that government./sarc


25 posted on 03/28/2011 9:36:45 AM PDT by cajuncow
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To: Rennes Templar
If all unreported income was taxed and collected, we’d probably balance the budget.

did you forget the sarc tag?? you can't be that naive. The parasite class (i.e. government workers) live to destroy this Republic. Government at all levels is out of control and seeks to rule over us. No government will ever "have enough" money.

The only way this Republic will survive is for government at all levels need to reduced drastically in terms of size and authority.

EVERY single problem in this Republic has at it's root government. I applaud anyone who legally avoids taxes. I applaud Amazon for playing hardball with these parasite States that seek to suck more of our hard earned income and distribute it to those who have not earned it.

26 posted on 03/28/2011 9:40:28 AM PDT by sand88
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These guys are for real. I have been getting letter after letter stating that my business has been identified as one that has probably run afoul of their tax decree. I thought it was a bunch of BS but a week or so ago I got a letter from the Tax Police on one of my very occasional( one product every 2-3 years) suppliers that had submitted a copy of an invoice from last year of less then $100. The TP demanded that I acknowledge my debt and pay it immediately. I admire their tenacity if that is what they will do to get $8.50 in taxes paid


27 posted on 03/28/2011 9:50:05 AM PDT by Cyman
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llinois calls it a use tax, and it's a new line on the form and il. has made it prominemt.

"Use tax on internet, mail order, or other out-of-state purchases from UT Worksheet or UT Table in the instructions. Do not leave blank"

...... "If we find that you owe additional tax, we may assess the additional tax plus applicable penalties and interest. We conduct routine audits based on information received from third parties, including the U.S. Customs Service and other states."


There is no doubt in my mind that somewhere down the road, this will come back to haunt the residents of Illinois.... anybody with a computer or gets mail delivered or UPS or FEDEX, ...watch out.
28 posted on 03/28/2011 9:55:04 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I’ll play the devils advocate here. In some sense, if you don’t pay the tax, aren’t you really cheating?

When out-of-staters come to California and buy things retail, they really shouldn't have to pay sales tax, correct? It's based on where one lives, not where one buys things?

So where is the big effort by California to make sure these people get their tax refunded? Where is the "morality" in the state keeping revenue it doesn't deserve? It all evens out in the end.

Blood-sucking tyrants have always abused people's sense of fair play and "morality" to separate them from their money. When that doesn't work they send in men with guns and clubs.

29 posted on 03/28/2011 10:01:32 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: brownsfan
I don’t buy things online.

I recommend Amazon.com. You can literally find anything you want there. I never pay shipping, either.

30 posted on 03/28/2011 10:08:44 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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BTW, what steps have the Tax Police done to collect money from the most blatant tax cheats around? I am talking about drug dealers and prostitutes? I would love to see the EDD cruising the neighborhoods in a big van trying to collect from them babies.


31 posted on 03/28/2011 10:11:16 AM PDT by Cyman
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“I recommend Amazon.com. “

Thanks... I may be overly cautious or paranoid, take your pick. However, I don’t admit to anything “anonymously” that I wouldn’t admit to the IRS... if you get my drift.


32 posted on 03/28/2011 10:38:42 AM PDT by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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But IF I did, there’s no way I’d claim it. Ohio has a section where they ask you to declare online purchases, and pay sales tax on those items. Screw them. They get enough of my money. I’ll keep every penny I can.

You could keep all your money. You just have to lie on your income tax form, like you say you would if you bought things online. You could also find an employer who paid you under the table, and you could print up a fake tax-exempt letter to use when you shop so you could avoid all the sales tax.

All of these actions of course are illegal, and all have some risk of being caught.

Without knowing what your definition of "I can" is, it's hard to say what level you are really willing to go to. Did you must mean breaking laws where it is unlikely you will get caught?

33 posted on 03/28/2011 10:57:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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The issue can be easily resolved. Audit every California taxpayer and collect the sales tax for every out of state purchase. They have the authority to do this now, but of course it would result in a complete replacement of currently elected officials at the next election...which would be good.


34 posted on 03/28/2011 11:08:40 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Starve the beast!


35 posted on 03/28/2011 11:30:19 AM PDT by Defiant (Hillary's vision is for global socialism led by her. Obama's is for global socialism led by Islam.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

If I buy a Superman comic book in Kali-fornia (no,I don’t read comic books) and buy a pair of X-Ray glasses by mailing a money order to the X-Ray glasses company, if they aren’t located in Kali-fornia, do I have to pay their sales tax? If not, then I should not have to pay sales tax on out-of-state internet purchases.


36 posted on 03/28/2011 11:51:57 AM PDT by theymakemesick ( islam - inspired by Satan www.prophetofdoom.net)
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I do and you just did!


37 posted on 03/28/2011 12:02:58 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Welcome to the USA - where every day is Backwards Day!)
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To: Rennes Templar
No, because they pols would just spend more.
38 posted on 03/28/2011 12:04:50 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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If I buy a Superman comic book in Kali-fornia (no,I don’t read comic books) and buy a pair of X-Ray glasses by mailing a money order to the X-Ray glasses company, if they aren’t located in Kali-fornia, do I have to pay their sales tax? If not, then I should not have to pay sales tax on out-of-state internet purchases.

I agree with you 100 percent. To think otherwise is to assume that the state of California has complete legal jurisdiction over all other legal jurisdictions in the United States as well as complete state control over its citizens no matter where they go.

39 posted on 03/28/2011 12:11:00 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Great question!
Let me play your game “D.A.”. Do you ever drive faster than the posted speed limit? Do you close the cover on a pack of matches before striking match?
Smiles to you!


40 posted on 03/28/2011 12:11:36 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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