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An Open Letter to Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh
Dean C. Haskins | 04/08/2011 | Dean C. Haskins

Posted on 04/08/2011 12:28:02 PM PDT by Music Producer

An Open Letter to Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh

Dear Mr. Trump and Mr. Limbaugh: I am addressing you both because I believe the two of you are most integral to getting this controversy properly resolved; and, yes, Rush, I concur with the caller who reminded you of your shirking this issue when it really mattered most. I was the chairman of a now-defunct national organization that existed in 2008-09 that attempted to bring this fraud to the forefront (yes, we were the original “birthers”). We had members across the country send emails, certified letters, and make telephone calls—first, to the electoral college members, then to the members of Congress, and ultimately to every sitting state governor. Additionally, we tirelessly tried to get the conservative media on board with us; but it seemed a veil of evil was keeping our efforts from reaching the synapses of the collective brain of those whom we normally trust to think logically and in defense of our country and its Constitution.

Before continuing, please allow me to offer a hearty “Bravo” to you, Mr. Trump, for finally shedding some well-deserved light on this constitutionally grave issue.

That being said, and with the understanding that you are both highly intelligent men, please allow me to proffer an opinion about how you could unquestioningly even the odds of the truth's prevailing. Obama is also a very intelligent man, and I believe he has orchestrated this SHELL GAME to his vast benefit. He continues to convince the doltish masses that the “pea” is his birth certificate, and has spent large sums to promulgate that deception. But, what happens if that possibly-fake pea is uncovered, and shows nothing nefarious about his place of birth? Since he controls whether or not that document is ever seen, he can continue the game ad infinitum—for he is master of the game's outcome. Moreover, by doing so, he misdirects the focus off the very thing that irrevocably ends the game.

I agree with you, Mr. Trump, that the birth certificate likely contains information Obama wants to keep hidden; however, if there's anything I have learned in life, it is that the term “likely” denotes lack of certainty. It is most unfortunate that Obama has been able to keep this issue in the arena of uncertainty, when there is another argument to be made that is a sure bet (and is precisely where this conman has been so crafty by keeping everyone asking about the birth certificate).

There are three constitutional qualifications to be president: to be at least 35 years of age, to have resided here for at least 14 years, and to be a natural born citizen. The Obama camp has wagered well that the majority of Americans simply do not know what the term “natural born citizen” means. There is actually a wealth of delineating information available, but to keep this communication succinct, historically, the definition is this: one who is born on our soil to two citizen parents. That definition can be found in Emmerich de Vattel's “Law of Nations,” which was the blueprint the framers used to craft our Constitution, and was the commonly understood definition at the time of framing. The fact that the term was used at all, along with the grandfather clause the framers used to eliminate that requirement for themselves, is enough for any logical thinker to understand their intent.

Barack Obama, Sr. was never a citizen of our country, which, at the time of Barack, Jr.'s birth, made him forever ineligible to hold the office of president (apart from a constitutional amendment changing the requirement). That half of the eligibility discussion is what Obama has been able to keep from public scrutiny with his masterful use of smoke and mirrors.

Yes, we DO need to see the birth certificate, but I believe we probably won't. And, what happens if we see it and it becomes a Geraldo Rivera/Al Capone fiasco? Who will look like a stooge then?

The issue, at this point, is not whether or not Obama is a U.S. Citizen, but that he is NOT a natural born citizen according to the historic definition of the term—because his father was not a U.S. Citizen when junior was born. Case settled and closed.

So, I humbly implore both of you to defend the Constitution of our great nation by revealing to the public at large that Obama may, or may not, fulfill the requirement for half of the natural born citizen mandate, but that he unequivocally does not fulfill the requirement for the other half, and therefore, is ineligible to hold the office of president.

Thank you for your time.

Dean Haskins

Forest, VA

P.S. I produced some YouTube videos for that organization I chaired that our elected officials and the conservative media ignored:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX7uuhHXs-0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APOA5WSUDmE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; donaldtrump; eligibility; limbaugh; naturalborncitizen; obama; thedonald; trump; trump2012
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1 posted on 04/08/2011 12:28:11 PM PDT by Music Producer
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To: Music Producer

I was so furious at rush yesterday over this I turned him off...didn’t turn him on today either.

Rush you are a coward.


2 posted on 04/08/2011 12:30:25 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Music Producer

Great post.

Concise and to the point extant.


3 posted on 04/08/2011 12:31:53 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Music Producer

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The facts re; BC fraud, not natural born citizen:

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=fake+birth+certificate&sa=Search#1115

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=natural+born+citizen&sa=Search#1115

How to reach Trump:

http://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump

http://twitter.com/#!/realDonaldTrump

http://shouldtrumprun.com/
http://shouldtrumprun.com/your-voices/
http://shouldtrumprun.com/contact-us/

Herman Cain

info@hermancain.com


4 posted on 04/08/2011 12:32:52 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Music Producer

And Rush, Hawaii has never authenticated Obama’s dubious Internet COLB. In fact, Hawaii has refused to comment about Obama’s computer generated COLB.


5 posted on 04/08/2011 12:34:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Music Producer

I totally agree. The real plum is hiding in plain sight for all to see.

If we can accept an illegitimate president now, we will always have lowered the bar.


6 posted on 04/08/2011 12:34:30 PM PDT by dforest
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To: mamelukesabre

I heard that caller yesterday, she was really mad at Rush. What the media should have done is now being done by Trump. What a sad day this is for our country. (meanwhile they are probably going through Bachmann’s trash as we speak....)


7 posted on 04/08/2011 12:34:42 PM PDT by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: mamelukesabre
I was so furious at rush yesterday over this I turned him off...didn’t turn him on today either.

That should teach him. When will Rush learn he needs to kowtow to EVERY listener's demands?

8 posted on 04/08/2011 12:35:21 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: mamelukesabre
Rush you are a coward.

That lady gave him holy hell and I totally agree. If he and the rest of the conservative talking heads would have been on this story 1/100 at much as we Freepers have been these THREE YEARS!, this skinny illegal alien would not be smoking in and dirtying up OUR White House with this incredible gaggle of communists and muslim lovers.

Sorry, Rush. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HER. You dropped the ball with this incredible machine you have of daily radio. No excuse!

9 posted on 04/08/2011 12:36:38 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Music Producer

Moreover, I believe investigationS should be done on ALL of Obama’s records he is (paying millions) to hide.

School
Medical
Citizenship in other countries
SS#
Name change
Etc.


10 posted on 04/08/2011 12:40:34 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: Music Producer
The issue, at this point, is not whether or not Obama is a U.S. Citizen, but that he is NOT a natural born citizen according to the historic definition of the term—because his father was not a U.S. Citizen when junior was born. Case settled and closed.

Precisely. Every one needs to keep their eye on the target but first of all, they have to know what the target is.

11 posted on 04/08/2011 12:41:44 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Music Producer

Maybe Trump is not under direct threat of an FCC shutdown.

Maybe the fed cannot touch Trump, because he is simply above their reach.

yeah... I think Rush has been and may still be under direct threat of license revocation if he pushes this too far.

Maybe Trump became aware of this fact directly from Rush on the golf course, and responded...

Hey Rush... Watch This!...


12 posted on 04/08/2011 12:41:44 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: upsdriver
Rush is still a coward, whether he kowtows or not.
13 posted on 04/08/2011 12:44:09 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: upsdriver

There is a certain truth in all of this for our side. It is hard to make a case for the Constitution when you ignore the most obvious and maybe the most serious breach of the Constitution to go unchallenged for any reason whatsoever.


14 posted on 04/08/2011 12:44:43 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Lucky9teen
I think all of those are an even bigger deal than the birth certificate...

How did he get from Hawaii to Occidental to Columbia? Nobody is even asking...
15 posted on 04/08/2011 12:47:05 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: indylindy
It is hard to make a case for the Constitution when you ignore the most obvious and maybe the most serious breach of the Constitution to go unchallenged for any reason whatsoever.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's hard to trust, or take seriously, bobble head yappers on the radio who claim to love the Constitution and our nation, yet, manage to IGNORE for almost 3 YEARS the most serious breach of the Constitution ever in the history of our nation!

16 posted on 04/08/2011 12:47:35 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Music Producer

There is more to this situation than most people imagine. (Keep in mind, lawyers are involved!)

To quote Factcheck.org: “As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.”

So, why would Obama feel that his birth status was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948 rather than by the 14th Amendment to the United States of America?

If Barry’s parents were indeed married in Hawaii, that marriage would not be recognized by Great Britain because it was invalid - Obama Sr. was already married with a wife and child living in Kenya. So, as per the British Nationality Act of 1948, any subsequent children born to this bigamist marriage would be considered illegitimate and NOT British subjects.

Just to be upfront, I believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii but born in Mombassa, Kenya, in 1961; my belief is based on the presence of a missionary woman, an American, who was there and helped Stanley Ann Dunham Obama return to the U.S. after Barry’s birth.


17 posted on 04/08/2011 12:48:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Music Producer

Thank you for a copy of this letter.

The group by Dean C. Haskins is probably one of hundreds of such groups that voiced eligibility concerns to the Congress.

Congress sat on its hands during the hours in 2009 when it had a Constitutional duty to act. Such failure to act may have been based on a sincere belief that Clinton offered a greater threat to national security.

But today such belief seems almost certainly without merit.

Now is the time for the Republican House to act.

The House owes that to America.


18 posted on 04/08/2011 12:49:04 PM PDT by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: Music Producer
But, what happens if that possibly-fake pea is uncovered, and shows nothing nefarious about his place of birth?
 
Well then the birthers STILL win. We will celebrate a moral victory in forcing Obama to tell the truth. 
 
... and to be a natural born citizen. The Obama camp has wagered well that the majority of Americans simply do not know what the term “natural born citizen” means.
 
And they have wagered well that the courts (including the Supreme Court) will rule in favor of Obammie dozens and dozens of times. 
 


19 posted on 04/08/2011 12:50:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A Birther: One who has questions or concerns over the birth of Barry Barack Hussein Soetero Obama)
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To: Safrguns

That explanation makes sense.


20 posted on 04/08/2011 12:51:19 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: Music Producer

BUMP


21 posted on 04/08/2011 12:51:45 PM PDT by Fawn (No--bama 2012)
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To: Music Producer; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...
Yeah? Well, does Trump have standing? Huh? Huh? Does he? Huh?
22 posted on 04/08/2011 12:52:17 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 806 of our national holiday from reality. - That 3 AM phone call? Voicemail...)
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To: Music Producer

“Obama is also a very intelligent man”....

**********

Stopped reading there.


23 posted on 04/08/2011 12:52:32 PM PDT by VeeP22
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To: Music Producer

Cheers to Donald Trump for focusing on this very important issue. It still stings that O was voted into the highest office of the land (one way or the other) with absolutely no valid qualfication! Unfortunately our courts have been so stacked so far to the left that attempts to have this case heard have fallen on deaf jucicial ears.
Mr. Trump also has clear vision on foreign and domestic afairs, accocrding to what he has said so far. I say Go Donald!


24 posted on 04/08/2011 12:53:04 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: upsdriver

utter fools utter foolishness


25 posted on 04/08/2011 12:53:32 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: wintertime

I will always think that John Roberts deliberatly botched the swearing in of Obama for the obvious reason.

I can think of maybe two reasons the GOP wants to give Obama a pass now and gave him a pass then.

Reason 1- they think they can win and avoid a crisis of being called racists and irritating some blacks. I have my doubts.

Reason 2- They have a person like maybe Rubio in mind down the road who may not meet the natural born citizen status. A person who is a NWO pick. Notice today Rubio was out telling Trump to drop it. Rubio is a Bush “heart”.


26 posted on 04/08/2011 12:56:09 PM PDT by dforest
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To: wintertime
Rush is still a coward, whether he kowtows or not.

Right, he isn't brave like FReepers posting online comments under fictitious names.

Rush was the very first out of the box to take on Obama and he came under assault from the left. People have short memories. I don't buy the coward talk crap.

27 posted on 04/08/2011 12:56:27 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Music Producer
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Married January 1936. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

28 posted on 04/08/2011 12:59:32 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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I think Rush is a coward.


29 posted on 04/08/2011 1:00:17 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Music Producer

Rush truly did not do his job in the last presidential election, he was much to busy playing games with Hitlary.


30 posted on 04/08/2011 1:01:48 PM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: indylindy
There is a certain truth in all of this for our side.

You're absolutely right! I want to see the whole truth come out and justice prevail. However, I don't demand someone else take up the issue. Rush has a radio show whose goal is to attract an audience and sell advertising. I wonder how active and involved those who criticize Rush are in exposing Obama? My guess, it mostly boils down to nitpicking and complaining on a daily basis.

31 posted on 04/08/2011 1:03:37 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Politics4US

I am not angry at Rush. He has tweaked this issue.

If you really want to get angry, be angry at the people in government who have allowed a person not eligible to destroy the country for almost 3 years.

They still lack the courage to expose or else they have been complicit in the fraud.


32 posted on 04/08/2011 1:05:30 PM PDT by dforest
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To: upsdriver; wintertime
"When will Rush learn he needs to kowtow to EVERY listener's demands?"

BS! No one has suggested that. You're disingenuous.

What Rush already knows and doesn't need to learn is that he needs to kowtow to reality's every truth.


33 posted on 04/08/2011 1:05:30 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Music Producer

Cheers to Donald Trump for focusing on this very important issue. It still stings that O was voted into the highest office of the land (one way or the other) with absolutely no valid qualfication! Unfortunately our courts have been so stacked so far to the left that attempts to have this case heard have fallen on deaf jucicial ears.
Mr. Trump also has clear vision on foreign and domestic afairs, accocrding to what he has said so far. I say Go Donald!


34 posted on 04/08/2011 1:06:33 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: upsdriver

See my post #32.


35 posted on 04/08/2011 1:06:44 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Music Producer
Absolutely 100% on target, and well stated!
36 posted on 04/08/2011 1:06:53 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Dustbunny

“Rush truly did not do his job in the last presidential election, he was much too busy plaing games with Hitlary”.

I agree Dustbunny. Think: Operation Chaos. I can’t even get Good Will to take my tee shirt. :-)


37 posted on 04/08/2011 1:09:09 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Kathy Nickolaus for President ,)
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To: Dustbunny
Rush truly did not do his job in the last presidential election, he was much to busy playing games with Hitlary.

What job is that? He's a radio talk show host commenting on the issues of the day from a conservative viewpoint. He isn't a leader of any movement. People make a mistake when they assign things to him that aren't real.

I listen to Rush because he informs and inspires me. Instead of expecting one man to do everything, how about if his millions of listeners do something.

38 posted on 04/08/2011 1:09:39 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Music Producer

“what happens if that possibly-fake pea is uncovered, and shows nothing nefarious about his place of birth?”

THAT is why nobody in the media on either side wanted to even be caught looking at the issue. The stakes are very high: you flub it, and you’re done - either politically or metabolically.


39 posted on 04/08/2011 1:10:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: VeeP22

How anybody could watch Barry in action over the last three years and imagine he’s intelligent is beyond me. What has he ever done to indicate above average smarts? All his school records are sealed; Ayers wrote Dreams, and AA plus the race card earned Barry all his ‘achievements’. Take him off teleprompter and he stumbles around like a verbal drunk. He has the kind of sly, underhanded cunning any reasonably successful con artist possesses, and that’s it. [I’m agreeing wholeheartedly with your assessment, btw, in case that isn’t clear.]


40 posted on 04/08/2011 1:11:28 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Music Producer

It must be almost sexually gratifying for the libs, when they see us taking shots at our own... such as Rush. The man is not a coward.


41 posted on 04/08/2011 1:11:49 PM PDT by Gator113 (I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Music Producer

bfl


42 posted on 04/08/2011 1:13:56 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: upsdriver

“He isn’t a leader of any movement.”

Including the conservative movement.


43 posted on 04/08/2011 1:18:09 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: indylindy
They have a person like maybe Rubio in mind down the road who may not meet the natural born citizen status

I researched Rubio after the previous Rubio thread today. He was born in Floriduh.

Both parents were Cuban. I found nothing indicating they naturalized. Unless Rubio can show they became US Citizens prior to his birth he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, and so is ineligible for the Presidency.

44 posted on 04/08/2011 1:18:12 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: null and void

“Yeah? Well, does Trump have standing? Huh? Huh? Does he? Huh? “

No! no one has standing. No one in the entire world.

Thus, a tuna fish could run for president. No one would have standing to challenge it.


45 posted on 04/08/2011 1:19:23 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Politics4US

“I think Rush is a coward.”

I don’t think he is generally a coward. I do think he dropped the ball on this one. In overtime, with seconds left, to win the championship, he dropped this ball. Unfortunately.


46 posted on 04/08/2011 1:20:55 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: upsdriver
Considering the slings and arrows Rush has dealt with over the years, it is ignorant and meaningless to call him a "coward." Rush has powerful enemies, and don't forget it. He has good reason to exercise prudence. We need Rush on the air a helluva lot more than we need a martyr.
47 posted on 04/08/2011 1:21:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Music Producer

World Net Daily and Dr. Jerome Corsi have been addressing this issue for years. Corsi and Joseph Farrah have tons of evidence proving the Golfer’s illegitimacy.
Difference now is that Trump is getting press because he is a high profile figure.
This may or may not affect his presidential bid, if he throws in his hat.
But whatever the case, and maybe he will have to become the sacrificial lamb here, he is to be commended for jumping into the fray and standing up for those of us who have known the truth that Bambi has been a fraud from day one.
He may not win the war but he has a chance of winning the battle. And that is a good thing. Kudos to the Donald.

And BTW, did any of you see the look of pure disdain on Meredith and Matt’s faces the other day, post Trump interview? Why don’t you “slobbering in love with O” lefty NBC commentators tell us how you really feel?


48 posted on 04/08/2011 1:21:45 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Kathy Nickolaus for President ,)
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To: mamelukesabre

I turned Limbaugh off when he couldn’t resist shipping all of our technology, expertise, training, and materials off to foreign manufacturers. Instead of proposing the creation of a ‘deal American industry couldn’t turn down’ right here at home, it was pander to the bottom line of American industrialism and just run for the border. The prosecution rests, your honor.


49 posted on 04/08/2011 1:21:49 PM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: upsdriver

“how about if his millions of listeners do something. “

oh sorry! We don’t have “standing!”


50 posted on 04/08/2011 1:22:10 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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