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There is a college in Manhattan that is now a former Catholic College for inviting Hillary to speak there...

I guess Donald will try to split the Democrats and Republicans to get a Democrat elected (ala Ross Perot).

1 posted on 04/12/2011 9:54:22 AM PDT by topher
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Donald as a Hillary fan 4 years ago:

From the article:

However, as late as 2007, Trump endorsed top pro-abortion personality Hillary Clinton as well as pro-abortion former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani for the Democrat and Republican 2008 presidential tickets, saying that they “both would do a good job.”

2 posted on 04/12/2011 9:56:08 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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He claims a lot of things, I still can’t trust him.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 10:00:09 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (It's not so much where, but to whom.)
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Trump will say anything in his pandering to conservatives. Trump announced his conversion on abortion at CPAC in February of 2011. That was two months ago. Came at the same time Trump said he might run for potus. The truth is, Trump remains a lifelong liberal who is pro-abortion, supports gun control, universal health care and favors hate crime laws for homos.

If anyone wants to understand the real Donald Trump, read his book, “The America We Deserve”.

4 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:01 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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I guess Donald will try to split the Democrats and Republicans to get a Democrat elected (ala Ross Perot).

that's beginning to look like the plan.

He's said that if he doesn't get the republican nomination, he'll consider running Independent.

He's been a predominantly Democrat funder/supporter, was for Hill, etc. Bubba won without a majority because Perot (who ended up with massive gov't loans for his business - pay off for a job well done?) - split the ticket.

So this is looking like a Perot-redeaux. It worked for the Clintons once. Unfortunately, Americans would fall for it again.

We need to be VERY sure we run a candidate that can overcome the split.

5 posted on 04/12/2011 10:09:32 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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If we Pro-Life voters cannot see that the way to attack the free usage of abortion as birth control, is to shrink the govt back to its Constitutional size, that there are too many big govt “conservatives” in the movement. We must be willing acknowledge that the goal is control of this big govt so you can rule from the National level. By doing that we have ceded the argument to the Progressive/Liberal/Democrat left. We don’t mind the big govt, we just want to argue over what view drives the machine. Pro-lifers don’t need to abandon the goal, we just need to work on shrinking the size and reach of the central govt. Once that is done, the fight would move to local and state levels. That is a much harder thing to do. We would have to accept that California has abortions, but maybe Utah or Texas don’t. You see, the enemy is not the policy, but the very ability of what used to be seen as a “foreign govt” (FED) to mandate state decisions, and spending.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 10:13:02 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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"And you know here’s a baby that wasn’t going to be let into life,” he said. “And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life.” "

Being swayed by an emotional story is not a sufficient foundation. There appears to be no underlying core values or logic that drove his decision. That's bothersome.

7 posted on 04/12/2011 10:13:34 AM PDT by DannyTN
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YES... TRUMP IS ANOTHER PEROT.

LET’S NOT FALL FOR IT THIS TIME!


8 posted on 04/12/2011 10:20:11 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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One thing about me, I’m a very honorable guy, okay?

Oh, are ya now? Let's ask Vera Coking for her reaction.

10 posted on 04/12/2011 10:45:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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Chris Christie, a GOP cult favorite for 2012 despite repeatedly stating he wouldn’t run, gently dismissed Trump’s campaign as being of a piece with his publicity-hungry personality.

I am fervently hoping that's ALL it is.

11 posted on 04/12/2011 10:47:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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I can relate to Trump’s position.

Until 6 years ago I didn’t have a position one way or the other.

That was until I saw a book about babies in the womb, which were captured using a fiber optic camera.

That day and in that moment I instantly knew I had to have a position that a fetus is alive and a baby.

I never refer to a baby as a fetus anymore. That is a scientific term but does not adequately describe the life living within a woman.

Besides, If it’s not a baby...You ain’t pregnant.

I am now pro life and pro baby, unambiguously.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 11:02:51 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

14 posted on 04/12/2011 11:07:08 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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I heard part of a Trump interview this morning....he’s pro-life, he’s anti-gay marriage, Obama is a terrible president....I’m afraid he’s playing conservatives like a harp and many, many are falling for it lock, stock and barrel.

His “birther” stuff is amusing but I don’t trust him any farther than I could throw Rosie O’Donnell.


16 posted on 04/12/2011 11:18:48 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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I think I've seen enough now to say that Trump is running a scam that IS NOT intended to benefit conservatives or Republicans.
17 posted on 04/12/2011 11:24:49 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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If Obama was pro-life running against a pro-choice opponent, and all other things the same as Obama today...I would have to vote for the pro-choice opponent.
24 posted on 04/12/2011 9:42:33 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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