[Publius6961]

had the Poitiers battle gone the other way, Oxford, which dates to 1167, might have been founded years earlier — by, say, disciples of the great Muslim scholar Avicenna, who died in 1037.)

Oh that went well, all that stolen knowledge with which the muslims couldn't do a thing. No innovation, no original scientific advanceent of any kind.

Check out the following list of muslim recipients (while living in an Islamic State) of the Nobel Prizes in Math, Science, Medicine...

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Refute that Achmed!

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

**** — by, say, disciples of the great Muslim scholar Avicenna, who died in 1037.)****

I doubt it because not long after Avicenna’s death there rolled out of the Sudan Yusuf Ben Texum with a call to return to the fundamentals of Mohammedism, namely JIHAD!
His armies overthrew the moslem kiingdoms of North Africa and penetrated into Spain where they were stopped by EL CID.

“When men speak of you they speak of poets and scientists!
MAKE WARRIORS of your Poets!
Have your scientists make new poisons for our arrows!”-Opening lines from EL CID