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1 posted on 04/08/2011 2:08:50 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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November 2012 is a year and a half away. This shutdown will be long forgotten by then.


2 posted on 04/08/2011 2:10:34 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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As long as Obama has the MSM as Cheerleaders, it won’t matter what Republicans do!
Shut this mother down!


3 posted on 04/08/2011 2:10:42 PM PDT by griswold3 (Character is destiny)
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DITTO!

STFU, Karl!


4 posted on 04/08/2011 2:10:53 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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Tokyo Rove strikes again. Get lost Karl!


5 posted on 04/08/2011 2:11:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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This is not like the Clinton years. Obama is not leading.

The country knows we are spending too much. And they are not for tax dollars being used for abortion.

So it’s going to come back as the Republicans being the strong leaders, not Obama.


6 posted on 04/08/2011 2:11:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Tokyo Rove. A man who knows the cost of everything political but the value of none.


7 posted on 04/08/2011 2:11:47 PM PDT by glorgau
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A lot depends on the republican PR machine


8 posted on 04/08/2011 2:11:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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That magnificent bastard is now a total jerk!


9 posted on 04/08/2011 2:11:59 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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And we know where following his advice got G.W. Bush.

Go away, Karl. You are not a conservative.


10 posted on 04/08/2011 2:12:11 PM PDT by Jemian
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Hey Karl, if you haven’t noticed, this ain’t 1995.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 2:12:11 PM PDT by cblue55 (Envisioning when all that is left is the right.)
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The truth is always the opposite of what Tokyo Rove says.

He so desperately wants to be relevant.

14 posted on 04/08/2011 2:13:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("...crush the bourgeoisie... between the millstones of taxation and inflation." --Vladimir Lenin)
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Rove...Go Away!


15 posted on 04/08/2011 2:13:16 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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According to David Limbaugh:

Let me tell you — in a nutshell — why I believe Republicans must not succumb to their fear and compromise on the $61 billion and why my conservative colleagues should not be squeamish about this path.

—It’s not clear that Republicans lost the PR war over the budget battles of the ‘90s — a point Michael Barone made in a recent column.

—Besides, today is radically different from 1995-96, especially in terms of the catastrophic financial crisis that hangs over this country as the flames of hellfire hung over readers of Jonathan Edwards’ “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.” Even the co-chairmen of the bipartisan budget commission acknowledge this.

—Voters understand that we are in a crisis, and they cast their votes accordingly — resoundingly — in the November congressional elections.

—A government shutdown wouldn’t be pleasant, but it would not be the end of the world. Essential services would remain in operation. On the other hand, our failing to get the financial crisis solved would be the end of the prosperous and free America we love.

—If a shutdown occurs, it will not be the Republicans’ fault, and we don’t have to accept a narrative to the contrary. For the first time since 1974, Democrats, despite their control of Congress, did not pass a budget last year, and it is their failure that has led to all the wrangling over these continuing resolutions. Moreover, the Democrats have not acted in good faith toward our national debt crisis, particularly respecting the trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities with our entitlements programs.

—The liberal media have lost both credibility and clout since the ‘90s, while the alternative media have gained in both. Also, an information explosion has occurred, making facts instantly available — universally. Facts are on the Republicans’ side.

—Obama and the Democrats have lost immeasurable popularity and credibility in the past few years, especially concerning the nation’s financial health and the economy.

—Obama has been exposed for presenting recklessly erroneous information on his 10-year budget proposal (understated by $2.3 trillion) and Obamacare (understated by hundreds of billions of dollars). He has been AWOL on these budget negotiations and presented no plan for entitlement reform.

—Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., was caught saying that the Democrats’ strategy was not to compromise with Republicans, but to torpedo them. Reports also surfaced that other Democratic leaders are strategizing for a shutdown because they have no authentic plan and have no ammunition against Republicans apart from demonizing them.

—Polls have shown that most people would prefer a government shutdown to Congress’ failing to resolve the budget crisis. Separate polls have shown that even independents would favor a shutdown.

—What moderate conservatives fail to understand is that there is little downside to Republicans sticking to their guns but an enormous downside to their caving. The media will vilify Republicans as uncompassionate, whether or not there’s a shutdown; just wait for the debate over Ryan’s budget. But if Republicans breach their promise to make these cuts, there will be hell to pay with the base.

You don’t defeat the Democrats by picking your battles; you fight them at every turn — thereby gaining political capital, not using it up.


16 posted on 04/08/2011 2:13:44 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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PHOOEY, ROVE! Bush started this spending spree under your advisement! It is time for Boehner to stand firm on the proposed budget. Go ahead and shut it down! The only obstacle to the proposed budget is Obama! Why you are featured so often on FOX is beyond me!


17 posted on 04/08/2011 2:13:52 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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Rove is right. That is why there will be a shut down. The rats figure its a net positive for them.


18 posted on 04/08/2011 2:15:33 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Rove:

1. Shutdown could help Obama.
2. Birth Certificate issue will help Obama.

Who needs this guys advice? We can get the same thing from Chuck Schumer or DailyKos or MoveOn.org.


19 posted on 04/08/2011 2:15:33 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Whatever Tokyo Rove advises, do the opposite.


20 posted on 04/08/2011 2:15:50 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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What’s next Rove?.... another stained dress???

Will that help him too?


21 posted on 04/08/2011 2:16:04 PM PDT by Safrguns
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>> perceptions of him as a strong leader

The difference is that Clinton was a leader. The man-child in the White House runs away from work and responsibility. He’d rather watch hoops than govern and he doesn’t even know the meaning of leadership.

Rove needs to be hammering on Obozo and not sucking up to him, except that Rove is part of the Republicrat establishment that needs to destroy America to rebuild it “the right way” (without all that free citizen nonsense).


23 posted on 04/08/2011 2:17:15 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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Rove warns Republicans: “It seems I’ve misplaced my spine”


26 posted on 04/08/2011 2:19:01 PM PDT by prairiebreeze ("We need to be in it to win it, and if there's doubt we need to get out". -- Palin on Libya.)
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