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Senate report to reveal mortgage crisis details: WSJ
Yahoo ^ | 4/3/11 | AFP

Posted on 04/03/2011 12:17:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AFP) – The Senate will soon issue findings of a probe of the US mortgage meltdown that fueled the global financial crisis, with Goldman Sachs likely to face fresh embarrassment over its role, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday.

The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, whose high-profile inquiry commission subpoenaed Goldman's and other executives last year, is due to release its report on the subprime implosion of 2007 and 2008.

The paper, citing people familiar with the matter, said the report was expected to release emails from securities firms that developed or sold subprime mortgages and financial vehicles including collaterized debt obligations (CDO).

CDOs were used to help Wall Street firms bet against the housing market. When the housing bubble burst, several of the top CDOs were downgraded to "junk" status, and their values plunged.

Goldman, the Journal reported, created CDOs in 2006 and 2007 to shield its exposure to the US housing market, and has been accused of making large bets against the market while selling bullish positions to group that were not expecting the market to fall.

People familiar with the matter said Goldman and Deutsche Bank -- both of which have been criticized for misleading investors in the housing market -- were expected to draw particular scrutiny in the report, the Journal said.

In January, Goldman said it was renewing its commitment to the "primacy" of client interests, and laid out 39 recommendations stressing greater transparency in how the company does business, especially with regard to its own private trading and potential conflicts of interest.

The Journal said the Senate investigation's findings would likely expose bad blood between Goldman and Morgan Stanley, another Wall Street giant, over their roles in a deal involving a CDO called Hudson Mezzanine Funding 2006-1.

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To: Anti-Bubba182
Goldman thought

Goldman thought oil was going to hit $200 in 2008. So what?

and bet the mortgages would default

Again, so what?

while continuing to sell “bullish positions” to their clients the knew would likely crater.

Those 2 words don't go together.

As the market crashes they make money because of the short position.

Goldman lost money on ABACUS.

You're making this more complicated than it has to be.

The Cubs are playing Arizona tomorrow. If you make a bet with Goldman that the Cubs will win, are you going to be shocked that Goldman is "short" the Cubs? That Goldman hopes the Diamondbacks win?

Darn Goldman for creating that synthetic security and shorting the Cubs while allowing you to buy the Cubs.

81 posted on 04/03/2011 7:02:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
This is the derivative market and Goldman Sachs is screwing their clients for their profit. It is easier because of less regulation but it is wrong. It is different than betting on a ball game because they actually affect the game.

I believe they will escape serious punishment as I said in 28, but they shouldn't.

Goldman Targeted by Investor Complaints of Naked Short-Selling

82 posted on 04/03/2011 7:23:56 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: AndyJackson

It’s eye opening, that is for sure. I do appreciate the link! Thanks very much!


83 posted on 04/03/2011 7:29:17 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("It's hard to take the president seriously." - Jim DeMint)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Have you ever bought exchange traded options? Calls or puts?

It is different than betting on a ball game because they actually affect the game.

How do you imagine they effected this game?

84 posted on 04/03/2011 7:49:15 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’ve been looking at some of your prior posts. You seem to like to hang out on financial threads. What do you do?


85 posted on 04/03/2011 7:58:52 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Mostly correct Freepers who get their understanding of finance and markets from reporters who failed algebra and never took accounting.
86 posted on 04/03/2011 8:13:54 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Cute.
87 posted on 04/03/2011 8:21:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NormsRevenge

People need to go to jail over this. Hell, Goldman is part of the government now.


88 posted on 04/03/2011 9:28:25 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (We live two lives, the life we learn and the life we live with after that.)
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To: headstamp 2
"People need to go to jail over this."

Yes they do, but they won't.

89 posted on 04/03/2011 10:46:22 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Siena Dreaming

Merrill Lynch was neck deep in CDO’s. The reason they were forced to be bought out by BOA by the government was that they were playing with their own money in those investments and lost billions.


90 posted on 04/04/2011 1:33:37 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: NormsRevenge
The Senate will soon issue findings of a probe of the US mortgage meltdown that fueled the global financial crisis

Big hint guys... we already know.

91 posted on 04/04/2011 4:48:40 AM PDT by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Anything about the CRA?

I was a loan officer for a community bank for 25 yrs. and was amazed that we were FORCED to lend to people who didn't qualify or we would be written up. The unqualified, of course, were minorities. I left the business in 2007 and retired.

Of course, we had our CRA officer ( at a salary of six figures)making sure that we lent to the masses.......what a complete fraud. Have never felt so good as when I retired. It always galls me when the banks get blamed for the meltdown. CRA was the catylst not the banks.

92 posted on 04/04/2011 5:05:40 AM PDT by estrogen (2012 can't come soon enough)
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To: kittymyrib

“This entire federal government should be disbanded and all authority except the Defense Dept. should be delegated to the states.”

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! :)


93 posted on 04/04/2011 5:29:48 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: estrogen

Exactly. You can talk about Goldman all day long, but they were just doing what businesses are going to do ...the fact that we had a government meddling like we did, combined w/ zillions of illegals who were buying up the homes and you got what you got. Can’t pin it on any one entitity.


94 posted on 04/04/2011 5:37:52 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: WesternOne
Gov. Palin is the only leader who has the experience in tackling and exposing corrupt politicians.

Has governor Palin done anything to refute her support of Amnesty during the 2008 campaign?
95 posted on 04/04/2011 5:54:22 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: r9etb

You know I’m in the Program!!!


96 posted on 04/04/2011 6:38:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I predict that the bribes received by Chris Dodd will not be mentioned in the report


97 posted on 04/04/2011 6:40:48 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Lazamataz

... I meant it in jest, and I suspect you saw it the same way ... but I apologize anyway.


98 posted on 04/04/2011 7:56:49 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I agree. Goldman may be guilty of a lot of things but having won a bet is not one of them. They could have been wrong on the market and been buying the securities from their clients and the media would be excoriating them for reckless speculation.


99 posted on 04/04/2011 7:57:00 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: NormsRevenge
One line report. One page report. Will simply say that the entire thing was:

George W. Bush's fault!

End of report.

100 posted on 04/04/2011 9:05:51 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Read: Ecclesiastes 10:2. You will be amazed!)
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