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The Prosecution Rests, but I Can’t
New York Times ^ | April 9th, 2011 | John Thompson

Posted on 04/10/2011 9:24:30 AM PDT by KantianBurke

I SPENT 18 years in prison for robbery and murder, 14 of them on death row. I’ve been free since 2003, exonerated after evidence covered up by prosecutors surfaced just weeks before my execution date. Those prosecutors were never punished. Last month, the Supreme Court decided 5-4 to overturn a case I’d won against them and the district attorney who oversaw my case, ruling that they were not liable for the failure to turn over that evidence — which included proof that blood at the robbery scene wasn’t mine.

Because of that, prosecutors are free to do the same thing to someone else today.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: crime; innocent
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Regardless of the constitutional issues of compensation which is what it seems his Supreme Court case focused on, prosecutors should not be above the law. If they lie under oath or falsify evidence, they need to do hard time as you or I would have to if we did the same.
1 posted on 04/10/2011 9:24:34 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: KantianBurke

That’s a simple restatement of the Niphong doctrine.


2 posted on 04/10/2011 9:26:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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And do full lenght of the sentence that they had convicted the innocent person of.
3 posted on 04/10/2011 9:28:19 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: KantianBurke

Abuse of power is one of the worst crimes that people can commit in a free society. Police and prosecutors who hide evidence because it might interfere with their case are guilty of a crime and deserve to be punished severely.

The goal of our judicial system should be justice, not convictions at all cost.


4 posted on 04/10/2011 9:35:39 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: KantianBurke
"If they lie under oath or falsify evidence, they need to do hard time as you or I would have to if we did the same. "

They would, or at least they could be if the state AG wanted to pursue that kind of case. But, that's not what this case is about. This is about immunity in civil court, not criminal court.

Prosecutors, if they suborn perjury or obstruct justice through the destruction or hiding of evidence, can be - and have been - prosecuted and even jailed. At a minimum, they'll lose their license to practice law.

This particular case, however, had a slightly different set of facts and matters of law that are being portrayed in this story. Simply, the Court was asked to decide -

Can a prosecutor's office be held liable for the illegal conduct of one of its prosecutors, on the theory that the office failed to adequately train its employees, when there has been only one violation resulting from that deficient training?

And, the Court said "no".

No. A divided Supreme Court held that a prosecutor's office could not be held liable for the illegal conduct of one of its prosecutors when there has been only one violation resulting from that deficient training. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the majority opinion for the court. In a dissent read from the bench, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, joined by Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, argued that the "what happened here, the Court's opinion obscures, was no momentary oversight, no single incident of a lone officer's misconduct." Instead, Ginsburg contended, evidence "established persistent, deliberately indifferent conduct for which the District Attorney's Office bears responsibility under §1983."

I think the Court got this particular case right.

5 posted on 04/10/2011 9:38:10 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: KantianBurke

Malpractice was present if intent wasn’t ....

I have bad thoughts on what I would do to anyone that did such to me intentionally or not. Time can’t be recovered....

Prime excuse for don’t get mad just get even.

Btw...was this a civil or criminal case against the prosecutors etc ?

Stay Safe....


6 posted on 04/10/2011 9:39:46 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: troy McClure

Under the Law of Moses, those who conspired to convict an innocent person were punished as he would have been if found guilty.

Decent deterrent, considering the large number of capital crimes under the Law.


7 posted on 04/10/2011 9:40:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: KantianBurke

No one in government can be held liable. That why it attracts so many low lifes.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 9:40:31 AM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: KantianBurke

The movie “Conviction”.

Prosecutors and police who pull this crap should do no less time than the people they railroad.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 9:41:27 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: OldDeckHand

“They would, or at least they could be if the state AG wanted to pursue that kind of case. But, that’s not what this case is about.”

I agree. My comments was geared towards prosecuting those that lie under oath or hide evidence.


10 posted on 04/10/2011 9:41:48 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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To: KantianBurke
Many district attorneys are part of the democrat machine politics..
Especially in the northeast.. and midwest.. and left coast..

Being ignorant of the democrat machine politics can scew you're idea of "justice"..
And the democrats "RAN" the south for many decades..
America would be a better place without the democrat party..
IF the republican party is not "cleaned UP" the same is true of them..

Washington D.C. and the federal government generally is a barrel of spoiled apples..
Cleaning it up will/would take herculean effort by the TpCaucus.. "IF" can be done at all..

11 posted on 04/10/2011 9:42:40 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Baynative

They hold the power and use it to defend one another.


12 posted on 04/10/2011 9:51:51 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: KantianBurke

Keep fighting.

Oh Heavenly Father, why do you allow people to go through such torment? Please understand that Your time and human time are so very different and speed things up. I know of so many undeserving who are being tormented right now. How would it hurt if their times of torment were straightened out a lot sooner? Heavenly Father hear our prayer. It is asked in the Name of Your Son Jesus Christ.


13 posted on 04/10/2011 9:56:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: KantianBurke
But once it became clear how many people had been involved, he called it off.

Exactly why we still have an illegal usurper in office.

14 posted on 04/10/2011 9:58:57 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: KantianBurke

Horrifying the power the state has and how they exercise it.


15 posted on 04/10/2011 9:59:35 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: KantianBurke

Is anyone else in favor of a MANDATORY sentence of decades (not years) for any individual that takes an oath of office such as law enforcement, judges, prosecutors, elected officials, etc that are found guilty of corruption or misusing their position.

The sentence needs to be 1 offense and mandatory because judges and officials tend to take special care of their own. That’s not to say they wouldn’t cover-up the prosecution, but they’d be placing themselves at big risk.

The citizens also need a way around the current system that demands that we depend upon lawmakers to make all laws. We need a referendum capability that can be initiated by the people and passed by the people without requiring approval of the political institution.

Just a thought.


16 posted on 04/10/2011 10:13:18 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Conservatism is about putting the USA first, not international bankers and corporations)
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To: bigheadfred

Conviction was a good movie.
As a defense attorney it chills me to the bone when I get an innocent client. I lay awake at night thinking about those cases.
Sadly I’m getting to where I would just rather have all guilty clients.


17 posted on 04/10/2011 10:20:33 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: apoliticalone

True, there are no police for the police, no prosecutors for prosecutors, no judges for judges. The fourth estate used to exert some checks on abuse by the protected power class, but no more.


18 posted on 04/10/2011 10:28:13 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: KantianBurke
Because of that, prosecutors are free to do the same thing to someone else today.

I'm corn-fused??????
To wit:

'Color of Law' (1)
An action done under the Color Of Law is one done with the apparent authority of law, but actually in contravention of law.

A federal cause of action may be maintained against a State Officer who under "color of law" deprives a person of their civil rights. [42 U.S.C. § 1983]

Now it seems pretty clear that Mr Thompson's Civil Rights were violated. The only thing is that he has to get Eric Holder and his DOJ to go after the Rogue Prosecutor. Which to me would appear to be a no brainer ...uh ...wait?

What color is Mr Thompson?
[Not Sarcasm!]

(1) 'Law Dictionary' Fourth Edition, by Steven H. Gifis
Associate Professor of Law, Rutgers Univ.
© Barron's 1996

19 posted on 04/10/2011 10:29:42 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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To: KantianBurke
Regardless of the constitutional issues of compensation which is what it seems his Supreme Court case focused on, prosecutors should not be above the law. If they lie under oath or falsify evidence, they need to do hard time as you or I would have to if we did the same.

I disagree with you on this. We grant prosecutors and the police the power over individual life and liberty, and as such, I believe that they should actually be held to a higher standard of behavior and performance. When they purposely withhold or falsify evidence, the criminal punishment should be substantially greater than what a "civilian" would receive in a similar situation.

I am of the belief that in a case like this, those involved in the cover up should be found guilty of both the crime they committed AND have the sentence increased by whatever sentence was imposed on the falsely imprisoned man. And had the falsely imprisoned man be put to death, the same should follow for those involved with the cover up.

Mark

20 posted on 04/10/2011 10:30:48 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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