Posted on 04/10/2011 9:55:29 PM PDT by Clairity
Pox, I’m hearing you too. If participation at this website isn’t enough to to educate people as to the hard cold facts of political reality, then I’m afraid there’s no hope.
Donald Trump is doing an invaluable service for our country, but he does NOT have the conservative credentials required to be our next Commander in Chief.
Yes, if it came down to Trump versus Obama in the general, I’d have to give Trump my vote - but we’re not there yet. We still have time to promote the best, most qualified (and electable) conservative to the front of the pack for 2012.
I sincerely hope that we’re not seeing the beginnings of a split in the conservative vote on this very site.
Interesting comment. I am sure that most FReepers will not be shocked at anything that is being dug up. Chances are we have discussed what ever it is hundreds of times.
Here’s my take, FWIW.
Somebody, probably somebody in the Democratic Party (because Trump has lots of connections there), somebody who knows something, somebody who for whatever reason doesn’t like the Kenyan, spilled the beans to the Donald and told him that if he wants to be the next president, to go after Hussein on this issue.
Because if Trump brings down Hussein, he will be the next president. The Republican Party (for failing to ask questions) will be nearly as disgraced as the Democrats. As an outsider who exposed the greatest electoral fraud in US history, Trump would waltz into the WH.
Trump said that in his interview with Meredith Viera. Now he's questioning Barry's NBC status. Pretty tantalizing, eh?
My toes are tingling with this stuff.
I heard Trump the other day (think it was on Cavuto’s show) say something to the effect that when he makes his announcement (regarding running as President) people are going to be really shocked. He didn’t mean that they would be shocked by him running but by something else related to it. I wonder if he is going to run as a Democrat?!
“If he did find out that Obama is a fraud, he would (or will) go down in American history as the man who saved the US from this fraud. the chance to go down in history is too irresistable to Trump, given his ego. It’s not money he wants, but the glory of going down in history and becoming a major figure of history. Instead of getting people to buy his autobiography, it would become required reading in schools all around the nation.”
Bingo. You get the prize. Dead on. Well put.
Trump is brilliant
He’s calling out the liberal press to prove him wrong HA!! freaking brilliant!
(meaning he’s forcing them to do the job they should have done 6 years ago back in Chicago)
rooks, knights wiped out.
Check, three moves left
your move, NYT
“I heard Trump the other day (think it was on Cavuto’s show) say something to the effect that when he makes his announcement (regarding running as President) people are going to be really shocked. He didn’t mean that they would be shocked by him running but by something else related to it. I wonder if he is going to run as a Democrat?!”
Oh yeah, that would give him a great base to run on (maximum sarcasm). Here he is trying mightily to bring down their Prez Obama, and he’s going to run as a Dem? Not in your wildest dreams.
you didn’t...
NOT TRUE. Read the transcript, listen to the recording. She said she was at Obama’s birth in Kenya.Someone kept interjecting Hawaii trying to get her to go along with the lie. She didn't appear to understand that she was letting a very big cat out of the bag, she was just telling the truth.
“He claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama’s birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law, but Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Medical Center has published a letter from Obama calling it “the place of my birth,” thus publicly confirming it as his birthplace.”
This is HALF true. This letter does exist, only the Whitehouse will not confirm it as authentic. Also the hospital scrubbed it from their website and also won't talk about it. A letter they are trying to pretend doesn't exist you are using as evidence. Besides Obama “telling us he was born in Hawaii isn't PROOF. He is a liar, why would I believe him?
“He insists that the official “Certification of Live Birth” that Obama produced in 2008 is “not a birth certificate.” That’s wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses “birth certificate” as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.”
They are trying to say an orange is an apple. They are spelled differently. There is no “O” in apple and there is no “N” in certificate. They contain different information. And then there is the LONG FORM original birth certificate that has the most info and signatures by witnesses.
The U.S. Department of State does not issue Hawaiian birth certificates, so why do we care what they say? They have NOTHING to do with it.
“He claims that there’s no signature or certification number on the document released by Obama. Wrong again. Photos of the document, which we posted in 2008, clearly show those details.”
Please point out to me which signatures on the alleged Obama documents are the doctors and witnesses to the birth.
“He says newspaper announcements of Obama’s birth that appeared in Hawaii newspapers in 1961 “probably” were placed there fraudulently by his now-deceased American grandparents. Actually, a state health department official and a former managing editor of one of the newspapers said the information came straight from the state health department.”
Half true. This newspaper thing, as proof, is the biggest bunch of crap I ever heard. A recent report explains this exactly. The health department does forward very basic info to the newspaper who prints it without doing any checking of any kind. The “Health Department” has many parts. The path to the newspaper for the two hospitals is the same. Obama’s announcement did not come from either of these hospitals. It came from a clinic located in close proximity to grandma's house.
“He claims “nobody knew” Obama when he was growing up and “nobody ever comes forward” who knew him as a child. “If I ever decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten,” Trump said. Well, two retired kindergarten teachers in a 2009 news story fondly recall teaching a young Barack Obama.”
These people are too cute by half. Trump didn't say that no one remembered Obama from kindergarten. He said everyone remembered Trump from kindergarten. No one remembers Obama “growing up”. Records from Columbia U show Obama only there for 9 months not 2 years. President of Harvard law review that never published ANYTHING. Where are his grades? His papers? Where are all the people and teachers (other than kindergarten)who knew Obama?
“The evidence that Obama was born in the U.S.A. is so overwhelming that we haven’t had much to say lately about the sort of bogus claims that Trump repeats.”
LOL, UNDERwhelming. In fact there isn't ANY. A photoshopped, forged COLB isn't proof. Trumps claims are NOT bogus, this article is.
“Hawaii’s top official in charge of vital records stated long ago, for example, that the confidential records underlying Obama’s official birth certificate show that he was born in Hawaii and is “a natural born American citizen.”
We should just take this democrat's word for it. “Records” what records? Show us, we don't believe you. It isn't up to Fuckino to declare whether BHO is a “Natural Born Citizen” or not. We can only know this when we see PROOF that he was born on U.S. soil and proof that both his parents were U.S. citizens at the time of Obama’s birth. If he can't do that he isn't our president.
I mean the job he applied for and got is only the presidency of the United States. Why bother to demand proof for such an unimportant job? I mean it's only a constitutional requirement. I mean it's only a special type of citizenship that only applies to the presidency. It's of such minute importance, that we should take factheck.org’s, politifact.com’s, and Business Insider's word for it.
More likely, Trump isn't trying mightily to bring down Prez Obama so he can run as a Dem, it's so Hillary can run as a Dem.
Trump was a vocal Hillary supporter in 2008 and is only recently come to the conservative side (wink, wink).
I’m just speculating. Assuming he reveals ironclad, devastating proof against Obama, and then runs on a ticket with Hillary? That may get him a lot of the Dem vote who felt ripped off by Obama in the primaries, plus the moderate Dems, independents and perhaps Republicans who are just happy he took Obama down. Just pure speculation but I really wondered at his statement that “people are going to be really surprised.”
“More likely, Trump isn’t trying mightily to bring down Prez Obama so he can run as a Dem, it’s so Hillary can run as a Dem.”
I don’t believe for one minute in these conspiracy theories about Trump blazing a path for Hillary to run. Trump’s ego doesn’t allow for his aiding anyone other than himself. And it is that same ego that is pushing him to expose Obama as the Manchurian president he is. Trump knows he is invulnerable to MSM going after him, and he knows if he exposes this faux Prez he will go down in history as having outed the greatest fraud in our times. I’m sick of all of these Trump is somehow aiding Hillary for a run I don’t believe for one second she is intending to make. Hillary is finished with her gov’t career. Next for her is globe trotting like her husband, giving speeches, joining causes, and making millions without all of the work required by holding yet another gov’t job. She’s made plenty of friends now all over the world by virtue of being Sec. of State, and will be perhaps even better positioned to lead the life her husband currently leads going all over the world and living the life of Riley.
That may get him a lot of the Dem vote who felt ripped off by Obama in the primaries, plus the moderate Dems, independents and perhaps Republicans who are just happy he took Obama down. Just pure speculation but I really wondered at his statement that “people are going to be really surprised.”
Because when Trump first announced his possible run for the office of POTUS, he stated he would be running as a Republican. You must have missed that. He himself stated he was a Republican and would be running as a Republican. That really ought to settle the matter. Out of the horses mouth, one might say.
born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Married January 1936. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.
I did hear him say he was a Republican. Just wondering what other “surprises” he has up his sleeve with regard to his announcement - maybe an interesting running mate.
It would be hilarious to see the left’s heads explode if he did decide to run as a Dem.
If Trump had the evidence right now, he would be conducting himself exactly the way he is doing, right now. If you have the proof let the opposition hang itself with lies.
He either has the proof or is playing one hell of a game of poker!
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