Posted on 04/08/2011 1:19:04 AM PDT by Rummyfan
HH: Joining us to discuss this, our very own election judge, Mark Steyn of www.steynonline.com. Mark, what do you make of this story?
MS: Yeah, I must say, my heart sank yesterday when it looked as if the Democrats you said, you wrote a book a couple of years ago, Hugh, called If Its Not Close, They Cant Cheat.
HH: You bet.
MS: And we somehow accepted the principle that an awful lot of important elections in the United States fall within what the Democrats regard as the margin of lawyer, that its 200 votes here and there. By the time you take it to a friendly judge, you can get your guy in, regardless of whether the other fellow actually won or lost. And the idea of them doing that with Congressmen and with Senators is one thing. But the idea of them doing it with actual judges, I think, marks a new low in American life. So I hope that Prosser does pull it out and survive. But I must say its very depressing to me that this result is as close as it is in Wisconsin, because it indicates the basic problem here that half the American people still dont realize that this countrys broke, and that youve got a choice between either braking before we reach the cliff edge, or putting your foot down with the Democrats and sailing over there into the abyss.
HH: Now Mark, I had a different take on it only because its Wisconsin. So I said half of Wisconsin doesnt get it, but I think of Wisconsin as almost New York and California-like in its other worldliness on matters fiscal until this most recent election. So if the unions throw everything theyve got, and the best they could get was a tie, in essence, and now maybe theyve lost it, doesnt that tell us that they just havent got anything left in the pipe?
MS: No, I think theyre running on fumes in that sense, and I think the momentum is with our side. Thats true. And in a 50/50 nation, I think its moving. Its 51/49. And then its going to be 53/47. But it ought to be moving a hell of a lot faster, because otherwise, this story ends nowhere good. And thats why I take the point that Wisconsin is very much like, in that respect, like California or New York. But an awful lot of states are like California or New York. And those of us in the few states that arent, like mine in New Hampshire, are awful worried that were going to be picking up the tab for the mistakes that you guys have made.
HH: Thats almost a certainty. Now Mark Steyn, in terms of local governments in New Hampshire, weve got one out in California, Costa Mesa, where theyve had to give layoff notices of 200. Theyll probably have to fire a hundred people, a worker jumped to his death, all the unions have arrived. Its a major national story. But they cant away from the math. The math is that Costa Mesa is just flat broke.
MS: Right.
HH: Has that happened in New Hampshire yet?
MS: No, because on the whole, we have small town level volunteer government. My town has an unpaid school board, and our results are better than yours in California. So maybe actually having unpaid citizen school boards is better than having a professional cadre of social engineers. I dont think government actually is expensive. A neighbor of mine, whos a selectman, thats the equivalent of the sort of town council in somewhere like California, actually produced a very interesting example of the difference between actually doing things yourselves, and sluicing them through state and federal government. There were two bridges that were condemned. One of them got on the Obama stimulus program, and the bridge still hasnt been rebuilt, the temporary bridge is worn out. The bill is in, its up several hundred thousand dollars. The other bridge, they decided to do it themselves, and replaced it for $20,000 dollars. Its a perfectly fine bridge, up to code and everything. Do it yourself. Thats what when Tocqueville was traveling around Jacksonian America, thats what he discovered, that Americans when they had a problem got up and did it themselves. This idea of sluicing it through big government programs is at odds with everything Tocqueville admired about this country.
HH: Yeah, raise the barn yourself. Lets turn to Washington, D.C. The President gave this outrageous statement today. Does anyone get fooled by this false crisis atmosphere, Mark Steyn?
MS: No, because this crisis is of the Democrats making. And we are arguing about a budget that should have happened when the Democrats controlled the White House, the House and the Senate, when they had everything, when Obama was strutting around saying I won, you losers get over it, youre not part of the conversation. This budget dates from that period. And its interesting to me that we are now fighting three wars, and this guy cant even, doesnt even want to sign a bill permitting funding for the military to continue. Now this is actually what the issue is about. The Democrats want the issue to be Republicans are against government, Democrats are for government. The Republicans want to make the conversation no, there are things that the government should be doing, like defending the nation, and there are things that it should not be doing. And we should be the side of the debate that is able to distinguish between them. Harry Reid wants you to pretend that funding the U.S. Marines and the Cowboy Poetry Festival in Elko, Nevada, are all part of the same issue. Theyre not. Theyre separate questions.
HH: I want to turn abroad. Theres a story in the New Yorker this week by Dexter Filkins, who is an amazing correspondent, on Yemen. And I put it down and I finished it, and I said my gosh, the gathering storm is back upon us. I wonder if in the middle 30s, no one noticed that Europe was on fire. Mark Steyn, it really is, the Middle East is on fire, and the bad guys are winning everywhere, and instability is breaking out everywhere, and were arguing about cutting off military pay. It makes no sense.
MS: Well, I think, I look at this slightly differently in that I think theres a big hole in our strategic thinking on this issue. I mean, if you look at the smilie face Sesame Street coverage of the so-called Arab spring, everything that the downbeat guys like me were saying in February, that the mainstream boys are now conceding, that in fact the Muslim Brotherhood are the only force capable of organizing nationwide in Egypt, and the army is now doing deals with them. And all the Facebook revolution types have been cut out of the story.
HH: Yup.
MS: What I find worrying is, for example, if you look at General Petraeus statement on the Koran burning, thats what it was about. It wasnt about the savages who slaughtered Norwegian female aide workers and Nepalese guards in response to the Koran burning. It was General Petraeus apologizing for any disrespect shown to the Koran. He doesnt speak for me. He doesnt speak for me. I think the big problem here is that America has a technically advanced military, and absolutely no strategic clarity over what its doing in Afghanistan, or in the Muslim world more broadly. And without some kind of strategic clarity, all the technological superiority and highly trained warriors will in the end avail you not, because in a sense, youre not fighting with any purpose. And thats what Petraeus statement, I think, betrayed a couple of days ago.
HH: Theres zero strategic clarity on Yemen, and Ill recommend that to the audience. But let me go back to the statement that followed the Petraeus statement, the one by Lindsey Graham, in which he basically said the United States Congress can decide who says what and when in the United States. It should have been condemned instantly by every editorial writer in the United States, because that amount of rope hangs everybody in the same tree.
MS: Right.
HH: I didnt see it condemned, Mark Steyn. Did I miss it?
MS: No, you didnt, and it didnt surprise me, because I learned this in my battles up in Canada, and in similar fights in Britain and Australia and Europe, that the liberal media, who congratulate themselves on their courage non-stop, who hand themselves awards for their courage, who talk about their bravery far more than soldiers or firemen do, that when it comes to it, they will not be there for you on the free speech issue. So almost all the newspapers found it easier to beat up on the no-name pastor than actually say wait a minute, is Lindsey Graham out of his mind? A United States Senator presuming that the national government regulates the bounds of public discourse in this republic? I think Lindsey Graham is unfit for office. And its pathetic that it needs some rinky-dink, no account foreigner like me to say that, rather than the editor of the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times and CNN and all the rest of it.
HH: And it went unchallenged on television. They didnt instantly say how can you say that, what about the 1st Amendment.
MS: Right, right. And thats what, by the way, this is why I dont want elites setting the rules, because when you look at your elites, theyre not the kind of wise men that they pass themselves off as. Theyre boobs, which is what Lindsey Graham is. Im embarrassed by him.
HH: Let me ask if youre embarrassed by Eric Holder, because the decision on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ought to embarrass anyone whos been standing on the other side of it for two-plus years.
MS: Right, and I think, I put Eric Holder in worse than the Lindsey Graham camp, because he and Obama played politics with this. Everyone understood. You know, Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld dont have Gitmo because they enjoy clamping electrodes to miscellaneous foreigners as their hobby. They do it because when youre fighting a war against unarmed combatants who do not observe the Geneva Conventions, your options in terms of what you can do are very limited. It has not taken Obama and Holder two and a half years to work themselves back to the position they demagogued and demonized for the last eight years. And the pansy left out there in America, the pansy left is sticking with Obama who betrayed them, because theyve got nowhere else to go.
HH: Mark Steyn, thanks.
>>MS: No, because this crisis is of the Democrats making. And we are arguing about a budget that should have happened when the Democrats controlled the White House, the House and the Senate, when they had everything, when Obama was strutting around saying I won, you losers get over it, youre not part of the conversation. This budget dates from that period. <<
Last night on BOR, Charlie “Tax Cheat” Rangel explained the budget problem: “We never got around to it (passing a budget)” Absolutely F’n amazing. The one job that they are sent to Versailles on the Potomac and they can’t “get around to it”?
There is a day of reckoning coming.
The Democrats have stealing close elections down to a science. That’s why ALL of them were so confident the past few days when Kloppenheimer was ahead by 200 votes and was already declaring victory.
They KNOW that a 200 vote lead will only increase as time wears on after the election and Democrat shenanigans kick into high gear. Except this time they didn’t anticipate the totals for an entire town had not yet been reported.
rinky-dink, no account foreigner Bump.
Steyn rocks BTTT
Ping for later.
The DIMs know we are coming for them (electorally, of course). We ARE coming for them all the way down the ticket to dog-catcher.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Can I get an AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
The didn't simply not "get around to it", they intentionally punted because if they put into a budget what they wanted to do, the GOP would have used that as ammo to beat them even worse in November than they did, and if they proposed a budget that gave in at all to the demands of the majority public, their base would desert them.
It was lose-lose for them, so not doing anything was the best damage control option they had. Pathetic, isn't it?
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