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Soviet Union Lied About 1961 Yuri Gagarin Space Mission [ and UFO FILES, Russian Roswell 1961 ]
Telegraph ^ | 4:37PM BST 30 Mar 2011 | Andrew Osborn in Moscow

Posted on 03/30/2011 3:04:52 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

Soviet officials lied about the success of Yuri Gagarin's historic 1961 flight into space and covered up the fact that he had landed more than 200 miles away from where they were expecting him, a new book discloses.

The Soviet Union held up his mission, the first manned flight into space, as a major Cold War propaganda coup, portraying it as a glitch-free triumph of Communist ideology.

However, a new book published on the eve of the fiftieth anniversary of Gagarin's famous flight has revealed that scientists twice miscalculated where he would land which is why there was nobody there to meet him when he finally touched down some 500 miles south of Moscow.

"For many years Soviet literature claimed that Yuri Gagarin and his Vostok landing capsule had come down in the area it was supposed to," according to the book, titled 108 Minutes That Changed the World.

"(But) this information was far from the truth," it added, saying Soviet space planners had been expecting him to land almost 250 miles further to the south. "So it turned out that nobody was waiting or looking for Yuri Gagarin. Therefore the first thing he had to do after landing was set off to look for people and communications so he could tell the leadership where he was."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: antonpervushin; blackhelicopters; iwasabductedbyaliens; loonietoons; nasa; roswellrussia; spacerace; tinfoilhat; ussr; vostok; yurigagarin
I searched to find what the topography was like"500 miles south of Moscow"

..and found:

Russian Roswell.
In the UFO Files
The History Channel,
Sunday 5th March, 2006

"Russia has a long history of UFO sightings.

SNIP: "Kapustin Yar was created as the site for the development of the Soviet Union’s space program after the end of World War II which is 500 miles south of Moscow and about 60 miles east of Volgograd, the former Stalingrad."

"Kapustin Yar was the former Soviet Union’s most sensitive air base, even exceeding America’s Area 51 for the levels of secrecy that shrouded it."

"UFO Files claimed that it was to present never-before-seen footage of the base, reconnaissance photos and even a virtual tour of its hidden depths."

However upon reading further:

The report told of how "one of Russia’s most well-known 'ufologists' Vladimir Azhazha (sometimes spelled Ajaja)took the researchers on a tour of a site close to Kapustin Yar where he claimed a UFO had crashed. Dowsing with copper rods, he found an elliptical area where he claimed that an alien craft had plummeted to Earth in 1961. He said that animals avoided the area, no cattle will graze there and strange energies affect your pulse rate and breathing."

A local resident, Zoya Shubenkina, corroborated Azhazha’s story about the 1961 crash, claiming she had witnessed it for herself. She said a big, fiery, red sphere flew over her house and crashed in the valley by the river."

Coincidence??? Really? 1961? Location? UFO?
or Yuri in his Vostok landing capsule???

"The 2006 Russian Roswell report then asks: Was Moscow’s leap into space aided by reverse-engineering alien craft?

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1 posted on 03/30/2011 3:05:04 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
I had heard this before. What I want to know is whether the rumors are true that Yuri Gagarin was not the first cosmonaut, but just the first one who survived the mission.
2 posted on 03/30/2011 3:13:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: KevinDavis; SunkenCiv

If true.... Then WOW!


3 posted on 03/30/2011 3:21:44 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KarlInOhio

I do recall reading accounts of an orbiting Russian craft that could not return to earth. Supposedly sources in other countries could, for a few days, hear the astronauts radio for help. Then the voices of the astronauts and the signal itself, grew weaker and stopped. This would fit Russia’s history but I shudder to think it may be true. A friend who was a physicist said that the much bragged about ‘first woman in space’, also a Russian, has rather complete virtigo and must be helped to sit upright or stand because her ear drums burst upon ‘landing’...But the Russians never admitted to that publicly. And let’s just talk about the Russian decision to bounce a capsule off of land instead of waves,shall we...?


4 posted on 03/30/2011 3:22:43 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: KarlInOhio

AS I recall, his flight doesn’t even meet the criteria for a true space flight and return to earth. Mainly because he didn’t make a landing with the ship, he ejected from the craft before it landed. The Soviets hid that fact for years.


5 posted on 03/30/2011 3:30:37 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: ransomnote
But don't you think it stange that: 'ufologists' Vladimir Azhazha (sometimes spelled Ajaja)took the researchers of Russian Roswell on a tour of a site close to Kapustin Yar where he claimed a UFO had crashed..? same place same year -would fit. So the Soviets lied by leading people to believe it was a UFO..as they were not there to greet Ari, scientifically embarrassing as well.

Did Ari wander off and go knock knock knocking on someone's door??

Эй я посадил как насчет прибытие, чтобы подобрать меня!!

[Borrows the phone: Hey I landed, how about sending someone to pick me up]

6 posted on 03/30/2011 3:36:09 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

“Dowsing with copper rods...”

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/okay.wav


7 posted on 03/30/2011 3:39:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: fight_truth_decay

There is so much deception in Soviet history, used to protect Soviet pride, that claiming a UFO landing to cover scientific embarrassment seems likely. As another poster said, the Soviets are rumored to have astronauts dying in their attempts to win the space race so why wouldn’t the Soviets tell ‘peasants’ (anyone who wasn’t in Moscow, basically) that it was UFO’s? If not UFO’s then some other lie to cover those circumstances and/or everyone talking about the lie disappears forever or learns to stop talking.
I also think, in addition to UFO’s, that this page describing cosmonaut deaths probably holds some truth too. Here’s the link and I’ll put a summary below:
http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/1302/lost_in_space.html
A LIST OF THE SUSPECTED LOST COSMONAUTS THE BROTHERS CLAIM TO HAVE RECORDED
May 1960 Unnamed cosmonaut lost when his orbiting space capsule veered off course.
November 1960 The brothers picked up an SOS message in Morse code from a troubled spacecraft.
February 1961 Recorded the suffocation of a cosmonaut.
April 1961 Just prior to Yuri Gagarin’s flight, a capsule circled the Earth three times before re-entering the Earth’s atmosphere.
May 1961 Weak calls for help from an orbiting capsule.
October 1961 A Soviet spacecraft veered off course and vanished into deep space.
November 1962 A space capsule bounced off the Earth’s atmosphere during re-entry and disappeared.
November 1963 Unnamed female cosmonaut perished on re-entry.
April 1964 Cosmonaut lost when capsule burnt up on re-entry.


8 posted on 03/30/2011 3:52:17 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Boogieman; gigster; Jack Black; Tainan; kabumpo; piytar; vanilla swirl
Communist Conspiracy Ping!

If you want on or off this ping list, please FReepmail me.

9 posted on 03/30/2011 4:25:14 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: ransomnote
U.S. intercepted final words of doomed Russian cosmonaut Komarov as he 'screamed in rage at people who put him in defective craft'
10 posted on 03/30/2011 4:36:11 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: fight_truth_decay; ransomnote
Space Hackers - The Judica Brothers, a documentary on YouTube.
11 posted on 03/30/2011 5:04:25 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: KoRn; KevinDavis

I don’t think this is big news to anyone. Gagarin landed out in the boonies and relied on his survival training until he was located and brought back to his hero’s parade.

Here’s an old link from an old file on the drive, and it’s still working:

http://www.myhero.com/hero.asp?hero=ilyushin

I also mailed you something.


12 posted on 03/30/2011 7:27:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Boogieman

Well done, Boogieman. I look forward to more CC Pings.


13 posted on 03/30/2011 7:31:27 PM PDT by gigster
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To: fight_truth_decay

Heck, that’s no different from the moon landing that we faked on a Burbank sound stage!


14 posted on 03/30/2011 7:33:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for all the info!

This is actually the first time I’ve ever heard of it. It was a bit surprising when I initially saw it, but not so much when I thought about it a little. They did all of their early missions in secrecy. Anything could have happened, and all we had to go on is what they told the world.

(I’ll read the entirety of the PM you sent when I get a month or two off work. lol /jk)


15 posted on 03/30/2011 11:17:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: concentric circles

Wow thanks for the link - I really enjoyed watching that.


16 posted on 03/30/2011 11:54:01 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Vince Ferrer

Amazing - I never heard about this before. Thanks for the link.


17 posted on 03/30/2011 11:55:12 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Boogieman

Please add me to the list. THANKS!


18 posted on 03/31/2011 12:02:42 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Boogieman

great graphic!


19 posted on 03/31/2011 12:15:45 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda

“great graphic!”

I lifted it from Google image search. I was going to try to make something myself, but I don’t have photoshop on my new computer and got frustrated with the online image editors.


20 posted on 03/31/2011 7:07:10 AM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Revolting cat!

“Heck, that’s no different from the moon landing that we faked on a Burbank sound stage!”

This actually reminds me of something this story made me wonder. If it would be so easy to fake a moon landing, like some assert, then why didn’t the Russians do it before us? They didn’t seem to have a problem deceiving the world in regards to other aspects of their space program.


21 posted on 03/31/2011 7:09:28 AM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Boogieman

22 posted on 04/01/2011 12:27:39 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda
Nice!

Lots of connections between the followers of both symbols:

The Real Terror Paymasters

23 posted on 04/01/2011 8:44:35 AM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: SunkenCiv

The Russians have had a couple other landings hundreds of miles away from the planned landing spot. One was in 2008.

http://www.space.com/5262-space-station-astronauts-land-target-safely.html

The real scandal about Gagarin’s landing is that, apparently, he had to parachute out of the capsule by design. This would have disqualified him from some of the international flight awards and records because they require successful take off and landing IN the craft.


24 posted on 04/01/2011 8:59:01 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: KoRn

:’)


25 posted on 04/01/2011 3:41:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: MediaMole

Thanks MM.


26 posted on 04/01/2011 3:45:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: MediaMole
The Russians have had a couple other landings hundreds of miles away from the planned landing spot. One was in 2008.

And we're scrapping the US space shuttle program so our astronauts can hitch a ride on Russian spacecraft?

27 posted on 04/01/2011 3:56:04 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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