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Military Already Told of Less Pay
Vanity | 10/8/2011 | Self

Posted on 04/08/2011 6:45:43 PM PDT by sr4402

My son called and said he was not going to be paid. He is a Sergent in the Air force, a Veteran, currently on base.

I heard of another Soldier who said that he was getting half pay.

Obamma is not making those serving abroad nor those at home very happy.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: shutdown
Obamma OWNS the Shutdown. He has alredy given the order for no or lowered pay. He said he would Veto (any) Continuing Resolution. Obamma and the Democrats Really Own this one.
1 posted on 04/08/2011 6:45:50 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

Where is Fearless leader anyway?


2 posted on 04/08/2011 6:50:49 PM PDT by mountainlion (America land of the free because of the Brave.)
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To: mountainlion

Where is Fearless leader anyway?


He’s probably on that big United States Air Force plane called Air Force One. Sorry bastard.


3 posted on 04/08/2011 6:52:46 PM PDT by unkus
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To: sr4402

The deal right now is that the military will get paid on the 15th, for all pay earned through today. But we will not get pay for the upcoming week, even though we will still have to show up for work.

This is because Democrats think that funding Planned Parenthood abortion mills is more important than the constitutional mandate to defend the country.

There are no words to explain how I feel about their priorities. But I’m thinking that we should bring back the old custom of tar and feathers...


4 posted on 04/08/2011 6:53:42 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: sr4402

You can bet your ass they won’t be cutting any from ‘Food Stamps’.....


5 posted on 04/08/2011 6:55:31 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: sr4402

I feel sorry for your son. This is beyond nuts that we have a kenyan klown for a p-Resident. So what will your son and his fellow soldiers do, if I may ask?


6 posted on 04/08/2011 6:57:49 PM PDT by max americana ( NF)
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To: exDemMom

The dims abhor the military and it’s entire culture.

The abortion industry is probably working as a money laundring operation for the dim politicians. Like the unions. Only makes sense as to why dims fight like hell to protect “planned parenthood”. Look at who the dims defend and you will see their funding.


7 posted on 04/08/2011 7:01:02 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Texas resident

YUP....see here...http://www.ixquick.com/do/metasearch.pl


8 posted on 04/08/2011 7:03:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Unlike the West, the Islamic world is serious.)
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To: sr4402

Soldiers vote (unless the Dems ‘lose’ their absentee ballots). And they have family and friends who vote as well. Everyone WILL remember this next year.


9 posted on 04/08/2011 7:09:45 PM PDT by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: mountainlion
Where is the Fearless Feckless leader anyway?

He's loading up the jet for his next vacation at colonial Williamsburg

10 posted on 04/08/2011 7:12:49 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: sr4402

I have very unhappy sons after notifications today. Seriously when are we going to start making Obama drive a clown car instead of using Army 1? He shouldn’t treat our troops as like a joke and still expect a ride.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 7:13:34 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: sr4402; SkyPilot; ExSoldier; Doogle; Foolsgold; freekitty; flat; unkus; Nachum; Free ThinkerNY; ...

On the Armstrong and Getty talk show this a.m., the wife of a soldier in Afganistan called in and said her husband told her his pay had already been cut. He also told her that the troops are angry! The RATs will bear the results of that anger in November 2012.


12 posted on 04/08/2011 7:15:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: sr4402

yah...our Daughter is at Fort Hood where her new husband is getting ready to deploy to Iraq in a couple of weeks, and she is shitting kittens about how she is going to pay her bills next week. The Missus and I are prepared to help out, and for now we’re trying to keep her calmed down.

What really sucks about this is that DFAS put up the pay cuts on the online Leave and Earnings Statements today with a debit for half of everyone’s pay. No prior word. No heads up to anyone’s CO.

Payday isn’t until the 15th, and I think we can keep our daughter from panicing until then, but after that who knows...

Inexcusable.


13 posted on 04/08/2011 7:17:07 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

That is if their votes are counted.


14 posted on 04/08/2011 7:22:36 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: sr4402

Less pay more gay. Good job Obama. /s


15 posted on 04/08/2011 7:22:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: sr4402
The House GOP plan is the following:

1. Fund the DoD and pay Military salaries for the next 6 months -- until the end of Fiscal 2011 in September.

2. Provide Stop-Gap funding for one week only. Then the Government is shutdown.

3. Keep the GOP House Riders. These are important.

If the GOP sticks to its guns, it means deep cuts will happen.

The Democrats have used scare tactics in the past.

Regardless of if the Government is shutdown or not, military will earn salaray, but after two weeks cannot be paid, if there is a shutdown, and the Democrats and the President throw the House GOP plan.

Basically, the House GOP plan uses DoD (Dept of Defense) spending levels at Previously agreed upon levels...

16 posted on 04/08/2011 7:30:10 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: sr4402

How about if they don’t pay the pilots for Air Force One? How about if they cut off the fuel for Obama’s private 747? He could sit at home and forgo the vacation like everyone else.


17 posted on 04/08/2011 7:30:10 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: sr4402
Military votes don't count anyway. This is why Obama and the Democrats don't really shiv a git about the military pay. Any disgruntled military votes won't see the light of day when the election is held.
18 posted on 04/08/2011 7:31:15 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ExTexasRedhead
When the government was shut down in 1995, military personnel continued to report to work and were paid, but the planning guidance sent to the services and defense agencies says a shutdown this time will be different. “All military personnel will continue in normal duty status regardless of their affiliation with exempt or non-exempt activities,” says the draft planning guidance that was prepared for the services and defense agencies. “Military personnel will serve without pay until such time as Congress makes appropriated funds available to compensate them for this period of service.” During the 1995 shutdown, the Clinton Administration followed the OMB guidance issued during the Reagan Administration. The Obama Administration, it seems, is tacking a different direction. Let me be clear, the guidelines proposing to hold military paychecks are, according to the news reports, draft guidelines. It is possible the Obama Administration has abandoned these punitive guidelines. And, even if they implemented these guidelines, military personnel would most likely eventually receive their pay, once a budget agreement is reached. But, why even change the policy and subject our military to partisan political battles. The policy is certainly a change, but it doesn’t provide much hope. Hopefully, they will clear this up quickly.
19 posted on 04/08/2011 7:32:26 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: sr4402
There are no pay cuts for the Military.

And the House GOP plan allows the Government to be shutdown, but Military Salaries to be paid for the next 6 months -- in full.

The Democrats love to use scare tactics. Apparently, the Democratic propaganda machine is clearly at work right now.

20 posted on 04/08/2011 7:33:01 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: YankeeReb; mountainlion
This is all about the zero man (0bama) playing golf...

If it affects his tee time, he might be upset...

Maybe golf and killing babies is all 0bama cares about...

21 posted on 04/08/2011 7:39:59 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: mountainlion

He is due for a vacation.


22 posted on 04/08/2011 7:50:13 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Bean Counter
If Congress defunds the military, by NOT enacting a budget during a time when combat operations are ongoing...they are effectively declaring that the DOD must cease and desist all offensive military operations.

I am not certain how the DOD, acting under the legal jurisdiction of the UCMJ, will respond to this unprecedented crisis created by the inaction of Congress.

What does the JCS of the DOD do now?

23 posted on 04/08/2011 7:50:24 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: OldDeckHand

Ping for your opinion.


24 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:36 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Big Horn

Scotland in May


25 posted on 04/08/2011 7:58:05 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Bean Counter

“yah...our Daughter is at Fort Hood where her new husband is getting ready to deploy to Iraq in a couple of weeks, and she is shitting kittens about how she is going to pay her bills next week. The Missus and I are prepared to help out, and for now we’re trying to keep her calmed down.”

Yep I can confirm as well. Just talked to two guys I know at Fort Hood and they confirm on their intranet, where they can see their direct deposit info, their upcoming pay is down to 200 bucks for this month. Normally around 1100. One guy is married and ahs three kids. Thankfully he is not deployed right now. They have also been told they will be running the px and all other services on post as all civilian and contract labor will be shut down.


26 posted on 04/08/2011 8:00:12 PM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Bean Counter

Prayers lifted for your daughter and her husband. We are in the same boat: our youngest son is enlisted in the Air Force, newly married, and our oldest is now considered “non-essential” (he is an electrical engineer who works on the designs for the new jets). Of course we will help both of them, as long as we can. We are all angry. We will all remember this when elections roll around.


27 posted on 04/08/2011 8:07:37 PM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: Bean Counter
Yes, my son moves to Minot this Tuesday. I'm wondering where he will get the money with gas prices so high.

Thank God he is coming home to Georgia first. He can stay here for as long as the Democrats want him unpaid.

28 posted on 04/08/2011 8:15:51 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: max americana
He has enough money to make it home here in Georgia. He is scheduled to change bases this Tuesday and it is a long way to North Dakota in his truck.

He is more than welcome to stay here while Obama and the Democrats do not want to pay him.

29 posted on 04/08/2011 8:18:03 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

Soros’ Secretaries of State will make sure their votes don’t count.


30 posted on 04/08/2011 9:03:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: sr4402
IMO, for a President, the CIC of the U.S.Military, to engage in an action such as this during a time of war is a treasonous act.
Such an act as this directly undermines the military morale. This is a direct aid to the enemies they are fighting.
31 posted on 04/08/2011 9:55:13 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: sr4402
My son called and said he was not going to be paid. He is a Sergent in the Air force, a Veteran, currently on base.

I heard of another Soldier who said that he was getting half pay.

The current political leadership has made a drastic choice. With the imposition of self destructive Rules of Engagement, the comments by members of the Obama administration that a visit to a military base was entering enemy territory, it is clear that Obama is pushing for a nasty form of change in America's Order of Battle.

If the USA were a Third Wold banana republic, not paying the military could set the scene that, with other disconcerting disequilibrating factors, open the possibility to a coup d'etat in the fullness of time. Fortunately, many Americans feel their country is outside world history.

One problem with that feeling is the risk of truly ending up outside of world history. Obama and company are playing for the highest stakes while treating the current American population as expendable.


32 posted on 04/08/2011 11:02:34 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: sarasmom
Certainly, it's all moot now. There was some confusion because reservists/guardsman on active duty get two LES statements each month, and some of those LES statements were reflecting what would have been paid, had the shutdown not been averted. And, even those LES statements weren't necessarily accurate.
33 posted on 04/09/2011 11:38:26 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: sr4402
You need to spread the word that the Democrats and the President were going to cut off the pay for the Military.

As I posted before, the GOP-lead House had passed a measure that kept the Government operating for one week (7 days), but funded military salaries through the end of FY2011 (September).

Obama would have made the troops fight in three wars (plus the recent Libya conflict), and not pay them.

I consider him to be truly evil.

There is a story, from the book Unlimited Access, about the Clinton Administration that Chelsea Clinton, then about 12, was playing with her friends.

She pointed at her secret service detail, and called them her "Personally trained pigs". The Senior Officer on the detail stayed after the other children left and spoke to Chelsea saying that she should not have said that about them.

Chelsea responded: "But that is how my parents refers to the Secret Service."

Please vote, and get members of the military to vote. And spread the word that it was Democrats and Obama responsible for trying to cut off pay to the military.

The Democrats love to scare people: senior citizens, etc.

I am getting a little feed up with this nonsense.

Keep the Faith!

34 posted on 04/09/2011 6:11:14 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: OldDeckHand

It is not “moot” to me.
I am a USAF veteran.
Every active duty service member’s life is very important to me.


35 posted on 04/09/2011 8:40:49 PM PDT by sarasmom
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